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SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by appstatealum » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:05 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:02 pm
I get that it is great that we went on a 5 game win streak.

We still only won 8 games and got completely obliterated to end it.

It’s not all death and destruction but it’s also not all puppies and rainbows either.

Next year it’s put up or shut up time, and everyone knows it.
This is exactly my thoughts. Let's run it back (hopefully with some of the same key guys and better recruits in the trenches) and see what happens.

Ps- still not a Ponce fan and he did little to change that today.
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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by yosef69 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:08 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:05 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:02 pm
I get that it is great that we went on a 5 game win streak.

We still only won 8 games and got completely obliterated to end it.

It’s not all death and destruction but it’s also not all puppies and rainbows either.

Next year it’s put up or shut up time, and everyone knows it.
This is exactly my thoughts. Let's run it back (hopefully with some of the same key guys and better recruits in the trenches) and see what happens.

Ps- still not a Ponce fan and he did little to change that today.
Didn’t feel like ponce had full reign to me today. Felt like a lineman calling plays.

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:08 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:00 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:50 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:45 pm
I know this has become cliché but some of y’all on here are ridiculous. App just came off a 5 game win streak, beat a ranked opponent, and skull dragged their primary rival, but App “needs a refresh.”
You know what? It’s not even ridiculous. It’s stupid. It’s ignorant. It shows that you simply have no idea how team sports work. The other team recruits and practices and lifts and plans too. Sometimes they do it better than you. As others have pointed out, App made mistakes and Troy, because they are a great team, took advantage of every one of those mistakes. It happens sometimes. If y’all know so damn much, go coach football. Show us how smart you really are.
8-5
Context matters. 8-5 with a win over a ranked opponent, our rival, and the 5th loss was in the conference championship. Most teams only get to play 12 games. App will play 14.

You contribute nothing to this board but negativity ONLY when App loses. You’re either a troll, miserable, or both. Do us all a favor and go away.
It’s a message board with different opinions. If you think the last two years have been acceptable maybe you should go away.

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by yosef69 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:10 pm

Pikapp79 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:08 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:00 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:50 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:45 pm
I know this has become cliché but some of y’all on here are ridiculous. App just came off a 5 game win streak, beat a ranked opponent, and skull dragged their primary rival, but App “needs a refresh.”
You know what? It’s not even ridiculous. It’s stupid. It’s ignorant. It shows that you simply have no idea how team sports work. The other team recruits and practices and lifts and plans too. Sometimes they do it better than you. As others have pointed out, App made mistakes and Troy, because they are a great team, took advantage of every one of those mistakes. It happens sometimes. If y’all know so damn much, go coach football. Show us how smart you really are.
8-5
Context matters. 8-5 with a win over a ranked opponent, our rival, and the 5th loss was in the conference championship. Most teams only get to play 12 games. App will play 14.

You contribute nothing to this board but negativity ONLY when App loses. You’re either a troll, miserable, or both. Do us all a favor and go away.
It’s a message board with different opinions. If you think the last two years have been acceptable maybe you should go away.
In my opinion 8-5 is never good enough here.

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by CoachRob » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:11 pm

Pikapp79 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:50 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:45 pm
I know this has become cliché but some of y’all on here are ridiculous. App just came off a 5 game win streak, beat a ranked opponent, and skull dragged their primary rival, but App “needs a refresh.”
You know what? It’s not even ridiculous. It’s stupid. It’s ignorant. It shows that you simply have no idea how team sports work. The other team recruits and practices and lifts and plans too. Sometimes they do it better than you. As others have pointed out, App made mistakes and Troy, because they are a great team, took advantage of every one of those mistakes. It happens sometimes. If y’all know so damn much, go coach football. Show us how smart you really are.
8-5
Improvement from 6-6, yes?

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:11 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:10 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:08 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:00 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:50 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:45 pm
I know this has become cliché but some of y’all on here are ridiculous. App just came off a 5 game win streak, beat a ranked opponent, and skull dragged their primary rival, but App “needs a refresh.”
You know what? It’s not even ridiculous. It’s stupid. It’s ignorant. It shows that you simply have no idea how team sports work. The other team recruits and practices and lifts and plans too. Sometimes they do it better than you. As others have pointed out, App made mistakes and Troy, because they are a great team, took advantage of every one of those mistakes. It happens sometimes. If y’all know so damn much, go coach football. Show us how smart you really are.
8-5
Context matters. 8-5 with a win over a ranked opponent, our rival, and the 5th loss was in the conference championship. Most teams only get to play 12 games. App will play 14.

You contribute nothing to this board but negativity ONLY when App loses. You’re either a troll, miserable, or both. Do us all a favor and go away.
It’s a message board with different opinions. If you think the last two years have been acceptable maybe you should go away.
In my opinion 8-5 is never good enough here.
Be careful or you will be labeled negative or a troll. :)

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:13 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:05 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:02 pm
I get that it is great that we went on a 5 game win streak.

We still only won 8 games and got completely obliterated to end it.

It’s not all death and destruction but it’s also not all puppies and rainbows either.

Next year it’s put up or shut up time, and everyone knows it.
This is exactly my thoughts. Let's run it back (hopefully with some of the same key guys and better recruits in the trenches) and see what happens.

Ps- still not a Ponce fan and he did little to change that today.
Agreed. They seemed to pick up some of our signals but we were too predictable. I believe in Sloan big time though and believe if we can keep the team together we win big. 8-5 does not make me happy but I never expected to win the title and would like to see what we can do next year with the late season improvements. I believe CCU, JMU, and Troy will take steps back with a lot of changes and we can take a big step forward.
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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by BeauFoster » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:13 pm

Seems like our d ran out of gas pretty early, which tells me we’re still thin there. Not really a surprise given how young we are in places. We’ve got some holes to fill, and will probably have more with the portal. Overall I thought we were better than the score indicated, but make no mistake, we were easily beaten. Their lines were better in every way.

That said, in the last championship game, we were never in it from moment 1. This game was different, we were good enough to win, but had to be perfect, which we weren’t. I think it’s possible to get better in the offseason, but our staff has to be better. I’m not 100% sold they can get us there, but I’m more sold today than I was 6 weeks ago.
Give 'em hell!

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:16 pm

A lot depends on who departs to greener pastures (both coaches and players) and who you pick up in the portal. Teams can change dramatically in today's college game.

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by AppRT » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:19 pm

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:59 pm
Troy was the better team and bitch slapped us today. Can't that simply be the truth?
Troy was the better team. That’s why we lost. Coaching is the reason we lost as badly as we did.

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by MAD Doctor » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:25 pm

Competed until the 4th quarter, and then collapsed.
Headscratcher of a season. Let’s wrap it up with a bowl win, and go hunting for stud linemen.

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:26 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:01 pm
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:59 pm
Troy was the better team and bitch slapped us today. Can't that simply be the truth?
No, you have to use this as a reason to crap on who or whatever you specifically don’t like about App State football /sarcasm/
So we can’t discuss App State football on a message board that really only has one real purpose, discussing App State football.

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:30 pm

Troy is good. For all the focus on the east and JMU, Troy is good. We lost to a better team. We have flaws, which have been obvious for several years. But we are moving in the right direction. We just got beat by a team that is good.

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by AppDub » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:34 pm

teller wrote:
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While JA aka Joey California has performed well, I think it’s time to move on.
Joking right?

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by MrCraig » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:35 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:26 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:01 pm
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:59 pm
Troy was the better team and bitch slapped us today. Can't that simply be the truth?
No, you have to use this as a reason to crap on who or whatever you specifically don’t like about App State football /sarcasm/
So we can’t discuss App State football on a message board that really only has one real purpose, discussing App State football.
You can discuss App all you want here. But you, Pikapp and yosef69 don’t discuss. You lay dormant until something goes wrong so you can jump up, beat your chest, and say you were right- the coaching staff sucks. And none of you come with any facts. Y’all just say stuff like “this isn’t acceptable”
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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by yosef69 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:36 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:35 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:26 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:01 pm
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:59 pm
Troy was the better team and bitch slapped us today. Can't that simply be the truth?
No, you have to use this as a reason to crap on who or whatever you specifically don’t like about App State football /sarcasm/
So we can’t discuss App State football on a message board that really only has one real purpose, discussing App State football.
You can discuss App all you want here. But you, Pikapp and Appstate69 don’t discuss. You lay dormant until something goes wrong so you can jump up, beat your chest, and say you were right- the coaching staff sucks. And none of you come with any facts. Y’all just say stuff like “this isn’t acceptable”
Forgot on a message board I need to be publishing peer reviewed papers with sources. I’m so sorry Mr football professor please forgive me.

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by Yosefus » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:37 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:08 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:05 pm
yosef69 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:02 pm
I get that it is great that we went on a 5 game win streak.

We still only won 8 games and got completely obliterated to end it.

It’s not all death and destruction but it’s also not all puppies and rainbows either.

Next year it’s put up or shut up time, and everyone knows it.
This is exactly my thoughts. Let's run it back (hopefully with some of the same key guys and better recruits in the trenches) and see what happens.

Ps- still not a Ponce fan and he did little to change that today.
Didn’t feel like ponce had full reign to me today. Felt like a lineman calling plays.
There were some plays very reminiscent of last season for sure. We ran up the middle more today than all season combined and it wasn't there.

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by hapapp » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:37 pm

We have three OL that made an SBC all league team. Not sure it’s our entire line that’s the issue. But their OL certainly fared better against our DL than the reverse. Our speed played a huge role in our success over the last five weeks. Tonight we were overwhelmed by their size.

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by CoachRob » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:38 pm

AppRT wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:19 pm
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:59 pm
Troy was the better team and bitch slapped us today. Can't that simply be the truth?
Troy was the better team. That’s why we lost. Coaching is the reason we lost as badly as we did.
Yea, that strip fumble sack returned for a TD was totally on Clark & Ponce ... he should have ran the ball there. :roll:

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Re: SBC Championship Game at Troy discussion

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:38 pm

yosef69 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:36 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:35 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:26 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:01 pm
Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:59 pm
Troy was the better team and bitch slapped us today. Can't that simply be the truth?
No, you have to use this as a reason to crap on who or whatever you specifically don’t like about App State football /sarcasm/
So we can’t discuss App State football on a message board that really only has one real purpose, discussing App State football.
You can discuss App all you want here. But you, Pikapp and Appstate69 don’t discuss. You lay dormant until something goes wrong so you can jump up, beat your chest, and say you were right- the coaching staff sucks. And none of you come with any facts. Y’all just say stuff like “this isn’t acceptable”
Forgot on a message board I need to be publishing peer reviewed papers with sources. I’m so sorry Mr football professor please forgive me.
Haha

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