Who?

[mountainman33]

I don't know enough about the university's finances, but if no action is taken season ticket sales will plummet next year unless we pull off some spectacular turnaround for the end of the season. Buyout will probably have to be weighed against that risk b/c they've invested a ton into that stadium. I like the OC hire as a demo for a potential HC position. Seems lower risk and more cost efficient. Oh well... we'll see what happens I guess.

[yosef69]

I have heard things that suggest the powers that be are not nearly as close to the edge as the majority of the fanbase. With both coordinators having guaranteed two year deals, I am beginning to believe that nothing is going to be done this year regardless of the record.

I don't know when you got your information. It was the same as mine. But Saturday may have changed things.

It was after Saturday.

depressing. Have some pride.

If this is true the attendance will be down, season tickets will be down, I imagine giving will be down (other than the Clark backers).

Seriously embarrassing to retain a coach with 2 abysmal season in a row.

[yosef69]

It's not terribly surprising to hear that they're not looking to make a change. We're competitive, albeit on the wrong side of it 90% of the time, but I think they've bought into the long-term vision of Clark of saying 2024 is the year everything clicks, and I sure as hell hope they're right.

When we finish 4-8 how likely is a good season the next year?

[HurricaneYosef]

I doubt season tickets plummet enough to move the needle. They may even hold steady since there is a waitlist for them

Donations though could

[GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool]

I have heard things that suggest the powers that be are not nearly as close to the edge as the majority of the fanbase. With both coordinators having guaranteed two year deals, I am beginning to believe that nothing is going to be done this year regardless of the record.

I don't know when you got your information. It was the same as mine. But Saturday may have changed things.

It was after Saturday.

Is Denver just Sofield going undercover and telling us where he’s stood the entire time?

[The Rock]

I have heard things that suggest the powers that be are not nearly as close to the edge as the majority of the fanbase. With both coordinators having guaranteed two year deals, I am beginning to believe that nothing is going to be done this year regardless of the record.

I don't know when you got your information. It was the same as mine. But Saturday may have changed things.

It was after Saturday.

depressing. Have some pride.

If this is true the attendance will be down, season tickets will be down, I imagine giving will be down (other than the Clark backers).

Seriously embarrassing to retain a coach with 2 abysmal season in a row.

I get your point, and while 6 wins isn't what we are used to, and should not be comfortable with, I'm not sure it would call it abysmal. That is relative. This season is a disappointment thus far, and if we don't win another game, I would call it abysmal. But its not over yet. Winning out or 4/5 would really be pretty solid especially compared to how it started.

[yosef69]

I have heard things that suggest the powers that be are not nearly as close to the edge as the majority of the fanbase. With both coordinators having guaranteed two year deals, I am beginning to believe that nothing is going to be done this year regardless of the record.

I don't know when you got your information. It was the same as mine. But Saturday may have changed things.

It was after Saturday.

depressing. Have some pride.

If this is true the attendance will be down, season tickets will be down, I imagine giving will be down (other than the Clark backers).

Seriously embarrassing to retain a coach with 2 abysmal season in a row.

I get your point, and while 6 wins isn't what we are used to, and should not be comfortable with, I'm not sure it would call it abysmal. That is relative. This season is a disappointment thus far, and if we don't win another game, I would call it abysmal. But its not over yet. Winning out or 4/5 would really be pretty solid especially compared to how it started.

We could very well lose out. That would be abysmal.

Keeping the person that just led you to your worst season(s) in a long time is a tacit admission that it’s ok.

[yosef69]

I doubt season tickets plummet enough to move the needle. They may even hold steady since there is a waitlist for them

Donations though could

Our marquee home matchup next year is JMU

[t4pizza]

There were many posters on here last season complaining about all the bad things that were going to happen because the season was so disappointing. According to those posters, many are the same ones saying the same things this year, we will lose players to the portal, we will lose donations to Yosef, we will not sell as many tickets, etc. Well, all of those beliefs and posts about last year were dead wrong. We lost very little production to the Portal, sure Jalen was a huge loss but we will NEVER beat out a 200k offer from a SEC school. Other than that, no starters left us which clearly showed they players still believed in Clark. Our Yosef contributions set another record this year past season. Truth be told that probably has as much to do with the new parking and seat donation requirements but nonetheless it went up. Season tickets sold out well before the Fall AND there is a purported waiting list.
By the beginning of next season we will see if any of this "sky is falling" fears are realized but I doubt it. Yes, JMU is our big home game next year but we get NCSU the following year and I doubt many want to risk losing their seats to someone on the waiting list that might not relinquish them in 25. In the end, I don't see the fan financial support declining even if Clark returns for 2024. I happened to look at our attendance for 2019 since it is always hailed as our best year ever, surprisingly it was significantly lower than the this year (so far) or last. Since Covid our fans have come out in full force and I don't see that changing, hell we got 34k for a Tuesday night game. I just don't see the fans leaving in large numbers.

[spacemonkey]

Can anyone give a breakdown of the 34,000 attendance with knowledge not guesses?

% Student
% Season Tickets
% purchased single game tickets.

What does the single game ticket Revenue look like and what does the Season Ticket revenue look like?

I have been amazed at the student turn out but those are not extra revenue tickets.

[Stonewall]

I have heard things that suggest the powers that be are not nearly as close to the edge as the majority of the fanbase. With both coordinators having guaranteed two year deals, I am beginning to believe that nothing is going to be done this year regardless of the record.

In addition, I've heard there are many starting to disapprove of DG.

My sources seem to confirm the above. It may be that Clark, Ponce and Sloan were given assurances of two more years at the time.I do not know .As to DG , confidence is wavering .The Clark extension he "rammed through" among other things is problematic obviously , unless the tide turns.But yes , a frustration with him.

[Yosef1986]

So far - there seems to be a few versions - SC is gone - or maybe not. Or it could be DG that is potentially gone - or I guess both could be gone. It appears to be a messy situation - no matter what the truth is - or is not. I hope this is not a big distraction that turns focus in the wrong direction. Hopefully - there is enough level heads behind closed doors to sort all out.

The powers that be need to have an honest conversation with all involved and only make moves that benefit the program and App state!

[appgrad95&97]

Whether he should be or not, Gillin is absolutely safe.

[Tru2ASU]

So, back to the topic. Who then?

[CharlotteApp05]

Sounds like best case scenario that is not going to happen, given what Stonewall just said is:

Clark, Sloan and Ponce remain and we hire Elliott as Coach in waiting for 1 year similar to what we did with Satterfield.

Most likely scenario: We win USM and maybe 1-2 more, Clark comes back.

Worst case scenario: We win/lose USM and win no additional games and Clark comes back.

[The Rock]

Sounds like best case scenario that is not going to happen, given what Stonewall just said is:

Clark, Sloan and Ponce remain and we hire Elliott as Coach in waiting for 1 year similar to what we did with Satterfield.

Most likely scenario: We win USM and maybe 1-2 more, Clark comes back.

Worst case scenario: We win/lose USM and win no additional games and Clark comes back.

so in that scenario Elliott leaves GS as HC to be a position coach or analyst here for a year??? Who takes over at GSU? DO they retain his staff? Are they going to wait around for a year to reunite with elliott or is he starting from scratch and this becomes a multi year rebuild like he had at GS? Very plausible.

[Tru2ASU]

You have to be the biggest homer ever to believe that Shawn Elliott story.

[CharlotteApp05]

Ha I think y’all missed my point. Based on what seems to be latest tea leaves, the best/worst case is exactly the same as we have now.

And for those who don’t love the Elliott idea, I actually am a fan, but you will HATE the reason why.

I loved him as a coach while I was on the team at App.

An offensive line coach!

[appgrad95&97]

I have heard things that suggest the powers that be are not nearly as close to the edge as the majority of the fanbase. With both coordinators having guaranteed two year deals, I am beginning to believe that nothing is going to be done this year regardless of the record.

I don't know when you got your information. It was the same as mine. But Saturday may have changed things.

It was after Saturday.

This one seems to have his fscts straight.

[AppStFan1]

Sounds like best case scenario that is not going to happen, given what Stonewall just said is:

Clark, Sloan and Ponce remain and we hire Elliott as Coach in waiting for 1 year similar to what we did with Satterfield.

Most likely scenario: We win USM and maybe 1-2 more, Clark comes back.

Worst case scenario: We win/lose USM and win no additional games and Clark comes back.

Elliott would 100% leave to be our HC but he is not giving up his current job to be an analyst or HC in waiting. There is no way that would happen.