What happened to make him leave and transfer to Marshall. Looks like it’s going to be an interesting homecoming for him.

KeSean Brown
@Kaptin_k_2
Stripped me of my scholarship so I couldn't finish my degree and enter the portal as a grad transfer, its ok though I found an amazing program to call home' #thunderingherd .So make sure you're ready to see me again under different circumstances'
#WeAreMarshall

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asugoapps wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:41 pm

What happened to make him leave and transfer to Marshall. Looks like it’s going to be an interesting homecoming for him.

KeSean Brown
@Kaptin_k_2
Stripped me of my scholarship so I couldn't finish my degree and enter the portal as a grad transfer, its ok though I found an amazing program to call home' #thunderingherd .So make sure you're ready to see me again under different circumstances'
#WeAreMarshall

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Exactly what he said. He was told his scholarship would not be renewed. There are various reasons that would happen.

asugoapps wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:41 pm

What happened to make him leave and transfer to Marshall. Looks like it’s going to be an interesting homecoming for him.

KeSean Brown
@Kaptin_k_2
Stripped me of my scholarship so I couldn't finish my degree and enter the portal as a grad transfer, its ok though I found an amazing program to call home' #thunderingherd .So make sure you're ready to see me again under different circumstances'
#WeAreMarshall

KESEAN BROWN
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I literally just saw this on Twitter and gravitated over here to see what folks have to say. He def sounds bitter

My guess, and it is purely a guess, is that he was told that his scholarship wouldn’t be renewed. He was likely offered the opportunity to continue playing and complete his education but he would not be on scholarship. It sounds bad, but the reality is that he wasn’t denied an educational opportunity. He chose to leave rather than paying for his education.

There were a couple of guys that are returning next year that were on scholarship this year that won’t be next year. Their choice. I have no knowledge of Brown’s socio-economic ability to pay for school and I can understand wanting a scholarship. But he was offered an opportunity to remain at App but not on scholarship. He chose to leave.

How many years has he been at App under scholarship? Anybody know?

AtlAppMan wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:14 pm

How many years has he been at App under scholarship? Anybody know?

He was a 2019 signee. So, 4 years. 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022.

AppStateNews wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:15 pm

AtlAppMan wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:14 pm

How many years has he been at App under scholarship? Anybody know?

He was a 2019 signee. So, 4 years. 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022.

If you can’t graduate in 4 years with all the help athletes get and extra summer semesters for 4 years, I can’t blame the staff. Just hope whoever fills his role is better and it doesn’t backfire, i don’t think it will at all.

Perhaps, he indicated he wanted to finish his degree so he could enter the transfer portal as a grad transfer. I'm guessing, if this is true, when he expressed an intent to go elsewhere, his scholarship was pulled. If he had wanted to stay, I assume he would have remained on scholarship. I'm also guessing, once in the portal, you are no longer a part of this program and there's no coming back.

Here’s the tweet. Wish I could hear both sides of the story and circumstances surrounding the decisions made.

hapapp wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:22 pm

Perhaps, he indicated he wanted to finish his degree so he could enter the transfer portal as a grad transfer. I'm guessing, if this is true, when he expressed an intent to go elsewhere, his scholarship was pulled. If he had wanted to stay, I assume he would have remained on scholarship. I'm also guessing, once in the portal, you are no longer a part of this program and there's no coming back.

So what happens when we have a kid like a Mccall, or a stewart (dline coastal) that enters portal and gets offered by Michigan or Florida, and then has a change of heart or for some reason not allowed to transfer to said school. Do we let him back? I hope so lol. Every situation is different, we just haven’t had a player be highly sought after yet, but that day is coming, and it’s going to suck. I’m torn on whether to let them back or not. We shall see!

My assumptions:
1.) Brown has been at App for 4 years and hadn’t graduated yet (mentioned above, but if you’re at App for 4 years as a full time student, and you have to be on campus during the summer anyway, why haven’t you graduated in 4 years??)
2.) There are only so many scholarships to go around, and all the extra Covid years allowing players to stay longer probably caused some logjams.
3.) Recruits/transfers that are coming in are better. So, they told him he was off scholarship.

I hope Marshall wins every game they play this year, Kesean Brown has a great season, and then gets handed a big fat L from App State.

I hope Marsha wins very few games..each and every year.

If he goes and balls out at Marshall, then he didn’t really give his all here. I wish him good health, but I will stop at that.

AppSt94 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:54 pm

It sounds bad, but the reality is that he wasn’t denied an educational opportunity. He chose to leave rather than paying for his education.

I have no knowledge of Brown’s socio-economic ability to pay for school and I can understand wanting a scholarship

These two sentences are incompatible.

Without knowledge of his family's ability to pay, it's impossible to say whether he was or was not denied an educational opportunity.

And I don't like the academic shaming going on here. Student athletes go at different speeds for their education. Maybe he changed his major or was undecided for a while? Plus a year-ish of his four years was during COVID and virtual learning.

Worst thing is that besides message board sources, we're not going to get any answers because Clark won't (and probably should) talk about it. And I doubt he's asked about it in a press conference setting.

T-Dog wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:16 pm

AppSt94 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:54 pm

It sounds bad, but the reality is that he wasn’t denied an educational opportunity. He chose to leave rather than paying for his education.

I have no knowledge of Brown’s socio-economic ability to pay for school and I can understand wanting a scholarship

These two sentences are incompatible.

Without knowledge of his family's ability to pay, it's impossible to say whether he was or was not denied an educational opportunity.

And I don't like the academic shaming going on here. Student athletes go at different speeds for their education. Maybe he changed his major or was undecided for a while? Plus a year-ish of his four years was during COVID and virtual learning.

Worst thing is that besides message board sources, we're not going to get any answers because Clark won't (and probably should) talk about it. And I doubt he's asked about it in a press conference setting.

So you are unsettled by “academic shaming”? Got it. All others are OK. Thanks for setting that boundary.

T-Dog wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:16 pm

Worst thing is that besides message board sources, we're not going to get any answers because Clark won't (and probably should) talk about it. And I doubt he's asked about it in a press conference setting.

Why should he talk about it? There are several reasons a players scholarship is not renewed.

Regardless of the reason, it needs to stay in the locker room. You do not put a players business out there. That's a recipe to get your players to not trust you.

If you enter the Portal then you have left the team , and your scholarship , behind.So is that the timing in this case ?

There is a high road and we should walk it.

AppSt94 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:21 pm

T-Dog wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:16 pm

AppSt94 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:54 pm

It sounds bad, but the reality is that he wasn’t denied an educational opportunity. He chose to leave rather than paying for his education.

I have no knowledge of Brown’s socio-economic ability to pay for school and I can understand wanting a scholarship

These two sentences are incompatible.

Without knowledge of his family's ability to pay, it's impossible to say whether he was or was not denied an educational opportunity.

And I don't like the academic shaming going on here. Student athletes go at different speeds for their education. Maybe he changed his major or was undecided for a while? Plus a year-ish of his four years was during COVID and virtual learning.

Worst thing is that besides message board sources, we're not going to get any answers because Clark won't (and probably should) talk about it. And I doubt he's asked about it in a press conference setting.

So you are unsettled by “academic shaming”? Got it. All others are OK. Thanks for setting that boundary.

Wonder why you couldn’t just take the statement for what was said. No reason to change the subject about other shaming! No need to be a smart guy about things.

pop5app wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:12 pm

AppSt94 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:21 pm

T-Dog wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:16 pm

AppSt94 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:54 pm

It sounds bad, but the reality is that he wasn’t denied an educational opportunity. He chose to leave rather than paying for his education.

I have no knowledge of Brown’s socio-economic ability to pay for school and I can understand wanting a scholarship

These two sentences are incompatible.

Without knowledge of his family's ability to pay, it's impossible to say whether he was or was not denied an educational opportunity.

And I don't like the academic shaming going on here. Student athletes go at different speeds for their education. Maybe he changed his major or was undecided for a while? Plus a year-ish of his four years was during COVID and virtual learning.

Worst thing is that besides message board sources, we're not going to get any answers because Clark won't (and probably should) talk about it. And I doubt he's asked about it in a press conference setting.

So you are unsettled by “academic shaming”? Got it. All others are OK. Thanks for setting that boundary.

Wonder why you couldn’t just take the statement for what was said. No reason to change the subject about other shaming! No need to be a smart guy about things.

He quoted me and inserted the term shaming to imply that it was happening and that I was doing it, which I was not.