A Running Metrics Thread

[AppSt94]

I’ve decided to start a thread to track certain metrics that have come up in the past. I’ll add as we go with each week and running cumulative. If there is anything else that is of interest, let me know.

Drives App - 12 resulting in 6 TDs, 1 FG, 1 MFG, 4 punts. 58% of drives ended in points. 66% ended in a scoring opportunity.

GW - 11 drives (discounting end of half possessions) 3 TDs, 1 FG, 4 punts, 3 TOs. 36% of drives ended in points,

3rd Down Conversions
App - 4-13. Converted 5 but 1 nullified by penalty. Avg 3rd YTG 8 yds. 8 passes with an avg of 6.5 YTG. 6 runs with and avg of 10 YTG. 3 1st Downs converted via pass (10, 3, 3). 1 via run by Haywood (2). 3 failed 3rd conversions were converted on 4th. 2 by run. (Haywood for 3 and Aguilar 1). 1 pass for a TD.

GW - 7-17. 5 conversions by pass, 2 by run. 2 4th down conversions via run (1, 3).

[WVAPPeer]

Thanks - but please keep in mind that some of us don't have a functioning math brain cell. I waited to my senior year in college to take Math 101 because I couldn't wait any longer and it was a requirement to graduate - I made a D and I was the happiest son-of-a-bitch on campus

[appstate77]

I’ve decided to start a thread to track certain metrics that have come up in the past. I’ll add as we go with each week and running cumulative. If there is anything else that is of interest, let me know.

Drives App - 12 resulting in 6 TDs, 1 FG, 1 MFG, 4 punts. 58% of drives ended in points. 66% ended in a scoring opportunity.

GW - 11 drives (discounting end of half possessions) 3 TDs, 1 FG, 4 punts, 3 TOs. 36% of drives ended in points,

3rd Down Conversions
App - 4-13. Converted 5 but 1 nullified by penalty. Avg 3rd YTG 8 yds. 8 passes with an avg of 6.5 YTG. 6 runs with and avg of 10 YTG. 3 1st Downs converted via pass (10, 3, 3). 1 via run by Haywood (2). 3 failed 3rd conversions were converted on 4th. 2 by run. (Haywood for 3 and Aguilar 1). 1 pass for a TD.

GW - 7-17. 5 conversions by pass, 2 by run. 2 4th down conversions via run (1, 3).

As 4th downs are important to us, I would add 4th down conversions. We were 4 for 4 against Webb.

[Bigdaddyg1]

How about first downs allowed when the opponent is in 3rd and 5 or longer? Those were brutal last year. And also for App's offense the number of 3rd and 5 to go in which we run up the gut and fail.

[BeauFoster]

So am i reading it correctly that the average to go distance on 3rd down when we ran was 10 yards? That’s quite interesting. I’m not sure if we were “giving up”, hoping to catch the defense looking for pass, or just playing it as a 2 down situation (or a combo, situation-dependent thing).

These are the kinds of analytics that coaches are using now, heavily. They quickly reveal tendencies.

[Bigdaddyg1]

So am i reading it correctly that the average to go distance on 3rd down when we ran was 10 yards? That’s quite interesting. I’m not sure if we were “giving up”, hoping to catch the defense looking for pass, or just playing it as a 2 down situation (or a combo, situation-dependent thing).

These are the kinds of analytics that coaches are using now, heavily. They quickly reveal tendencies.

Based on tendencies if you are playing us and we are faced with 3rd and 7 leave the receivers open and put 11 in the box. We are going to run the ball.

Being a bit sarcastic but not completely

[App_in_Maiden]

So am i reading it correctly that the average to go distance on 3rd down when we ran was 10 yards? That’s quite interesting. I’m not sure if we were “giving up”, hoping to catch the defense looking for pass, or just playing it as a 2 down situation (or a combo, situation-dependent thing).

These are the kinds of analytics that coaches are using now, heavily. They quickly reveal tendencies.

Based on tendencies if you are playing us and we are faced with 3rd and 7 leave the receivers open and put 11 in the box. We are going to run the ball.

Being a bit sarcastic but not completely

Reminds me of the late John Fox years with the Panthers. Yikes.

[BeauFoster]

So am i reading it correctly that the average to go distance on 3rd down when we ran was 10 yards? That’s quite interesting. I’m not sure if we were “giving up”, hoping to catch the defense looking for pass, or just playing it as a 2 down situation (or a combo, situation-dependent thing).

These are the kinds of analytics that coaches are using now, heavily. They quickly reveal tendencies.

Based on tendencies if you are playing us and we are faced with 3rd and 7 leave the receivers open and put 11 in the box. We are going to run the ball.

Being a bit sarcastic but not completely

That would be my concern - I’m too lazy to go back and do the math, but it would be interesting to see this same deep dive for last season. I’d guess that it would be somewhat similar (if not exactly the same). I get that “this is how we do it in Boone”, but if you’re not Alabama, with a stable full of future NFLers on the oline, you might need to mix things up every now and then.

I hope to see some “abnormalities” this coming weekend.

[Bigdaddyg1]

I'd love to see some play action but that requires giving the QB more than 3 seconds to throw the ball.

[AppFan11]

Play action will come…

[AppSt94]

I’ve decided to start a thread to track certain metrics that have come up in the past. I’ll add as we go with each week and running cumulative. If there is anything else that is of interest, let me know.

Drives App - 12 resulting in 6 TDs, 1 FG, 1 MFG, 4 punts. 58% of drives ended in points. 66% ended in a scoring opportunity.

GW - 11 drives (discounting end of half possessions) 3 TDs, 1 FG, 4 punts, 3 TOs. 36% of drives ended in points,

3rd Down Conversions
App - 4-13. Converted 5 but 1 nullified by penalty. Avg 3rd YTG 8 yds. 8 passes with an avg of 6.5 YTG. 6 runs with and avg of 10 YTG. 3 1st Downs converted via pass (10, 3, 3). 1 via run by Haywood (2). 3 failed 3rd conversions were converted on 4th. 2 by run. (Haywood for 3 and Aguilar 1). 1 pass for a TD.

GW - 7-17. 5 conversions by pass, 2 by run. 2 4th down conversions via run (1, 3).

As 4th downs are important to us, I would add 4th down conversions. We were 4 for 4 against Webb.

3 failed 3rd conversions were converted on 4th. 2 by run. (Haywood for 3 and Aguilar 1). 1 pass for a TD.

[AppDub]

So am i reading it correctly that the average to go distance on 3rd down when we ran was 10 yards? That’s quite interesting. I’m not sure if we were “giving up”, hoping to catch the defense looking for pass, or just playing it as a 2 down situation (or a combo, situation-dependent thing).

These are the kinds of analytics that coaches are using now, heavily. They quickly reveal tendencies.

Based on tendencies if you are playing us and we are faced with 3rd and 7 leave the receivers open and put 11 in the box. We are going to run the ball.

Being a bit sarcastic but not completely

Reminds me of the late John Fox years with the Panthers. Yikes.

Good old Dan Henning as the OC then. Run left, run right, run middle, punt. Very exciting.

[AppSt94]

So am i reading it correctly that the average to go distance on 3rd down when we ran was 10 yards? That’s quite interesting. I’m not sure if we were “giving up”, hoping to catch the defense looking for pass, or just playing it as a 2 down situation (or a combo, situation-dependent thing).

These are the kinds of analytics that coaches are using now, heavily. They quickly reveal tendencies.

I would imagine that there are a few variables to factor. What the defense is playing to defend and location on the field are probably the two biggest factors.

[AppSt94]

How about first downs allowed when the opponent is in 3rd and 5 or longer? Those were brutal last year. And also for App's offense the number of 3rd and 5 to go in which we run up the gut and fail.

GW converted 7 3rd downs. They converted 3rd & __:
1 via pass
11 via pass
11 via run
5 via pass
2 via run
5 via pass
4 via pass.

They were 4/11 on 3rd downs of 5 yds or greater.

They also had a 3rd & 7 where they got 6 and converted a 4th & 1 and a 3rd & 4 where they got 2 and converted 4th & 2.

[Bigdaddyg1]

How about first downs allowed when the opponent is in 3rd and 5 or longer? Those were brutal last year. And also for App's offense the number of 3rd and 5 to go in which we run up the gut and fail.

GW converted 7 3rd downs. They converted 3rd & __:
1 via pass
11 via pass
11 via run
5 via pass
2 via run
5 via pass
4 via pass.

They were 4/11 on 3rd downs of 5 yds or greater.

I guess you can look at most any stat or variable but I'd be interested to know how 3rd and 10+ shook out for both our defense and offense last year. I would bet we gave up way more than we executed on our side.

[AppSt94]

How about first downs allowed when the opponent is in 3rd and 5 or longer? Those were brutal last year. And also for App's offense the number of 3rd and 5 to go in which we run up the gut and fail.

GW converted 7 3rd downs. They converted 3rd & __:
1 via pass
11 via pass
11 via run
5 via pass
2 via run
5 via pass
4 via pass.

They were 4/11 on 3rd downs of 5 yds or greater.

I guess you can look at most any stat or variable but I'd be interested to know how 3rd and 10+ shook out for both our defense and offense last year. I would bet we gave up way more than we executed on our side.

You are probably correct about last year. I may go back through the game logs from last year and look if I get some time.

[AppSt94]

Another interesting breakdown; We were 3/8 with Burger. A 4th conversion was called back for holding. We converted one of those on 4th down.

We were 1/5 on 3rd with Aguilar with two of those converted on 4th down. Also had a FG off one of those failed attempts as well.

[BambooRdApp]

Another interesting breakdown; We were 3/8 with Burger. A 4th conversion was called back for holding. We converted one of those on 4th down.

We were 1/5 on 3rd with Aguilar with two of those converted on 4th down. Also had a FG off one of those failed attempts as well.

The question is .what was the down and distance. Neither of those 3rd % are very good. However, I seem to remember that Burger had a couple of 3rd and double digits due his fumble and another due to penalty if my memory serves me right

[AppSt94]

Another interesting breakdown; We were 3/8 with Burger. A 4th conversion was called back for holding. We converted one of those on 4th down.

We were 1/5 on 3rd with Aguilar with two of those converted on 4th down. Also had a FG off one of those failed attempts as well.

The question is .what was the down and distance. Neither of those 3rd % are very good. However, I seem to remember that Burger had a couple of 3rd and double digits due his fumble and another due to penalty if my memory serves me right

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