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Penalty in College ball
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Penalty in College ball
I'm old - help me out - a friend asked me yesterday if college football still has the RUNNING Into The Kicker 5 yard penalty? - I can't remember - thanks
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Re: Penalty in College ball
Yes running into the kicker is still around. Although the hit against the UNCC punter on Saturday wasn't that vicious, I believe it was called roughing since the punter had not landed and re-established position (kicking leg was still off the ground during contact) leaving him defenseless.
Watching some of the MU v EKU highlights, some of the Herd OL have a tendency to get downfield, past the 3 yard buffer, on passing plays, specifically the RPO's. Something to watch for this Saturday and hopefully something Clark asks the officials to keep an eye on prior to kickoff.
Watching some of the MU v EKU highlights, some of the Herd OL have a tendency to get downfield, past the 3 yard buffer, on passing plays, specifically the RPO's. Something to watch for this Saturday and hopefully something Clark asks the officials to keep an eye on prior to kickoff.
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Re: Penalty in College ball
I wish I could disagree but I have to agree that this was a valid roughly the kicker call.moonshine wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:15 amYes running into the kicker is still around. Although the hit against the UNCC punter on Saturday wasn't that vicious, I believe it was called roughing since the punter had not landed and re-established position (kicking leg was still off the ground during contact) leaving him defenseless.
Watching some of the MU v EKU highlights, some of the Herd OL have a tendency to get downfield, past the 3 yard buffer, on passing plays, specifically the RPO's. Something to watch for this Saturday and hopefully something Clark asks the officials to keep an eye on prior to kickoff.
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Yea at game speed, my initial reaction was running into the kicker because the contact was ticky-tack but when they showed the replay, the punter's leg was still not down leaving him vulnerable.
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Re: Penalty in College ball
Isn’t it a judgment call on the official running into vs personal foul? If so I believe this could have been called as running into the kicker .Yosef84 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:17 amI wish I could disagree but I have to agree that this was a valid roughly the kicker call.moonshine wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:15 amYes running into the kicker is still around. Although the hit against the UNCC punter on Saturday wasn't that vicious, I believe it was called roughing since the punter had not landed and re-established position (kicking leg was still off the ground during contact) leaving him defenseless.
Watching some of the MU v EKU highlights, some of the Herd OL have a tendency to get downfield, past the 3 yard buffer, on passing plays, specifically the RPO's. Something to watch for this Saturday and hopefully something Clark asks the officials to keep an eye on prior to kickoff.
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Thanks guys - yes, I agree that the one Sat was roughing - sometimes the college rules and pro rules run together in my overloaded mind -
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I' still miffed about the two no calls on hits on peoples...............
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I would agree if the punter had landed and both feet were back on the ground as there was not a lot of contact but the D/receiving team has to allow the punter room to land and re-establish to no longer be considered defenseless. .mountaineerman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:23 amIsn’t it a judgment call on the official running into vs personal foul? If so I believe this could have been called as running into the kicker .
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The one in the end zone was mind blowing that they didn't call it. Such a cheap shot, but what do you expect from them? Remember we are the classless ones and they are the noble victims....
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It’s a judgement call but this one wasn’t hard.mountaineerman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:23 amIsn’t it a judgment call on the official running into vs personal foul? If so I believe this could have been called as running into the kicker .Yosef84 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:17 amI wish I could disagree but I have to agree that this was a valid roughly the kicker call.moonshine wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:15 amYes running into the kicker is still around. Although the hit against the UNCC punter on Saturday wasn't that vicious, I believe it was called roughing since the punter had not landed and re-established position (kicking leg was still off the ground during contact) leaving him defenseless.
Watching some of the MU v EKU highlights, some of the Herd OL have a tendency to get downfield, past the 3 yard buffer, on passing plays, specifically the RPO's. Something to watch for this Saturday and hopefully something Clark asks the officials to keep an eye on prior to kickoff.
Hadn’t landed, defender was in the area where he was supposed to land. Sure the hit wasn’t massive, but that’s a textbook 15 yarder.
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Re: Penalty in College ball
Plus it looked like a blow to the head. My wife and I reran it a couple of times. No way that is a no call.
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Re: Penalty in College ball
I know offensive players are allowed to "push the pile". Is it legal for an OL player to "pull the pile" from behind or is that considered holding?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ37M6KUCXQ
Start around the 2:50 mark, #79 pulls on #53 from behind resulting in a TD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ37M6KUCXQ
Start around the 2:50 mark, #79 pulls on #53 from behind resulting in a TD.
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Push or pull one is
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Push or pull, one is applying a force. But there is this comment
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Re: Penalty in College ball
Appreciate the response but the example you provided has to do with pushing/pulling the ball carrier and not the defensive player. It seems to me that "pulling" on a defensive player, especially from behind, would be considered holding in this instance.
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I agree it would be holding or something. A few years ago I saw a clip of an NFL referee and his comment on the flag was that the player getting the penalty "was giving the business" to the other player. I took it to mean there was a fist flying in the pile of the tackle or an extra kick. Maybe pulling on a defensive player was the referee's view of "given the business."
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Ha - actually that was an ACC game and the penalty was on a DL who was "given the business" to a QB he had roughed -
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As for pushing and pulling - I believe it is now legal to push your RB from behind but a penalty for pulling your RB forward -
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Re: Penalty in College ball
To your knowledge, is it a penalty if the offensive player is pulling on a defender making the tackle, per the example above?
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