Can G5 really compete?

[bcoach]

https://brobible.com/sports/article/tex ... nil-money/

[appdaze]

25-30 million spent on recruiting by Texas a&m.

https://247sports.com/college/arkansas- ... 119439194/

In 2018 our reported athletics budget was 13.8 million. They spent double our budget just on football recruiting.


No. G5 cannot compete. Will G5 get those flash in the pan big years, yes, but long-term competitiveness is now completely out the window. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[t4pizza]

No, in fact most the P5 can't compete either. I know that in theory NIL is a good idea for the kids, they should be able to profit off their autographs, likeness, etc. The problem is that it is specifically NOT supposed to be pay for play and that is ALL it has become. When Quinn Ewers left his senior year in high school to sign with Ohio State, he became a millionaire despite not starting on the team. Hell, he only played a couple of garbage plays and then he transfers back to Texas where he receives more millions to become a Longhorn. Clearly, this kid did not have a market value since he wasn't even playing, he is not the type of kid that NIL was created. Of course the flip side of the argument is that if someone was willing to pay him, he must have a market value. This entire NIL is not good for the game and the powers that be (not sure there are really any) have to find a way to make sure that it is not used as pay for play. Although if I was a billionaire, you can bet I would pay whatever it took to win a Natty.

[bcoach]

The real truth it that this NIL situation is no surprise to anyone who wants to be honest. We knew exactly what would happen right from the beginning. It was never a good idea plain and simple. The powers to be only intended to make things legal.

[bigdaddyg]

Everyone will know how NIL shakes out in about 5 years. The 18 year old kids who got paid out of high school will have either pissed that money away (after the shock of taxes being deducted) on cars, clothes and jewelry or in an extremely rare situation will have banked it. We will see slimy situations where entire rosters get paid. That backup safety at Alabama will want his because the starting QB has a wad of cash. He will enter the Portal looking for a payday not a starting spot. Yep these poor kids making money for their schools and the NCAA deserve more. That scholarship isn’t enough and neither is the COA supplement.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

Everyone will know how NIL shakes out in about 5 years. The 18 year old kids who got paid out of high school will have either pissed that money away (after the shock of taxes being deducted) on cars, clothes and jewelry or in an extremely rare situation will have banked it. We will see slimy situations where entire rosters get paid. That backup safety at Alabama will want his because the starting QB has a wad of cash. He will enter the Portal looking for a payday not a starting spot. Yep these poor kids making money for their schools and the NCAA deserve more. That scholarship isn’t enough and neither is the COA supplement.

The opportunity is there so why not take advantage of it? If someone is willing to pay you to play a sport you love, and it's legal, why wouldn't you do it?

The NCAA created the portal fiasco, legislation created the NIL ordeal that now schools and boosters take advantage of, yet people like yourself find a way to finger point the athletes.

In your wild assumptions about what athletes will do with their money (Why you care in the first place is beyond me) you left out support their family, donate to a charity, start their own business. Those stories are out there now, you don't have to wait 5 years.

[appdaze]

I don't have a problem with workers using their skills to make money, negotiate contracts, move to better paying jobs, you know, the stuff everyone else is allowed to do. If your NIL more than covers your tuition and basic expenses like food then I would bet in the future that no scholarship will be given to those specific players. I've said for a long time, even here, that college sports will be paid minor leagues with teams that are associated with schools and players won't have to be students, just paid players. Academics are no longer the focus for many student athletes and those will lead the charge to first drop the number of classes players have to take in a semester to qualify, and then eventually they will ditch them all together. Its interesting because we are witnessing a market revolution of a sorts where the labor is rising up against the governing power to attain a more capitalistic style of market place for labor value.

[WVAPPeer]

The NIL has been a boost to many, especially the female athletes who can be paid for things such as soccer camps or softball camps - if you watched GameDay you saw where many used this avenue to raise money for charities or other very worthwhile positive endeavors - Some will get rich, most will be compensated at moderate levels - At least it is in theory "above board" - I remember hearing Eric Dickerson just a couple of years ago talking about his recruitment - U Texas booster offered him Oil Wells - can't imagine what SMU had to fork over???

[HighlandsApp]

The NIL should not be allowed for first year students. First year students and all athletes should get a cash stipend of something around $500 to $2000 per semester. If upperclassmen get NIL money over the cash stipend amount then they are ineligible for the stipend.

[bigdaddyg]

Everyone will know how NIL shakes out in about 5 years. The 18 year old kids who got paid out of high school will have either pissed that money away (after the shock of taxes being deducted) on cars, clothes and jewelry or in an extremely rare situation will have banked it. We will see slimy situations where entire rosters get paid. That backup safety at Alabama will want his because the starting QB has a wad of cash. He will enter the Portal looking for a payday not a starting spot. Yep these poor kids making money for their schools and the NCAA deserve more. That scholarship isn’t enough and neither is the COA supplement.

The opportunity is there so why not take advantage of it? If someone is willing to pay you to play a sport you love, and it's legal, why wouldn't you do it?

The NCAA created the portal fiasco, legislation created the NIL ordeal that now schools and boosters take advantage of, yet people like yourself find a way to finger point the athletes.

In your wild assumptions about what athletes will do with their money (Why you care in the first place is beyond me) you left out support their family, donate to a charity, start their own business. Those stories are out there now, you don't have to wait 5 years.

Whoa take it easy. Just my opinion and some observations. No need to get all bent out of shape. If a college athlete is in such dire straits beyond a scholarship he or she should be allowed to apply for and receive some sort of free grant money. If an athlete’s personal image or name is used I’m fine with he or she receiving some sort of financial reimbursement. I do think that extreme NIL deals really blurs the difference in amateur and paid professional athletes.

[bcoach]

It is hard to understand how someone can support this system and still expect that we will EVER be in the playoff. Just not going to happen.

[AppWyo]

The group of five can compete if they are allowed in the playoffs. Just like there is not much difference between the top and bottom of the FCS, Division II, Division III, and the NAIA. Expand the playoffs and the have and have nots will equalize. App would never have beaten Michigan had Michigan not been willing to play App. Everyone wants you to believe it is much more complicated than it is. Just like Ric Flair once said, "To be the man, you gotta beat the man." We gotta get to the dance first, but while we wait, we build the best machine to take down the "Big Boys" to become a "Big Boy". App is on the road of sustained greatness, because Appalachian is not about the here and now, App is about the future today.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

Everyone will know how NIL shakes out in about 5 years. The 18 year old kids who got paid out of high school will have either pissed that money away (after the shock of taxes being deducted) on cars, clothes and jewelry or in an extremely rare situation will have banked it. We will see slimy situations where entire rosters get paid. That backup safety at Alabama will want his because the starting QB has a wad of cash. He will enter the Portal looking for a payday not a starting spot. Yep these poor kids making money for their schools and the NCAA deserve more. That scholarship isn’t enough and neither is the COA supplement.

The opportunity is there so why not take advantage of it? If someone is willing to pay you to play a sport you love, and it's legal, why wouldn't you do it?

The NCAA created the portal fiasco, legislation created the NIL ordeal that now schools and boosters take advantage of, yet people like yourself find a way to finger point the athletes.

In your wild assumptions about what athletes will do with their money (Why you care in the first place is beyond me) you left out support their family, donate to a charity, start their own business. Those stories are out there now, you don't have to wait 5 years.

Whoa take it easy. Just my opinion and some observations. No need to get all bent out of shape. If a college athlete is in such dire straits beyond a scholarship he or she should be allowed to apply for and receive some sort of free grant money. If an athlete’s personal image or name is used I’m fine with he or she receiving some sort of financial reimbursement. I do think that extreme NIL deals really blurs the difference in amateur and paid professional athletes.

It's definitely always the big money that gets the story. I've reached out to a few NIL management companies to try and build a relationship to help me build my business (Financial Advisor) and hearing that most of the deals wouldn't be worthy time.

For the record as a fan I hate what CFB is becoming. I don't fault those making money, but it just doesn't have the same feel for me anymore. And truthfully the same teams winning the title, the media hype for only certain programs, my interest was slowly slipping before all of this mess.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

It is hard to understand how someone can support this system and still expect that we will EVER be in the playoff. Just not going to happen.

While I didn't see the whole NIL deals coming, I did say way back before we moved up that I felt the big schools would eventually break away and the G5 would become the new FCS. I'm slowly starting to think my assumption is going to become a reality.

[bigdaddyg]

It is hard to understand how someone can support this system and still expect that we will EVER be in the playoff. Just not going to happen.

While I didn't see the whole NIL deals coming, I did say way back before we moved up that I felt the big schools would eventually break away and the G5 would become the new FCS. I'm slowly starting to think my assumption is going to become a reality.

I tend to agree. I was one who offered up the G5’s (final 4 at least) playing for a G5 NC so to speak- not a real recognized tournament but sort of. That idea has been shot down for years because it would signal a divide and kind of relegate us to another FCS type level. Well isn’t that pretty much how it is? There is already a recognized division amongst the big boy schools so to speak. Even a crappy P5 is still considered superior to a great G5. If App played Kansas, Vanderbilt or Cal 10 times wouldn’t we generally be favored more than not in every game? Are we going to reach a point where our staff is in a bidding (not just recruiting) war with corporate sponsors to land an 18 year old QB?

[AppSt94]

If anything can be gleaned from the current CFP, it is that outside of three, maybe for teams, no one can actually compete for a title. The initial example of A&M’s recruiting budget should be enough proof to suggest this. They spend almost as much as our entire athletic department budget on recruiting and they have never been to the CFP.

[AppWyo]

Money does not always buy you winning, just look at the MLB. Texas A&M has it all to be one of the great college football programs with the culture, traditions, and everything except a national championship. When they get that then people will notice Texas A&M as a legitimate football power, but until they do they will almost be a legitimate football power.

[BambooRdApp]

Money does not always buy you winning, just look at the MLB. Texas A&M has it all to be one of the great college football programs with the culture, traditions, and everything except a national championship. When they get that then people will notice Texas A&M as a legitimate football power, but until they do they will almost be a legitimate football power.

As a Cincy Reds fan, would like try out "trying to buy" a championship. It's been a while.

[mike87]

There's going to be some pissed off oil men in college station next year. 1-0 baby.

[ArmantiWaterSafety]

No, but there are only:

35 5 star recruits
341 4 star recruits

So let's round up and say 400.

That's what, 5 teams? Which, funny enough, is about the amount of teams that are actually able to compete in the current climate for a championship.

The fact is, the P5/G5 thing is a joke. There is the "NFL minor league 5" and then literally the rest of college football as proven by the "G5's" 6-1 record against the "P5's" this bowl season.

Ultimately, while it's easy to fall into the doom and gloom of the NIL ruining college football, college football is already ruined.

We play for championships, just not nationals. We play to win the conference and be the top dog in the landscape of college football outside of the NFL minor league 5.