Decision Announcements

[AppStateNews]

Who was better? DBG or Stephon Brown?

Pure talent? Brown
Better player for the team? DBG

[AtlAppMan]

If DBG is as good as was expected then Missouri will pick him up from portal

[AppStateNews]

If DBG is as good as was expected then Missouri will pick him up from portal

Not going to happen. DBG is good, but has some things to get through. Him getting closer to home in California (or somewhere else with family) should help alleviate those.

His talent isn't the issue.

[BeauFoster]

If DBG is as good as was expected then Missouri will pick him up from portal

Not going to happen. DBG is good, but has some things to get through. Him getting closer to home in California (or somewhere else with family) should help alleviate those.

His talent isn't the issue.

I think he was being sarcastic

[Stonewall]

Where is Brown?

[AppSt94]

Where is Brown?

He was at TCU, but I think that he is back in the Portal.

[Stonewall]

Roger that , thanks.

[AppStFan1]

Where is Brown?

He was at TCU, but I think that he is back in the Portal.

He is definitely in the portal. I always thought that if he did not pan out at QB that he could be a tight end. I wonder if that is something TCU wanted him to do and that is why he left or his issues that got him booted from App are still getting him in trouble.

[AppStateNews]

Brown is now at University of central oklahoma.

[AtlAppMan]

If DBG is as good as was expected then Missouri will pick him up from portal

Not going to happen. DBG is good, but has some things to get through. Him getting closer to home in California (or somewhere else with family) should help alleviate those.

His talent isn't the issue.

I think he was being sarcastic

You are correct, I was being partially sarcastic.

However, when I say "good" I also mean the whole package, skills, character, have their personal issues under control, etc. We have seen student athletes in the past that have pure physical talent but don't have the mental toughness or drive, or get distracted/sidetracked for whatever reason and don't achieve their peak output. And in other cases, guys that may not have all the top physical talents do much more as they have mental toughness and drive. I always think of Larry Bird as one of those guys. He had size, but slower, etc. but he was really tough mentally and drove himself more than guys with much more physical abilities and became one of the best. BTW,These are guys App likes and seem to do well here.

[AppSt94]

I think that the issue with DBG is the lack of upside. Good kid, good teammate, but he had some mechanical flaws. Coaches look at kids and look for potential. Even when there are flaws in their game, the obvious determination is, can the flaws be corrected. Maybe Drink thought he could fix them, or maybe he didn’t care since he didn’t think that he would be staying in Boone long enough to worry about it. I prefer to side with the former. Maybe he peaked. Just my thoughts.

[hapapp]

Of course, we assume he won’t mature into a good QB somewhere else. He apparently wasn’t a fit here but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a fit elsewhere.

[EastHallApp]

Of course, we assume he won’t mature into a good QB somewhere else. He apparently wasn’t a fit here but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a fit elsewhere.

That could happen.

My personal sense, though, is that Brown was the one who had/has big-time talent and just has lacked the maturity or whatever. Whereas DBG just isn't very good.

[T-Dog]

Just curious if anyone knows how App St super seniors coming back compares to other P5 and G5. We had many players cone back that made significant contributions ( Sutton 2019). Are other teams getting as many starters or significant contributors as we are?

There's an ESPN+ article out today (if you have the ESPN+ subscription, you can view it) that goes over returning production.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/i ... ction-2021

App - 40th (8th in defense)

Louisiana - 1st (including almost all their defense)
Miami - 3rd (almost all their offense)
Coastal - 21st
Georgia State - 23rd
Texas State -35th (same percentage as App)
ECU - 48th
Georgia Southern - 119th
Marshall - 112th

[Saint3333]

GS and Marshall is somewhat surprising.

[SpeedkingATL]

Just curious if anyone knows how App St super seniors coming back compares to other P5 and G5. We had many players cone back that made significant contributions ( Sutton 2019). Are other teams getting as many starters or significant contributors as we are?

There's an ESPN+ article out today (if you have the ESPN+ subscription, you can view it) that goes over returning production.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/i ... ction-2021

App - 40th (8th in defense)

Louisiana - 1st (including almost all their defense)
Miami - 3rd (almost all their offense)
Coastal - 21st
Georgia State - 23rd
Texas State -35th (same percentage as App)
ECU - 48th
Georgia Southern - 119th
Marshall - 112th

Didn't UL lose both of their stud RB's Ragus and Mitchell?? That would appear a huge loss of production.

[Yosef84]

Who was better? DBG or Stephon Brown?

Pure talent? Brown
Better player for the team? DBG

Statistically at App, it appears that they are dead even!

[Yosef10]

Just curious if anyone knows how App St super seniors coming back compares to other P5 and G5. We had many players cone back that made significant contributions ( Sutton 2019). Are other teams getting as many starters or significant contributors as we are?

There's an ESPN+ article out today (if you have the ESPN+ subscription, you can view it) that goes over returning production.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/i ... ction-2021

App - 40th (8th in defense)

Louisiana - 1st (including almost all their defense)
Miami - 3rd (almost all their offense)
Coastal - 21st
Georgia State - 23rd
Texas State -35th (same percentage as App)
ECU - 48th
Georgia Southern - 119th
Marshall - 112th

Didn't UL lose both of their stud RB's Ragus and Mitchell?? That would appear a huge loss of production.

In the article he gives the weights for his formula, returning RB production is like 5% bc of how interchangeable the position can be - App is great evidence of that. Their 3rd guy was pretty decent, over 6 YPC. Louisiana is gonna be a tough out in 2021.

[hapapp]

Of course, we assume he won’t mature into a good QB somewhere else. He apparently wasn’t a fit here but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a fit elsewhere.

That could happen.

My personal sense, though, is that Brown was the one who had/has big-time talent and just has lacked the maturity or whatever. Whereas DBG just isn't very good.

I'll defer to you since you've apparently seen them both at practice.

[EastHallApp]

Of course, we assume he won’t mature into a good QB somewhere else. He apparently wasn’t a fit here but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a fit elsewhere.

That could happen.

My personal sense, though, is that Brown was the one who had/has big-time talent and just has lacked the maturity or whatever. Whereas DBG just isn't very good.

I'll defer to you since you've apparently seen them both at practice.

I have not. Just going off the reviews from those who have.