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To be fair, could probably say that about many schools as long as they have coaches who do a good job with recruiting. I think App, Louisiana, and Troy have stood out the most over time because they do the best job of mining for HS talent. I would have to think if you swapped our resources with what Texas Tech, WVU, Iowa State, etc have that we would do much better than they have done.APPdiesel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:16 amI've said it many times before...imagine every Sunbelt football program with an additional $37 million (Big12 TV payout) a year....now imagine every Big12 program if you took it away.
Money buys exposure, facilities, and coaching which attracts donors, corporate partnerships, and recruits.
He speaks the truth here.appdaze wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:07 pmSaw this on Twitter
Good conference recognition.
https://www.si.com/college/2020/10/26/s ... l-carolina
That would be a fascinating what-if. What would happen if you took the handful of "do more with less" G5 programs (App, Boise State, Louisiana, Marshall) and suddenly gave them a P5 payout for 1, 5, 10 years. Would we be able to maintain our culture or would we fall into the same traps?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:35 amTo be fair, could probably say that about many schools as long as they have coaches who do a good job with recruiting. I think App, Louisiana, and Troy have stood out the most over time because they do the best job of mining for HS talent. I would have to think if you swapped our resources with what Texas Tech, WVU, Iowa State, etc have that we would do much better than they have done.APPdiesel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:16 amI've said it many times before...imagine every Sunbelt football program with an additional $37 million (Big12 TV payout) a year....now imagine every Big12 program if you took it away.
Money buys exposure, facilities, and coaching which attracts donors, corporate partnerships, and recruits.
It would be interesting to see a 5-10 year swap with some schools and see if it changes fortunes for anyone.APPdiesel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:32 pmThat would be a fascinating what-if. What would happen if you took the handful of "do more with less" G5 programs (App, Boise State, Louisiana, Marshall) and suddenly gave them a P5 payout for 1, 5, 10 years. Would we be able to maintain our culture or would we fall into the same traps?AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:35 amTo be fair, could probably say that about many schools as long as they have coaches who do a good job with recruiting. I think App, Louisiana, and Troy have stood out the most over time because they do the best job of mining for HS talent. I would have to think if you swapped our resources with what Texas Tech, WVU, Iowa State, etc have that we would do much better than they have done.APPdiesel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:16 amI've said it many times before...imagine every Sunbelt football program with an additional $37 million (Big12 TV payout) a year....now imagine every Big12 program if you took it away.
Money buys exposure, facilities, and coaching which attracts donors, corporate partnerships, and recruits.
A G5 team is guaranteed a slot in a NY6 Bowl so the comments were about the SBC's chances. Agree with you that our league is in best shape ever but still no shot without a lot of help. Cincy, BYU, and Marshall all have the advantage and here is the schedule left for them to play.APP93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:09 pmI remember reading a lot of posts last year about how it would be tough for App or any other SB team to get serious consideration for the NY6 until the overall conference got better...well the future is now.
This is by far the toughest 5 game stretch App has seen since joining the SB and if they are to win the conference this year it will be well earned...should be fun.
My post was not to tout ours or any other SB teams chances of NY6 this year. As you correctly summarized, this year there are many more eligible teams with very strong resumes.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:29 pmA G5 team is guaranteed a slot in a NY6 Bowl so the comments were about the SBC's chances. Agree with you that our league is in best shape ever but still no shot without a lot of help. Cincy, BYU, and Marshall all have the advantage and here is the schedule left for them to play.APP93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:09 pmI remember reading a lot of posts last year about how it would be tough for App or any other SB team to get serious consideration for the NY6 until the overall conference got better...well the future is now.
This is by far the toughest 5 game stretch App has seen since joining the SB and if they are to win the conference this year it will be well earned...should be fun.
Marshall will always be ahead of us as long as they keep winning so we need them to take a loss. They don't have any tough games with their best opponent left being Charlotte.
BYU has faced the toughest part of their schedule with only UNA and SDSU remaining.
Cincy has also faced toughest part of their schedule but has solid games with Tulsa and UCF on schedule.
We have the toughest part of our schedule left so that helps us but odds are that Marshall and BYU win out and Cincy should be able to as well.
No doubt. I just did not want people thinking that the SBC controls its destiny. The performances of Cincy and BYU have put them in a league of their own among G5 schools so far.APP93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:00 pmMy post was not to tout ours or any other SB teams chances of NY6 this year. As you correctly summarized, this year there are many more eligible teams with very strong resumes.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:29 pmA G5 team is guaranteed a slot in a NY6 Bowl so the comments were about the SBC's chances. Agree with you that our league is in best shape ever but still no shot without a lot of help. Cincy, BYU, and Marshall all have the advantage and here is the schedule left for them to play.APP93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:09 pmI remember reading a lot of posts last year about how it would be tough for App or any other SB team to get serious consideration for the NY6 until the overall conference got better...well the future is now.
This is by far the toughest 5 game stretch App has seen since joining the SB and if they are to win the conference this year it will be well earned...should be fun.
Marshall will always be ahead of us as long as they keep winning so we need them to take a loss. They don't have any tough games with their best opponent left being Charlotte.
BYU has faced the toughest part of their schedule with only UNA and SDSU remaining.
Cincy has also faced toughest part of their schedule but has solid games with Tulsa and UCF on schedule.
We have the toughest part of our schedule left so that helps us but odds are that Marshall and BYU win out and Cincy should be able to as well.
My post was more about overall conference performance and quality this year. We all asked for it, now let's see if the team can meet the challenge. If App wins the conference this year it will ne after playing the toughest conference schedule we have seen yet.
SBC is definitely the best it has been. Middle of the road teams beating P5 teams while 2 teams are ranked is something we have not seen before.JMappfan5 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:45 pmBYU is not G5. NY6 honors a Conference Champ and BYU is an Independent. But Cincy controls their own destiny and they are truly the BEST G5 team as of this week. Tough to go undefeated in the AAC. Their game with UCF should be fun to watch.
I agree with App93, that this is our toughest road to a Sun Belt Championship. Hoping we can stay injury/Covid free!!!
