Where are we at as Appalachian football?

[DenverOfTheEast]

Damn, #4 Southern Cal should fire their coach too. They only won by 7 (48-41) and they were favored to win by 20.5 points. SC's defense gave up 564 yards to Colorado!!! Fire Lincoln Riley now!!!!!!!

We will be fine!!!

Bad analogy, but it leads to a good point that others have made. What is App’s football identity? USC under Lincoln Riley has been an all gas, no brakes offense with absolutely no defense. Is this a good plan? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s an identity. What is App’s? App USED to focus on having a nasty o-line that led a methodical, powerful run game with a strong defense. What has been the App game plan the last 3 years? I couldn’t tell you.

Well you obviously don't watch then, App State identity under Clark is run the ball, wear you down and proof of that is in the rushing yards/stats for Peoples, Noel, Evans, etc. and have a solid passing game which they have under Thomas, Brice and now JA the last 4 seasons.

**App State has had 3 OC's in 3 years under Clark and NOT his fault, App can't afford to keep them...

Let's remember our best defender got BOUGHT by Auburn(?) back in July and Harrington lost for year vs UNC.
App defense identity has been speed, a little inexperienced this year. The UNC game in week 2 was App's true identity, the ECU and Wyoming as well were tough battles. The game last night was about speed and ULM was fast.

Your offensive identity should match your defensive identity - but you're correct it all starts with line play up front on both sides.

[appstate5]

Look at the schedule
Win 1, Lose 1, Win 1, Lose 1, Win 1.......that's where we are at.

[AppSt12]

I postwd this below under the 'reset' post. But fits more appropriatly here.

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I personally cant 'reset' what is acceptable simply because Shawn Clark has 0 in-game coaching ability.

Success to me would be an 11-3 season (only 1 more loss, but making the conference title game), winning the title game (i do happen to think we are slightly better than the best team in the west) and a bowl win in a weak bowl.

Of course this does feel impossible...but we cant become a fan base that accepts 6 or 7 win seasons.

In the 95 years of App State football we have an AVERAGE 8 (7.8 technically) wins per year (when adjusted for the modern 12 game schedule) at a 64.5% all time win percentage (15th best in the country).

Since 2005 (16 seasons when you take away the transitional 2013/2014 years where we werent eligible for playoffs/bowls and we redshirted tons of players to prepare for the move up) we have won:

3 IAA National Titles
11 conference titles
11 double digit win seasons
plus two 9 win seasons
6-1 Bowl Record
2 AP Top 10 wins
Took 2 other AP top 10 to OT
6th best record in FBS since 2015
Most wins in G5 since 2015
5th best conference win percentage in FBS since 2015
1st best win percentage most conference titles of anyone since weve been in the sun belt


Some of you guys dont realize what our program is and act like we are Western Carolina. We are a big time program. The only thing we lack compared to our top competition is a NY6 bid...but from a consistincy standpoint...Boise State and NDSU are the only nonp5 programs that have a better resume than us.

Certainly our figures would be better if not for the Shawn Clark years (he has a very Average winning percentage, but he loses most close games against teams that are similar to our level, hes horrible (5-11 vs teams we are +/- 5 point favorites/underdogs)...but we cant accept average. We are not average.

[BeauFoster]

I saw a stat last night, haven’t checked it but seems true - last night was the first road game App has won in over a year.

Let that sink in…a year of road losses. That’s a bad stat, no matter how many conference games we’ve won this season.

This team has to get better, and in a hurry. I think the talent is there, but the mistakes are killing us. Penalties, turnovers, taking too long to get plays in/called…all those things will kill a chance at a win.

[Pikapp79]

Damn, #4 Southern Cal should fire their coach too. They only won by 7 (48-41) and they were favored to win by 20.5 points. SC's defense gave up 564 yards to Colorado!!! Fire Lincoln Riley now!!!!!!!

We will be fine!!!

Bad analogy, but it leads to a good point that others have made. What is App’s football identity? USC under Lincoln Riley has been an all gas, no brakes offense with absolutely no defense. Is this a good plan? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s an identity. What is App’s? App USED to focus on having a nasty o-line that led a methodical, powerful run game with a strong defense. What has been the App game plan the last 3 years? I couldn’t tell you.

Well you obviously don't watch then, App State identity under Clark is run the ball, wear you down and proof of that is in the rushing yards/stats for Peoples, Noel, Evans, etc. and have a solid passing game which they have under Thomas, Brice and now JA the last 4 seasons.

**App State has had 3 OC's in 3 years under Clark and NOT his fault, App can't afford to keep them...

Let's remember our best defender got BOUGHT by Auburn(?) back in July and Harrington lost for year vs UNC.
App defense identity has been speed, a little inexperienced this year. The UNC game in week 2 was App's true identity, the ECU and Wyoming as well were tough battles. The game last night was about speed and ULM was fast.

Your offensive identity should match your defensive identity - but you're correct it all starts with line play up front on both sides.

Nothing is ever his fault.

[MrCraig]

Damn, #4 Southern Cal should fire their coach too. They only won by 7 (48-41) and they were favored to win by 20.5 points. SC's defense gave up 564 yards to Colorado!!! Fire Lincoln Riley now!!!!!!!

We will be fine!!!

Bad analogy, but it leads to a good point that others have made. What is App’s football identity? USC under Lincoln Riley has been an all gas, no brakes offense with absolutely no defense. Is this a good plan? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s an identity. What is App’s? App USED to focus on having a nasty o-line that led a methodical, powerful run game with a strong defense. What has been the App game plan the last 3 years? I couldn’t tell you.

Well you obviously don't watch then, App State identity under Clark is run the ball, wear you down and proof of that is in the rushing yards/stats for Peoples, Noel, Evans, etc. and have a solid passing game which they have under Thomas, Brice and now JA the last 4 seasons.

**App State has had 3 OC's in 3 years under Clark and NOT his fault, App can't afford to keep them...

Let's remember our best defender got BOUGHT by Auburn(?) back in July and Harrington lost for year vs UNC.
App defense identity has been speed, a little inexperienced this year. The UNC game in week 2 was App's true identity, the ECU and Wyoming as well were tough battles. The game last night was about speed and ULM was fast.

Your offensive identity should match your defensive identity - but you're correct it all starts with line play up front on both sides.

Your condescension is a nice cherry on top of this incorrect sundae. “Run the ball and wear you down” was App’s identity under Satterfield. Under Clark, App’s offense has been much, much more balanced. You can see play totals here:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sc ... /2023.html

App has actually ran the ball less per game each season under Clark. 2020 was the last time the run/pass play differential was more than +10 for run plays. The team as it’s currently constructed is built for more of a spread look, but they don’t really do that either.

And as for OC turnover, I’m not sure if it was you or someone else I pointed this out to, but only 2 OCs got poached by a bigger program- Barbay- and there was a lot of speculation last year as to whether he was actually calling the plays anyway, and Ponce- who is back now. Tony Peterson needed to be fired before he went to Illinois (where he was fired after 1 year).

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Where are we? -- Well, last I looked we are
1-0

You are delusional if you think we are in a good spot by beating the worst team in the league by 1

ODU and Southern Miss are worse, possibly Coastal.

[CVAPP]

I am as disgusted as anyone else, but we are going to have to give him some time. I am convinced he has the heart to learn and perform his job at a higher level.

The alternative is to shuffle through rising stars.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Damn, #4 Southern Cal should fire their coach too. They only won by 7 (48-41) and they were favored to win by 20.5 points. SC's defense gave up 564 yards to Colorado!!! Fire Lincoln Riley now!!!!!!!

We will be fine!!!

Bad analogy, but it leads to a good point that others have made. What is App’s football identity? USC under Lincoln Riley has been an all gas, no brakes offense with absolutely no defense. Is this a good plan? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s an identity. What is App’s? App USED to focus on having a nasty o-line that led a methodical, powerful run game with a strong defense. What has been the App game plan the last 3 years? I couldn’t tell you.

Well you obviously don't watch then, App State identity under Clark is run the ball, wear you down and proof of that is in the rushing yards/stats for Peoples, Noel, Evans, etc. and have a solid passing game which they have under Thomas, Brice and now JA the last 4 seasons.

**App State has had 3 OC's in 3 years under Clark and NOT his fault, App can't afford to keep them...

Let's remember our best defender got BOUGHT by Auburn(?) back in July and Harrington lost for year vs UNC.
App defense identity has been speed, a little inexperienced this year. The UNC game in week 2 was App's true identity, the ECU and Wyoming as well were tough battles. The game last night was about speed and ULM was fast.

Your offensive identity should match your defensive identity - but you're correct it all starts with line play up front on both sides.

Your condescension is a nice cherry on top of this incorrect sundae. “Run the ball and wear you down” was App’s identity under Satterfield. Under Clark, App’s offense has been much, much more balanced. You can see play totals here:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sc ... /2023.html

App has actually ran the ball less per game each season under Clark. 2020 was the last time the run/pass play differential was more than +10 for run plays. The team as it’s currently constructed is built for more of a spread look, but they don’t really do that either.

And as for OC turnover, I’m not sure if it was you or someone else I pointed this out to, but only 2 OCs got poached by a bigger program- Barbay- and there was a lot of speculation last year as to whether he was actually calling the plays anyway, and Ponce- who is back now. Tony Peterson needed to be fired before he went to Illinois (where he was fired after 1 year).

First - Tony went to Illinois with a FAT contract and was 'never' fired... now, was many happy to see him, maybe so but the dude left for more money.

Barbay called the plays, he installed all the reverses and such, 6 wins under Barbay. Peterson 10 wins, Ponce 9 wins = are Facts. Little does everyone forget how excited they were after Barbary scored 60 vs UNC in his first game as OC.

2ndly - on your link to stats it reads, App state offense rushes 43.8 times per game, passes 35.0 attempts per game -- not sure where you were looking.

3rd - identity is running the ball, Clark is OL coach, run first.

4th - Satt had Lamb as a QB kid he couldn't throw, was a better runner than any QB since Edwards.

[AppOrange]

Where are we? -- Well, last I looked we are
1-0

You are delusional if you think we are in a good spot by beating the worst team in the league by 1

4000 miles of travel, nah, we won, college football is hard

[311neers]

Damn, #4 Southern Cal should fire their coach too. They only won by 7 (48-41) and they were favored to win by 20.5 points. SC's defense gave up 564 yards to Colorado!!! Fire Lincoln Riley now!!!!!!!

We will be fine!!!

Bad analogy, but it leads to a good point that others have made. What is App’s football identity? USC under Lincoln Riley has been an all gas, no brakes offense with absolutely no defense. Is this a good plan? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s an identity. What is App’s? App USED to focus on having a nasty o-line that led a methodical, powerful run game with a strong defense. What has been the App game plan the last 3 years? I couldn’t tell you.

Well you obviously don't watch then, App State identity under Clark is run the ball, wear you down and proof of that is in the rushing yards/stats for Peoples, Noel, Evans, etc. and have a solid passing game which they have under Thomas, Brice and now JA the last 4 seasons.

**App State has had 3 OC's in 3 years under Clark and NOT his fault, App can't afford to keep them...

Let's remember our best defender got BOUGHT by Auburn(?) back in July and Harrington lost for year vs UNC.
App defense identity has been speed, a little inexperienced this year. The UNC game in week 2 was App's true identity, the ECU and Wyoming as well were tough battles. The game last night was about speed and ULM was fast.

Your offensive identity should match your defensive identity - but you're correct it all starts with line play up front on both sides.

Nothing is ever his fault.

JMU has had players poached left and right and they’re still 5-0.
McLeod was the first guy to step up (P5) of the portal being active…that’s a good and bad thing. Good, kids want to stay. Bad- we didn’t have anyone that got looks from P5.

[AppOrange]

Glad we didn’t give up on coach Moore after his 4-7 year 5 record, go Apps, next year is the barometer. #trustthe process. #nokneejerkreactionsyourbetterthanthat

[AppSt12]

Glad we didn’t give up on coach Moore after his 4-7 year 5 record, go Apps, next year is the barometer. #trustthe process. #nokneejerkreactionsyourbetterthanthat

We were not as prestigious of a program back then. This is totally different. There is nothing knee jerk about anyones reaction...weve had clark for 4 years. We know how bad it is

[AppOrange]

Glad we didn’t give up on coach Moore after his 4-7 year 5 record, go Apps, next year is the barometer. #trustthe process. #nokneejerkreactionsyourbetterthanthat

We were not as prestigious of a program back then. This is totally different. There is nothing knee jerk about anyones reaction...weve had clark for 4 years. We know how bad it is

Nah, this is exactly what people were saying year 5 for coach Moore on AppFans.com. Don’t be that guy. You could be right, but just as wrong.

[appdaze]

Glad we didn’t give up on coach Moore after his 4-7 year 5 record, go Apps, next year is the barometer. #trustthe process. #nokneejerkreactionsyourbetterthanthat

We were not as prestigious of a program back then. This is totally different. There is nothing knee jerk about anyones reaction...weve had clark for 4 years. We know how bad it is

Nah, this is exactly what people were saying year 5 for coach Moore on AppFans.com. Don’t be that guy. You could be right, but just as wrong.

Appfan.com existed in 1993? Coach Moore already had a conference chip and football was not nearly as big as it is now for us. It was much easier to excuse a rebuild season after a chip had already been earned. That is t the case here.

[Saint3333]

Someone referenced Appfan.com, this place is child’s play compared to that 7th level of hell site.

[MrCraig]

Damn, #4 Southern Cal should fire their coach too. They only won by 7 (48-41) and they were favored to win by 20.5 points. SC's defense gave up 564 yards to Colorado!!! Fire Lincoln Riley now!!!!!!!

We will be fine!!!

Bad analogy, but it leads to a good point that others have made. What is App’s football identity? USC under Lincoln Riley has been an all gas, no brakes offense with absolutely no defense. Is this a good plan? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s an identity. What is App’s? App USED to focus on having a nasty o-line that led a methodical, powerful run game with a strong defense. What has been the App game plan the last 3 years? I couldn’t tell you.

Well you obviously don't watch then, App State identity under Clark is run the ball, wear you down and proof of that is in the rushing yards/stats for Peoples, Noel, Evans, etc. and have a solid passing game which they have under Thomas, Brice and now JA the last 4 seasons.

**App State has had 3 OC's in 3 years under Clark and NOT his fault, App can't afford to keep them...

Let's remember our best defender got BOUGHT by Auburn(?) back in July and Harrington lost for year vs UNC.
App defense identity has been speed, a little inexperienced this year. The UNC game in week 2 was App's true identity, the ECU and Wyoming as well were tough battles. The game last night was about speed and ULM was fast.

Your offensive identity should match your defensive identity - but you're correct it all starts with line play up front on both sides.

Your condescension is a nice cherry on top of this incorrect sundae. “Run the ball and wear you down” was App’s identity under Satterfield. Under Clark, App’s offense has been much, much more balanced. You can see play totals here:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sc ... /2023.html

App has actually ran the ball less per game each season under Clark. 2020 was the last time the run/pass play differential was more than +10 for run plays. The team as it’s currently constructed is built for more of a spread look, but they don’t really do that either.

And as for OC turnover, I’m not sure if it was you or someone else I pointed this out to, but only 2 OCs got poached by a bigger program- Barbay- and there was a lot of speculation last year as to whether he was actually calling the plays anyway, and Ponce- who is back now. Tony Peterson needed to be fired before he went to Illinois (where he was fired after 1 year).

First - Tony went to Illinois with a FAT contract and was 'never' fired... now, was many happy to see him, maybe so but the dude left for more money.

Barbay called the plays, he installed all the reverses and such, 6 wins under Barbay. Peterson 10 wins, Ponce 9 wins = are Facts. Little does everyone forget how excited they were after Barbary scored 60 vs UNC in his first game as OC.

2ndly - on your link to stats it reads, App state offense rushes 43.8 times per game, passes 35.0 attempts per game -- not sure where you were looking.

3rd - identity is running the ball, Clark is OL coach, run first.

4th - Satt had Lamb as a QB kid he couldn't throw, was a better runner than any QB since Edwards.

2023 (so far)- averaging 8.8 more run plays than pass plays.
2022- averaged 9.6 more run plays than pass plays.
2021- averaged 10.7 more run plays than pass plays.
2020- averaged 20.3 more run plays than pass plays.
2019- averaged 16.2 more run plays than pass plays.
2018- averaged 17 more run plays than pass plays.
2017- averaged 13.4 more run plays than pass plays.

Again, they USED to run the ball to wear the other team down. Since Clark has been coach, they have been much more balanced. "Balanced" CAN be an identity. However, the coaching staff keeps saying their identity is running the ball. Actual play calling is not reflecting that.

Clark was an O-line coach, yet the O-line has been a weakness in recent years.

As for your fourth point, it truly is amazing how the internet has allowed all of us to get on, type whatever we want, and put it out into the world. Taylor Lamb was "a better runner than any QB since Edwards." Brother... what?!?

[311neers]

Bad analogy, but it leads to a good point that others have made. What is App’s football identity? USC under Lincoln Riley has been an all gas, no brakes offense with absolutely no defense. Is this a good plan? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s an identity. What is App’s? App USED to focus on having a nasty o-line that led a methodical, powerful run game with a strong defense. What has been the App game plan the last 3 years? I couldn’t tell you.

Well you obviously don't watch then, App State identity under Clark is run the ball, wear you down and proof of that is in the rushing yards/stats for Peoples, Noel, Evans, etc. and have a solid passing game which they have under Thomas, Brice and now JA the last 4 seasons.

**App State has had 3 OC's in 3 years under Clark and NOT his fault, App can't afford to keep them...

Let's remember our best defender got BOUGHT by Auburn(?) back in July and Harrington lost for year vs UNC.
App defense identity has been speed, a little inexperienced this year. The UNC game in week 2 was App's true identity, the ECU and Wyoming as well were tough battles. The game last night was about speed and ULM was fast.

Your offensive identity should match your defensive identity - but you're correct it all starts with line play up front on both sides.

Your condescension is a nice cherry on top of this incorrect sundae. “Run the ball and wear you down” was App’s identity under Satterfield. Under Clark, App’s offense has been much, much more balanced. You can see play totals here:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sc ... /2023.html

App has actually ran the ball less per game each season under Clark. 2020 was the last time the run/pass play differential was more than +10 for run plays. The team as it’s currently constructed is built for more of a spread look, but they don’t really do that either.

And as for OC turnover, I’m not sure if it was you or someone else I pointed this out to, but only 2 OCs got poached by a bigger program- Barbay- and there was a lot of speculation last year as to whether he was actually calling the plays anyway, and Ponce- who is back now. Tony Peterson needed to be fired before he went to Illinois (where he was fired after 1 year).

First - Tony went to Illinois with a FAT contract and was 'never' fired... now, was many happy to see him, maybe so but the dude left for more money.

Barbay called the plays, he installed all the reverses and such, 6 wins under Barbay. Peterson 10 wins, Ponce 9 wins = are Facts. Little does everyone forget how excited they were after Barbary scored 60 vs UNC in his first game as OC.

2ndly - on your link to stats it reads, App state offense rushes 43.8 times per game, passes 35.0 attempts per game -- not sure where you were looking.

3rd - identity is running the ball, Clark is OL coach, run first.

4th - Satt had Lamb as a QB kid he couldn't throw, was a better runner than any QB since Edwards.

2023 (so far)- averaging 8.8 more run plays than pass plays.
2022- averaged 9.6 more run plays than pass plays.
2021- averaged 10.7 more run plays than pass plays.
2020- averaged 20.3 more run plays than pass plays.
2019- averaged 16.2 more run plays than pass plays.
2018- averaged 17 more run plays than pass plays.
2017- averaged 13.4 more run plays than pass plays.

Again, they USED to run the ball to wear the other team down. Since Clark has been coach, they have been much more balanced. "Balanced" CAN be an identity. However, the coaching staff keeps saying their identity is running the ball. Actual play calling is not reflecting that.

Clark was an O-line coach, yet the O-line has been a weakness in recent years.

As for your fourth point, it truly is amazing how the internet has allowed all of us to get on, type whatever we want, and put it out into the world. Taylor Lamb was "a better runner than any QB since Edwards." Brother... what?!?

I think we are also throwing more because we are down more than we used to be. Always playing catch up it seems.

[DenverOfTheEast]

Bad analogy, but it leads to a good point that others have made. What is App’s football identity? USC under Lincoln Riley has been an all gas, no brakes offense with absolutely no defense. Is this a good plan? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s an identity. What is App’s? App USED to focus on having a nasty o-line that led a methodical, powerful run game with a strong defense. What has been the App game plan the last 3 years? I couldn’t tell you.

Well you obviously don't watch then, App State identity under Clark is run the ball, wear you down and proof of that is in the rushing yards/stats for Peoples, Noel, Evans, etc. and have a solid passing game which they have under Thomas, Brice and now JA the last 4 seasons.

**App State has had 3 OC's in 3 years under Clark and NOT his fault, App can't afford to keep them...

Let's remember our best defender got BOUGHT by Auburn(?) back in July and Harrington lost for year vs UNC.
App defense identity has been speed, a little inexperienced this year. The UNC game in week 2 was App's true identity, the ECU and Wyoming as well were tough battles. The game last night was about speed and ULM was fast.

Your offensive identity should match your defensive identity - but you're correct it all starts with line play up front on both sides.

Your condescension is a nice cherry on top of this incorrect sundae. “Run the ball and wear you down” was App’s identity under Satterfield. Under Clark, App’s offense has been much, much more balanced. You can see play totals here:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sc ... /2023.html

App has actually ran the ball less per game each season under Clark. 2020 was the last time the run/pass play differential was more than +10 for run plays. The team as it’s currently constructed is built for more of a spread look, but they don’t really do that either.

And as for OC turnover, I’m not sure if it was you or someone else I pointed this out to, but only 2 OCs got poached by a bigger program- Barbay- and there was a lot of speculation last year as to whether he was actually calling the plays anyway, and Ponce- who is back now. Tony Peterson needed to be fired before he went to Illinois (where he was fired after 1 year).

First - Tony went to Illinois with a FAT contract and was 'never' fired... now, was many happy to see him, maybe so but the dude left for more money.

Barbay called the plays, he installed all the reverses and such, 6 wins under Barbay. Peterson 10 wins, Ponce 9 wins = are Facts. Little does everyone forget how excited they were after Barbary scored 60 vs UNC in his first game as OC.

2ndly - on your link to stats it reads, App state offense rushes 43.8 times per game, passes 35.0 attempts per game -- not sure where you were looking.

3rd - identity is running the ball, Clark is OL coach, run first.

4th - Satt had Lamb as a QB kid he couldn't throw, was a better runner than any QB since Edwards.

2023 (so far)- averaging 8.8 more run plays than pass plays.
2022- averaged 9.6 more run plays than pass plays.
2021- averaged 10.7 more run plays than pass plays.
2020- averaged 20.3 more run plays than pass plays.
2019- averaged 16.2 more run plays than pass plays.
2018- averaged 17 more run plays than pass plays.
2017- averaged 13.4 more run plays than pass plays.

Again, they USED to run the ball to wear the other team down. Since Clark has been coach, they have been much more balanced. "Balanced" CAN be an identity. However, the coaching staff keeps saying their identity is running the ball. Actual play calling is not reflecting that.

Clark was an O-line coach, yet the O-line has been a weakness in recent years.

As for your fourth point, it truly is amazing how the internet has allowed all of us to get on, type whatever we want, and put it out into the world. Taylor Lamb was "a better runner than any QB since Edwards." Brother... what?!?

Looks to me like you proved my point and your question for all us....THEY still run the ball more in each season.

The O line graduated a ton of guys after 2021, still not a weakness when you produce 1000 yard rushers and a Chase Brice, JA passing numbers.

And Taylor Lamb if you watched during his tenure ran the ball on QB draw plays over and over -- my point proven again he was a runner not a passer.

Come on "Craig Mack".
"kick some new flavor" in my ear that I don't know. (hopefully a few get my dry humor)

[appstatealum]

Running the ball to control the clock and hoping everything else works out isn't an identity. Satt did run first ball control with great zone blocking scheme guys and had a bend don't break defense. His goal was to keep games "contained". Drink sort of mirrored it with an even better defense and a legit special teams. Our defense has shown an inability to prevent the big play/quick score stuff, which doesn't bode will either a run first offense. So if that is our identity, it's a losing formula. I honestly credit Joey for the "leave it all on the field" mentality that's helped us have a chance in some.of these games (albeit his flaws have surfaced). Could Burger have provided the same, maybe, but if Joey is the reason we've had a chance, that also could be a red flag for this staff for choosing Burger. Burger looked lost and indecisive in the short sample size we got (I get his finger was broken). Running the ball and hoping Noel breaks off enough runs for TDs to match opponent TDs isn't an identity. Not having LB depth behind Harrington isn't proof of good recruiting. Your QB fumbling and not one lineman swarming to a loose ball is not "blue collar" type vibes. Your star RB getting decapitated and not having his whole team at his defense (a la Chargers yesterday for Herbert) doesn't scream "player led team". I hear propaganda, but not much substance to support it. I valued AppStateNews and his inside perspective, but he and I also had differing perspectives of certain things when I had equal "access". It's the old "Fox News vs CNN" type thing- truth probably falls somewhere in the middle.