2019 was an aberration, no injuries, weak schedule, one of those perfect seasons once every 15-20 years.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:19 pmThis should never have been the conversation. We are so far from where we were in 2019. So much that was built has crumbled.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:08 pmAs much as I don't like our won/loss record and current conference standing, SC will finish the year and likely be back next due to the finacials involved.
I don't think, or at least I am not aware of, there's a sport where coaching matters more.
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DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:45 am2019 was an aberration, no injuries, weak schedule, one of those perfect seasons once every 15-20 years.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:19 pmThis should never have been the conversation. We are so far from where we were in 2019. So much that was built has crumbled.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:08 pmAs much as I don't like our won/loss record and current conference standing, SC will finish the year and likely be back next due to the finacials involved.
I don't think, or at least I am not aware of, there's a sport where coaching matters more.
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It's easy to pick apart any season. The 2019 season was great even with the terrible loss on Halloween. That being said I tend to agree. The opponents as a whole were not that great. We had some terrible conference teams (way better now). Our defense played pretty good all season but if I'm not mistaken didn't we have 2 running threads devoted to firing Ted Roof? NC and SC were not good and we had to absolutely hold on to beat both. We gave up a bunch of points in several games but the one thing we did that has gone away was that we beat the crap out of several teams. Other than FCS we simply don't lay the wood anymore.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:45 am2019 was an aberration, no injuries, weak schedule, one of those perfect seasons once every 15-20 years.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:19 pmThis should never have been the conversation. We are so far from where we were in 2019. So much that was built has crumbled.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:08 pmAs much as I don't like our won/loss record and current conference standing, SC will finish the year and likely be back next due to the finacials involved.
I don't think, or at least I am not aware of, there's a sport where coaching matters more.
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Okay. The 2018 season wasn't bad either.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:45 am2019 was an aberration, no injuries, weak schedule, one of those perfect seasons once every 15-20 years.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:19 pmThis should never have been the conversation. We are so far from where we were in 2019. So much that was built has crumbled.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:08 pmAs much as I don't like our won/loss record and current conference standing, SC will finish the year and likely be back next due to the finacials involved.
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The only thing about 2019 that was an aberration was the loss to GS. That was a good team on both sides of the ball and there is no reason to discount their performance. My personal opinion is that we have the talent to compete with that team in most positions, with the exception of the defensive secondary. This year has been frustrating and disappointing. I support Clark, but at this point it's hard to see a season that makes me "happy." Winning out with a bowl win would put us about where I thought we would be, but certainly not the path I would have predicted. I still believe we can beat any team on our schedule, but we will have to play better than we have in our first 7. That's the frustration. To use Saban's concept, we haven't been beaten yet this year but we keep losing. App has beaten App 4 times so far. Personally, I find it easier to take if we get beat than when we under-perform.
I have my game day attire on and will be pulling hard for the Apps today. A solid performance will go a long way towards getting this team over the proverbial hump. Think 2014 win over Troy. Winning out would be an amazing accomplishment but not really realistic at this point. I'll still go into every game believing we should win. That's why I don't pick in the prediction threads.
I have my game day attire on and will be pulling hard for the Apps today. A solid performance will go a long way towards getting this team over the proverbial hump. Think 2014 win over Troy. Winning out would be an amazing accomplishment but not really realistic at this point. I'll still go into every game believing we should win. That's why I don't pick in the prediction threads.
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I respectfully disagree on the talent level. Our OL is suspect other than Helms and Bucky. Our DL will be good. Too young and undisciplined at the moment...making big plays from time to time..but losing containment all too often. I really like what our DL will be...and could be the best we have had in a long long time...just not there yet. Our LBs play fast but sometimes out of position. At running back, WR and TE, we are very good ..just wish our OC was more creative. There has to be more than one route, that a WR with the best hand since sutton, can get more involved...and, yes, some of that is on the WR...Just my opinion.
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Roof is good enough to currently be the D coordinator at Oklahoma.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:23 amIt's easy to pick apart any season. The 2019 season was great even with the terrible loss on Halloween. That being said I tend to agree. The opponents as a whole were not that great. We had some terrible conference teams (way better now). Our defense played pretty good all season but if I'm not mistaken didn't we have 2 running threads devoted to firing Ted Roof? NC and SC were not good and we had to absolutely hold on to beat both. We gave up a bunch of points in several games but the one thing we did that has gone away was that we beat the crap out of several teams. Other than FCS we simply don't lay the wood anymore.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:45 am2019 was an aberration, no injuries, weak schedule, one of those perfect seasons once every 15-20 years.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:19 pmThis should never have been the conversation. We are so far from where we were in 2019. So much that was built has crumbled.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:08 pmAs much as I don't like our won/loss record and current conference standing, SC will finish the year and likely be back next due to the finacials involved.
Ted Roof wasn't good enough for us but somehow is good enough to be working as a D coordinator at Oklahoma for Mr. Defense Brent Venables.
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Not a normal year but that 2019 team was the best team we ever had. I will say Drink was suppose to do what he did though because we were loaded. A lot of players got drafted and signed from that roster. SBC is stronger now but ULL was good, UAB was good, and we beat 2 P5s on the road. One of those P5s won their bowl game. SC had a losing record but that schedule was brutal. We probably go 6-6 or 7-5 with that schedule. SC actually beat UGA that year but couldn’t beat us.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:45 am2019 was an aberration, no injuries, weak schedule, one of those perfect seasons once every 15-20 years.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:19 pmThis should never have been the conversation. We are so far from where we were in 2019. So much that was built has crumbled.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:08 pmAs much as I don't like our won/loss record and current conference standing, SC will finish the year and likely be back next due to the finacials involved.
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This is not meant to trash on Roof but just being there isn’t reason alone. With that said, they have the best defense in Big 12 giving up just 16.1ppg. He has them looking very good.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:31 amRoof is good enough to currently be the D coordinator at Oklahoma.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:23 amIt's easy to pick apart any season. The 2019 season was great even with the terrible loss on Halloween. That being said I tend to agree. The opponents as a whole were not that great. We had some terrible conference teams (way better now). Our defense played pretty good all season but if I'm not mistaken didn't we have 2 running threads devoted to firing Ted Roof? NC and SC were not good and we had to absolutely hold on to beat both. We gave up a bunch of points in several games but the one thing we did that has gone away was that we beat the crap out of several teams. Other than FCS we simply don't lay the wood anymore.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:45 am2019 was an aberration, no injuries, weak schedule, one of those perfect seasons once every 15-20 years.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:19 pmThis should never have been the conversation. We are so far from where we were in 2019. So much that was built has crumbled.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:08 pm
As much as I don't like our won/loss record and current conference standing, SC will finish the year and likely be back next due to the finacials involved.
Ted Roof wasn't good enough for us but somehow is good enough to be working as a D coordinator at Oklahoma for Mr. Defense Brent Venables.
I don't think, or at least I am not aware of, there's a sport where coaching matters more.
I know when he was here they made some adjustments with him after the first couple games because we looked shaky but then the defense settled in and was great. One thing that has me concerned with our defense is that I remember that in 2019 but it didn’t take us quite this long. We saw improvements a much earlier than now. I am hoping we see major improvement starting today that lasts the rest of the year.
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There was a lot of reason why Roof was catching heat early on in his tenure here, most of it behind the scenes. He started trusting his veteran leadership in the locker room and pivoted off his stubbornness and the rest is history. Drink also came in with the mindset to keep the drama to a minimal and play game/clock control and unlike our current regime, he did it masterfully. Like him or not, he managed a team.he didn't have a long history with in a way that he knew would work.
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Another troll / bait post. No way you actually believe the stuff you post.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:45 am2019 was an aberration, no injuries, weak schedule, one of those perfect seasons once every 15-20 years.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:19 pmThis should never have been the conversation. We are so far from where we were in 2019. So much that was built has crumbled.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:08 pmAs much as I don't like our won/loss record and current conference standing, SC will finish the year and likely be back next due to the finacials involved.
I don't think, or at least I am not aware of, there's a sport where coaching matters more.
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Worst set of DB's and WR"s in uniforms since we went to FBS.
Drop passes, and dropped INT's - #19 how is he a FBS DB and drops a sure fire wide open INT.... still getting beat deep. (still early tho 7-7)
I got 2nd graders on flag football team that make that catch.
3rd and 1 on run up middle stuffed.... Ponce has been a disappointment, maybe Miami ran him out. he's making #TeamClark look bad.
Drop passes, and dropped INT's - #19 how is he a FBS DB and drops a sure fire wide open INT.... still getting beat deep. (still early tho 7-7)
I got 2nd graders on flag football team that make that catch.
3rd and 1 on run up middle stuffed.... Ponce has been a disappointment, maybe Miami ran him out. he's making #TeamClark look bad.
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Bullshit. A former OL coach called that. Get him back to coaching OLDenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:29 pmWorst set of DB's and WR"s in uniforms since we went to FBS.
Drop passes, and dropped INT's - #19 how is he a FBS DB and drops a sure fire wide open INT.... still getting beat deep. (still early tho 7-7)
I got 2nd graders on flag football team that make that catch.
3rd and 1 on run up middle stuffed.... Ponce has been a disappointment, maybe Miami ran him out. he's making #TeamClark look bad.
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I was under the impression that he bailed when he knew he would not be OC but did not know if that meant he was pushed out or not.DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:29 pmWorst set of DB's and WR"s in uniforms since we went to FBS.
Drop passes, and dropped INT's - #19 how is he a FBS DB and drops a sure fire wide open INT.... still getting beat deep. (still early tho 7-7)
I got 2nd graders on flag football team that make that catch.
3rd and 1 on run up middle stuffed.... Ponce has been a disappointment, maybe Miami ran him out. he's making #TeamClark look bad.
We have some talent but these DBs are making so many mistakes. A lot of drops for sure. Poor tackling. I am seeing some good stuff at times but way too much bad stuff.
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I know a real high booster at Miami that said Ponce was pushed outDenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:29 pmWorst set of DB's and WR"s in uniforms since we went to FBS.
Drop passes, and dropped INT's - #19 how is he a FBS DB and drops a sure fire wide open INT.... still getting beat deep. (still early tho 7-7)
I got 2nd graders on flag football team that make that catch.
3rd and 1 on run up middle stuffed.... Ponce has been a disappointment, maybe Miami ran him out. he's making #TeamClark look bad.
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Interesting. The story told on our end was that he was not going to be OC and instead of just being QB coach he wanted to be our OC. If that is true, I wonder why they were pushing him out? He was not the play-caller.PhillyApp1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:44 pmI know a real high booster at Miami that said Ponce was pushed outDenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:29 pmWorst set of DB's and WR"s in uniforms since we went to FBS.
Drop passes, and dropped INT's - #19 how is he a FBS DB and drops a sure fire wide open INT.... still getting beat deep. (still early tho 7-7)
I got 2nd graders on flag football team that make that catch.
3rd and 1 on run up middle stuffed.... Ponce has been a disappointment, maybe Miami ran him out. he's making #TeamClark look bad.
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Head coach didn't think he was up to the task.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:05 pmInteresting. The story told on our end was that he was not going to be OC and instead of just being QB coach he wanted to be our OC. If that is true, I wonder why they were pushing him out? He was not the play-caller.PhillyApp1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:44 pmI know a real high booster at Miami that said Ponce was pushed outDenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:29 pmWorst set of DB's and WR"s in uniforms since we went to FBS.
Drop passes, and dropped INT's - #19 how is he a FBS DB and drops a sure fire wide open INT.... still getting beat deep. (still early tho 7-7)
I got 2nd graders on flag football team that make that catch.
3rd and 1 on run up middle stuffed.... Ponce has been a disappointment, maybe Miami ran him out. he's making #TeamClark look bad.
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