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Includes all “P5” teams, with ND and newly added SMU to round out 7 divisions of 10 teams. The 8th division would be the top 10 G5 programs who could be relegated each season. Non-football sports would remain in their current conference.

moonshine wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:08 pm

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Includes all “P5” teams, with ND and newly added SMU to round out 7 divisions of 10 teams. The 8th division would be the top 10 G5 programs who could be relegated each season. Non-football sports would remain in their current conference.

Not opposed to the concept but absolutely opposed to it only applying to the G5 and others not labeled P5. Why should bottom feeders be grandfathered into protected status?

Relegate all programs by geography. Five conferences of 12 based upon traditional P5 lines, five G5 conferences, and every year the bottom/top 2 flip. It would make every game in November so much fun.

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Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:19 am

moonshine wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:08 pm

https://www.collegefootballdawgs.com/p ... per-league

Includes all “P5” teams, with ND and newly added SMU to round out 7 divisions of 10 teams. The 8th division would be the top 10 G5 programs who could be relegated each season. Non-football sports would remain in their current conference.

Not opposed to the concept but absolutely opposed to it only applying to the G5 and others not labeled P5. Why should bottom feeders be grandfathered into protected status?

I am with you. If you want true relegation then everyone has an equal shot at relegation and promotion.

Saint3333 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:28 am

Relegate all programs by geography. Five conferences of 12 based upon traditional P5 lines, five G5 conferences, and every year the bottom/top 2 flip. It would make every game in November so much fun.

So you are suggesting a partnership with say the SEC and SBC and a MAC with BIG situation?

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Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:49 am

Saint3333 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:28 am

Relegate all programs by geography. Five conferences of 12 based upon traditional P5 lines, five G5 conferences, and every year the bottom/top 2 flip. It would make every game in November so much fun.

So you are suggesting a partnership with say the SEC and SBC and a MAC with BIG situation?

Correct. The bottom half of the P5 programs would never go for it. But it would be fun. Imagine SC getting regulated down for CCU or Michigan St. for Western Michigan, popcorn worthy.

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Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:04 am

AppSt94 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:49 am

Saint3333 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:28 am

Relegate all programs by geography. Five conferences of 12 based upon traditional P5 lines, five G5 conferences, and every year the bottom/top 2 flip. It would make every game in November so much fun.

So you are suggesting a partnership with say the SEC and SBC and a MAC with BIG situation?

Correct. The bottom half of the P5 programs would never go for it. But it would be fun. Imagine SC getting regulated down for CCU or Michigan St. for Western Michigan, popcorn worthy.

I think that it is the only system that would work. Only having 9 true conferences now creates an obstacle that would need to be overcome.

I have a lot of questions on how this would work but also are the solutions to problems more short term or long term fixes.

It would literally take an act of congress for something like that to form, the powers (really the top two conferences) have a straggle hold on the sport for the foreseeable future.

Fun to discuss at a bar or message board, but that's the extent of it.

Saint3333 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:46 am

It would literally take an act of congress for something like that to form, the powers (really the top two conferences) have a straggle hold on the sport for the foreseeable future.

Fun to discuss at a bar or message board, but that's the extent of it.

Unfortunately, I think Saint is right on this one....not going to happen without an act of congress.

Relating it to the EPL...many of the players in the EPL have a relegation clause in their contract which basically states if their club is relegated down to the Championship League, then they have the right to seek a new team. I could see the same thing happening in this format with how open the transfer portal has become. You'd see a huge number of players hit the transfer portal once it was clear their team would be looking at relegation.

This would also make scheduling into the future pretty.much impossible.

It is a fun discussion topic though, and as a fan of a G5 team (As we all are) if it were a realistic possibility I'd love to see it.

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:42 am

Relating it to the EPL...many of the players in the EPL have a relegation clause in their contract which basically states if their club is relegated down to the Championship League, then they have the right to seek a new team. I could see the same thing happening in this format with how open the transfer portal has become. You'd see a huge number of players hit the transfer portal once it was clear their team would be looking at relegation.

This would also make scheduling into the future pretty.much impossible.

It is a fun discussion topic though, and as a fan of a G5 team (As we all are) if it were a realistic possibility I'd love to see it.

I imagine scheduling would follow the same format as the NFL is that the schedule is made based on the slot occupied in the standings. Say Team #1 plays 3,5,7,9 on the road and 2,4,6,8 and 10 at home.

moonshine wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:08 pm

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Includes all “P5” teams, with ND and newly added SMU to round out 7 divisions of 10 teams. The 8th division would be the top 10 G5 programs who could be relegated each season. Non-football sports would remain in their current conference.

I am supportive of this idea in principle but highly skeptical in practice of this particular arrangement. A relegation scheme that theoretically (though not realistically) allowed teams to move from the very top to the very bottom over a number of years and vis versa is one I highly support.

I also like the idea of conference alignments for other sports not corresponding to football alignments. If non-football college athletics is going to survive this upheaval, they must be separated.

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App Football is life.

the idea started strong but ended poorly when they said only the 10 G5 schools have a chance at relegation. Everyone, including, Bama, should have the chance at being relegated if they're bad enough.

I read an article similar to this. I wish I could remember where. It divided CFB into 40 team levels. Each level had 4 10 team divisions. The bottom 8 would drop down and the top 8 would move up. Each level would have a playoff of 12 teams. If Team 9-12 won the playoff, they replaced team 8 in the move up. You guys would laugh at the original break down of levels. It was based on several things (record, years in FBS and others). I think there were a couple of MAC teams in top level. We were in the 3 level to start. My understanding was all of division one was done this way (FBS and FCS). Of course, this would mean everyone would have to have the same # of scholarships.

If anyone finds this article, please post. Interesting concept.

This all sounds nice

But the SEC didn't throw FBS into F lux to have things fair.... they want their own sandbox designed for the exclusive 10 to win perennially and rake up billions.

If only life was fair????

F the SEC !!!!