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Returning production

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:47 pm
by Stonewall
ESPN has an article up that rates all 133 FBS teams based upon "returning production".We rank 131 just ahead of Ga State and Kent at 33%.ECU is one slot ahead of us and 34%.Wyoming is 4th at 83%.USA tops the Belt at #13 and 77%.Elsewhere, different article , they have JMU as the conference favorite at 24th nationally.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:54 pm
by AtlAppMan
Stonewall wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:47 pm
ESPN has an article up that rates all 133 FBS teams based upon "returning production".We rank 131 just ahead of Ga State and Kent at 33%.ECU is one slot ahead of us and 34%.Wyoming is 4th at 83%.USA tops the Belt at #13 and 77%.Elsewhere, different article , they have JMU as the conference favorite at 24th nationally.
So what they are saying is we need some guys to step up, big time?

Re: Returning production

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 5:12 pm
by goapps93
Replacing QB1 plays the biggest role in that number, although JMU is replacing theirs as well. They did bring in a R-Sr. from Arizona/USF. Not sure how substantial that is though. We'll certainly have a lot to prove.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:17 pm
by Black Saturday
anything above .500 next year

Re: Returning production

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:24 pm
by Black Saturday
JMU, rightfully so. They did what they were supposed to but weren't as good when their QB was out. They are serious being a football school. Good coach.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:52 pm
by Stonewall
AtlAppMan wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:54 pm
Stonewall wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:47 pm
ESPN has an article up that rates all 133 FBS teams based upon "returning production".We rank 131 just ahead of Ga State and Kent at 33%.ECU is one slot ahead of us and 34%.Wyoming is 4th at 83%.USA tops the Belt at #13 and 77%.Elsewhere, different article , they have JMU as the conference favorite at 24th nationally.
So what they are saying is we need some guys to step up, big time?
No.All of them.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:09 pm
by AppDub
I love it when we are considered the underdog. Maybe the guys find that chip on the shoulder we are known for and we suprise everyone.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:21 am
by AppStFan1
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:17 pm
anything above .500 next year
When you consider production lost and the fact we replaced a ton of coaches, since many have said coach turnover hurts big time, we should seriously expect about 5 wins. I expect preseason magazines to pick us mid tier in the SBC because of our name but for most others I could see close to last in the east.

I’m happy with staff changes we made though and believe we could exceed expectations. I admit I’ll be ecstatic if we somehow get 7 wins though. Anything more than 7 and I think Clark is a COY candidate. If he somehow wins more than 7 with all the turnover on staff and roster then that would be a very impressive season. We will see how it goes.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:05 am
by Black Saturday
AppStFan1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:21 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:17 pm
anything above .500 next year
When you consider production lost and the fact we replaced a ton of coaches, since many have said coach turnover hurts big time, we should seriously expect about 5 wins. I expect preseason magazines to pick us mid tier in the SBC because of our name but for most others I could see close to last in the east.

I’m happy with staff changes we made though and believe we could exceed expectations. I admit I’ll be ecstatic if we somehow get 7 wins though. Anything more than 7 and I think Clark is a COY candidate. If he somehow wins more than 7 with all the turnover on staff and roster then that would be a very impressive season. We will see how it goes.
yes, as spoiled fans we will have our mettle tested this year.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:59 am
by pop5app
Black Saturday wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:21 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:17 pm
anything above .500 next year
When you consider production lost and the fact we replaced a ton of coaches, since many have said coach turnover hurts big time, we should seriously expect about 5 wins. I expect preseason magazines to pick us mid tier in the SBC because of our name but for most others I could see close to last in the east.

I’m happy with staff changes we made though and believe we could exceed expectations. I admit I’ll be ecstatic if we somehow get 7 wins though. Anything more than 7 and I think Clark is a COY candidate. If he somehow wins more than 7 with all the turnover on staff and roster then that would be a very impressive season. We will see how it goes.
yes, as spoiled fans we will have our mettle tested this year.


I guess I’m spoiled! I’ll admit it. I suspect it’s going to be tough for me to get through next year . As I look at the schedule I really only see one “for sure”win. (GWU) can’t even put ULM in the “for sure” category since it’s away. Everyone else looks ,at best, like a toss up. Schedule, loss of production and almost a completely new coaching staff make it hard for me to be optimistic.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:18 am
by appst89
Rising costs coupled with declining performance is not a sustainable model. Another year of that trend is not going to be pretty.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:35 am
by boonetown1
pop5app wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:59 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:21 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:17 pm
anything above .500 next year
When you consider production lost and the fact we replaced a ton of coaches, since many have said coach turnover hurts big time, we should seriously expect about 5 wins. I expect preseason magazines to pick us mid tier in the SBC because of our name but for most others I could see close to last in the east.

I’m happy with staff changes we made though and believe we could exceed expectations. I admit I’ll be ecstatic if we somehow get 7 wins though. Anything more than 7 and I think Clark is a COY candidate. If he somehow wins more than 7 with all the turnover on staff and roster then that would be a very impressive season. We will see how it goes.
yes, as spoiled fans we will have our mettle tested this year.


I guess I’m spoiled! I’ll admit it. I suspect it’s going to be tough for me to get through next year . As I look at the schedule I really only see one “for sure”win. (GWU) can’t even put ULM in the “for sure” category since it’s away. Everyone else looks ,at best, like a toss up. Schedule, loss of production and almost a completely new coaching staff make it hard for me to be optimistic.
I wouldn’t put gwu in the guaranteed column. The gave ga southern a run last year and have a lot of returning production..

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:19 am
by pop5app
boonetown1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:35 am
pop5app wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:59 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:21 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:17 pm
anything above .500 next year
When you consider production lost and the fact we replaced a ton of coaches, since many have said coach turnover hurts big time, we should seriously expect about 5 wins. I expect preseason magazines to pick us mid tier in the SBC because of our name but for most others I could see close to last in the east.

I’m happy with staff changes we made though and believe we could exceed expectations. I admit I’ll be ecstatic if we somehow get 7 wins though. Anything more than 7 and I think Clark is a COY candidate. If he somehow wins more than 7 with all the turnover on staff and roster then that would be a very impressive season. We will see how it goes.
yes, as spoiled fans we will have our mettle tested this year.


I guess I’m spoiled! I’ll admit it. I suspect it’s going to be tough for me to get through next year . As I look at the schedule I really only see one “for sure”win. (GWU) can’t even put ULM in the “for sure” category since it’s away. Everyone else looks ,at best, like a toss up. Schedule, loss of production and almost a completely new coaching staff make it hard for me to be optimistic.
I wouldn’t put gwu in the guaranteed column. The gave ga southern a run last year and have a lot of returning production..

You are correct! I was born in Shelby and have always kept up with GW but I was trying to be as optimistic as possible. That in itself is a sad statement.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:42 pm
by MrCraig
I'm cautiously optimistic about next year. Even with a heavy does of pessimism, GW, GA State, ODU, and ULM should be wins. I'd say Southern Miss will probably be a win as well. I think anywhere from 5-8 wins is probable.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:58 pm
by appgrad95&97
How did we go from winning the conference to 7-5 would be great? Oh yeah, Clark

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:34 pm
by AppSt94
Returning production is not indicative of replacement production.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:40 pm
by t4pizza
If the defensive ends and defensive backs that we brought in this class, especially the transfers and Juco guys, are as good as predicted, we should be back to our winning ways and I would anticipate 9 wins at least. If those defensive guys struggle, we may very well struggle again. We got a couple ends from the Big 10 that saw significant playing time fo their teams, let's hope that can transfer over to a Sun Belt schedule.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:52 pm
by BambooRdApp
For me, it is the unknown of how our new QB will play.. whomever it is. I hope they are all conference...will not know until in live action...
With that said, I vote App. St. to go 1-0 each week and every week in the weekly prediction.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:58 pm
by 311neers
boonetown1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:35 am
pop5app wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:59 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:05 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:21 am
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:17 pm
anything above .500 next year
When you consider production lost and the fact we replaced a ton of coaches, since many have said coach turnover hurts big time, we should seriously expect about 5 wins. I expect preseason magazines to pick us mid tier in the SBC because of our name but for most others I could see close to last in the east.

I’m happy with staff changes we made though and believe we could exceed expectations. I admit I’ll be ecstatic if we somehow get 7 wins though. Anything more than 7 and I think Clark is a COY candidate. If he somehow wins more than 7 with all the turnover on staff and roster then that would be a very impressive season. We will see how it goes.
yes, as spoiled fans we will have our mettle tested this year.


I guess I’m spoiled! I’ll admit it. I suspect it’s going to be tough for me to get through next year . As I look at the schedule I really only see one “for sure”win. (GWU) can’t even put ULM in the “for sure” category since it’s away. Everyone else looks ,at best, like a toss up. Schedule, loss of production and almost a completely new coaching staff make it hard for me to be optimistic.
I wouldn’t put gwu in the guaranteed column. The gave ga southern a run last year and have a lot of returning production..
A short 2 years ago we were in the driver seat, along with Cincy, Boise, SDSU, to be the Georgia of the G5 (just steamroll everyone by 30 no matter who it is)...now we dont have a guaranteed win on the schedule? Guess that's why they play the game. If we go .500 or less, fan base will lose it's mind, rightfully so. This board has tamed my expectations alot which is probably a good thing.

Re: Returning production

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:10 pm
by WVAPPeer
I know of no team who has any "guaranteed wins" on the schedule -