appstatealum wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 26, 2024 9:05 pm

So, I read a lot of the 'hate' Liberty receives from us AppSt brethren, but....
Unpopular opinion incoming, and it is a lengthy read, but may be worth it to some- I started my grad school this January at....you guessed it....Liberty University. It was the only University that offered the specific program I wanted to take with mainly online classes. Ironically, App State was the only regional school near me offering it, which was my first choice, but due to my career/kid situation, driving to Boone 4 days per week from Charlotte was not an option. My other options were ACTUAL diploma mills like Capella etc. No thanks. I had my reservations about Liberty for many of the reasons we all joke about, and while I am a strong Christian, I am not a fan of the Falwells, or any 'popular' evangelicals in that realm- most are not representative of the Christ I know. Nevertheless, I work within the fortune 500 corporate world and work directly with many Universities as well, and Liberty seemed to be the best option.
I am studying for a historically very liberal degree and one that is highly regulated for ethics/bias etc. Almost a year in, I can see why Liberty is a popular option for online studies. Their systems, support, deans and admin are phenomenol. Politics, overt evangelical bias, homophobia or any other terms we have slapped them with are non-existent. Sorry to ruin it for us. In fact, I've had a stronger balance of Professors who I felt like were "middle ground" than I remember experiencing at App many moons ago. Politics or biases are non-existent. I can't speak for campus students or any other degree programs, but every interaction I've had with folks all the way up to the Dean of my department are well versed, have high level credentials/resumes, and are incredibly professional. My program rubrics have mirrored almost all.other universities I've seen verbatim, but actually even requiring additional courses to fit state licensure requirements better.
Any way. With that said, I wouldn't be caught dead rooting for Liberty and I hope we crush them. My alma-mater is and always will be AppSt. I hated not being able to do grad school through App, so does my wallet. I told the App State Dean that begged me to attend that they needed to extend options to Hickory and I would've been all over it.

AppDub wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:23 am

appstatealum wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 26, 2024 9:05 pm

So, I read a lot of the 'hate' Liberty receives from us AppSt brethren, but....
Unpopular opinion incoming, and it is a lengthy read, but may be worth it to some- I started my grad school this January at....you guessed it....Liberty University. It was the only University that offered the specific program I wanted to take with mainly online classes. Ironically, App State was the only regional school near me offering it, which was my first choice, but due to my career/kid situation, driving to Boone 4 days per week from Charlotte was not an option. My other options were ACTUAL diploma mills like Capella etc. No thanks. I had my reservations about Liberty for many of the reasons we all joke about, and while I am a strong Christian, I am not a fan of the Falwells, or any 'popular' evangelicals in that realm- most are not representative of the Christ I know. Nevertheless, I work within the fortune 500 corporate world and work directly with many Universities as well, and Liberty seemed to be the best option.
I am studying for a historically very liberal degree and one that is highly regulated for ethics/bias etc. Almost a year in, I can see why Liberty is a popular option for online studies. Their systems, support, deans and admin are phenomenol. Politics, overt evangelical bias, homophobia or any other terms we have slapped them with are non-existent. Sorry to ruin it for us. In fact, I've had a stronger balance of Professors who I felt like were "middle ground" than I remember experiencing at App many moons ago. Politics or biases are non-existent. I can't speak for campus students or any other degree programs, but every interaction I've had with folks all the way up to the Dean of my department are well versed, have high level credentials/resumes, and are incredibly professional. My program rubrics have mirrored almost all.other universities I've seen verbatim, but actually even requiring additional courses to fit state licensure requirements better.
Any way. With that said, I wouldn't be caught dead rooting for Liberty and I hope we crush them. My alma-mater is and always will be AppSt. I hated not being able to do grad school through App, so does my wallet. I told the App State Dean that begged me to attend that they needed to extend options to Hickory and I would've been all over it.

Not an unpopular post with me at all. I appreciate you speaking to the faith aspect unashamedly and giving a well thought out review of Liberty. I am in the same camp. I know a ton of devoted Christians who have gone to LU and had a great experience. Yep, Falwell Jr. was a turd in the punch bowl, but that's him individually. There are good people that went and go there, same as at App. You never hear anyone bashing BYU for being the Mormon School or Notre Dame for being the Catholic School. The Liberty hate is unnecessary. Disliking Jamie Chadwell is perfectly fine though.

Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:50 am

AppDub wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:23 am

appstatealum wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 26, 2024 9:05 pm

So, I read a lot of the 'hate' Liberty receives from us AppSt brethren, but....
Unpopular opinion incoming, and it is a lengthy read, but may be worth it to some- I started my grad school this January at....you guessed it....Liberty University. It was the only University that offered the specific program I wanted to take with mainly online classes. Ironically, App State was the only regional school near me offering it, which was my first choice, but due to my career/kid situation, driving to Boone 4 days per week from Charlotte was not an option. My other options were ACTUAL diploma mills like Capella etc. No thanks. I had my reservations about Liberty for many of the reasons we all joke about, and while I am a strong Christian, I am not a fan of the Falwells, or any 'popular' evangelicals in that realm- most are not representative of the Christ I know. Nevertheless, I work within the fortune 500 corporate world and work directly with many Universities as well, and Liberty seemed to be the best option.
I am studying for a historically very liberal degree and one that is highly regulated for ethics/bias etc. Almost a year in, I can see why Liberty is a popular option for online studies. Their systems, support, deans and admin are phenomenol. Politics, overt evangelical bias, homophobia or any other terms we have slapped them with are non-existent. Sorry to ruin it for us. In fact, I've had a stronger balance of Professors who I felt like were "middle ground" than I remember experiencing at App many moons ago. Politics or biases are non-existent. I can't speak for campus students or any other degree programs, but every interaction I've had with folks all the way up to the Dean of my department are well versed, have high level credentials/resumes, and are incredibly professional. My program rubrics have mirrored almost all.other universities I've seen verbatim, but actually even requiring additional courses to fit state licensure requirements better.
Any way. With that said, I wouldn't be caught dead rooting for Liberty and I hope we crush them. My alma-mater is and always will be AppSt. I hated not being able to do grad school through App, so does my wallet. I told the App State Dean that begged me to attend that they needed to extend options to Hickory and I would've been all over it.

Not an unpopular post with me at all. I appreciate you speaking to the faith aspect unashamedly and giving a well thought out review of Liberty. I am in the same camp. I know a ton of devoted Christians who have gone to LU and had a great experience. Yep, Falwell Jr. was a turd in the punch bowl, but that's him individually. There are good people that went and go there, same as at App. You never hear anyone bashing BYU for being the Mormon School or Notre Dame for being the Catholic School. The Liberty hate is unnecessary. Disliking Jamie Chadwell is perfectly fine though.

I’m with both of you. I know some really good people who graduated from Liberty. Christian institutions will always have flaws and hypocrites, they are populated by people. That said we Christians do have a duty to work hard to make Christian institutions as Christ like as we can.

spacemonkey wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:03 am

Hickory has the potential to solve a lot of App problems. I hope we get the funding to make it a legitimate choice for the west side of the State. Boone is special...but Hickory is practical and they need us and we need them. I really hope we get a medical school in Hickory at some point....This should be our #1 goal as a university. There is not a public university medical school for more than 2/3 of the 9th largest state in the union.

AppDub wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:23 am

appstatealum wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 26, 2024 9:05 pm

So, I read a lot of the 'hate' Liberty receives from us AppSt brethren, but....
Unpopular opinion incoming, and it is a lengthy read, but may be worth it to some- I started my grad school this January at....you guessed it....Liberty University. It was the only University that offered the specific program I wanted to take with mainly online classes. Ironically, App State was the only regional school near me offering it, which was my first choice, but due to my career/kid situation, driving to Boone 4 days per week from Charlotte was not an option. My other options were ACTUAL diploma mills like Capella etc. No thanks. I had my reservations about Liberty for many of the reasons we all joke about, and while I am a strong Christian, I am not a fan of the Falwells, or any 'popular' evangelicals in that realm- most are not representative of the Christ I know. Nevertheless, I work within the fortune 500 corporate world and work directly with many Universities as well, and Liberty seemed to be the best option.
I am studying for a historically very liberal degree and one that is highly regulated for ethics/bias etc. Almost a year in, I can see why Liberty is a popular option for online studies. Their systems, support, deans and admin are phenomenol. Politics, overt evangelical bias, homophobia or any other terms we have slapped them with are non-existent. Sorry to ruin it for us. In fact, I've had a stronger balance of Professors who I felt like were "middle ground" than I remember experiencing at App many moons ago. Politics or biases are non-existent. I can't speak for campus students or any other degree programs, but every interaction I've had with folks all the way up to the Dean of my department are well versed, have high level credentials/resumes, and are incredibly professional. My program rubrics have mirrored almost all.other universities I've seen verbatim, but actually even requiring additional courses to fit state licensure requirements better.
Any way. With that said, I wouldn't be caught dead rooting for Liberty and I hope we crush them. My alma-mater is and always will be AppSt. I hated not being able to do grad school through App, so does my wallet. I told the App State Dean that begged me to attend that they needed to extend options to Hickory and I would've been all over it.

Not an unpopular post with me at all. I appreciate you speaking to the faith aspect unashamedly and giving a well thought out review of Liberty. I am in the same camp. I know a ton of devoted Christians who have gone to LU and had a great experience. Yep, Falwell Jr. was a turd in the punch bowl, but that's him individually. There are good people that went and go there, same as at App. You never hear anyone bashing BYU for being the Mormon School or Notre Dame for being the Catholic School. The Liberty hate is unnecessary. Disliking Jamie Chadwell is perfectly fine though.

BambooRdApp wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 1:14 pm

I guess I am a little different. App was my grad school. I watch all mmy desired App sports (football, baseball and basketball) and barely watch UNCW sports .. although I did attend the CAA basketball tournament since it was in DC area.

ericsaid wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:28 am

You couldn’t have chosen ECU?

appstatealum wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 26, 2024 9:05 pm

So, I read a lot of the 'hate' Liberty receives from us AppSt brethren, but....
Unpopular opinion incoming, and it is a lengthy read, but may be worth it to some- I started my grad school this January at....you guessed it....Liberty University. It was the only University that offered the specific program I wanted to take with mainly online classes. Ironically, App State was the only regional school near me offering it, which was my first choice, but due to my career/kid situation, driving to Boone 4 days per week from Charlotte was not an option. My other options were ACTUAL diploma mills like Capella etc. No thanks. I had my reservations about Liberty for many of the reasons we all joke about, and while I am a strong Christian, I am not a fan of the Falwells, or any 'popular' evangelicals in that realm- most are not representative of the Christ I know. Nevertheless, I work within the fortune 500 corporate world and work directly with many Universities as well, and Liberty seemed to be the best option.
I am studying for a historically very liberal degree and one that is highly regulated for ethics/bias etc. Almost a year in, I can see why Liberty is a popular option for online studies. Their systems, support, deans and admin are phenomenol. Politics, overt evangelical bias, homophobia or any other terms we have slapped them with are non-existent. Sorry to ruin it for us. In fact, I've had a stronger balance of Professors who I felt like were "middle ground" than I remember experiencing at App many moons ago. Politics or biases are non-existent. I can't speak for campus students or any other degree programs, but every interaction I've had with folks all the way up to the Dean of my department are well versed, have high level credentials/resumes, and are incredibly professional. My program rubrics have mirrored almost all.other universities I've seen verbatim, but actually even requiring additional courses to fit state licensure requirements better.
Any way. With that said, I wouldn't be caught dead rooting for Liberty and I hope we crush them. My alma-mater is and always will be AppSt. I hated not being able to do grad school through App, so does my wallet. I told the App State Dean that begged me to attend that they needed to extend options to Hickory and I would've been all over it.

appstatealum wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:38 am

ericsaid wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:28 am

You couldn’t have chosen ECU?

No online option for what I wanted to study.

AppGrad78 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 08, 2024 9:46 pm

Liberty never looked like it was in danger of losing, even in overtime, but the Flames showed they’re not world-beaters either. They also seemed to lose a key tight end to injury late in the game. Sure wish we had a shot at them this season.

hapapp wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:17 am

AppGrad78 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 08, 2024 9:46 pm

Liberty never looked like it was in danger of losing, even in overtime, but the Flames showed they’re not world-beaters either. They also seemed to lose a key tight end to injury late in the game. Sure wish we had a shot at them this season.

The way they run the ball, I fear we couldn't stop them. But, I agree they certainly didn't I look like they among the best of the G5.