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OPINION- Projected 2025 App State Rotation
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:17 pm
by ASUFan4863
Many have asked me about certain players, so I figured I would give MY personal depth chart projection. A lot of it is based on knowledge, but some of it based on MY opinion. This is not meant to be a bible and as we all know, these things will change throughout the year.
The most fluctuations will be at DL and DB. The rotations are interchangeable. Just because a guy is listed third, doesn’t mean they will get less snaps than a guy listed second. Quite frankly, there are a lot of bodies in the secondary with a lot of position interchanges. Apologies if any names are spelled incorrectly.
Qb - Swann, Gillon, Kohl, Wiles
Rb - Dubinon, Keith, Lewis, Alexander
WR - Stroman, Lawson, Mbake
WR - Dozier, Sanchez, Fowles
WR - Barnes, Coleman, Leon
TE - Larkins, Cummings, Hamlett, Acord
LT - J. Ramsey, Funk
LG - Jackson, Sweatt, Scroggs
C - Flowers, Schmo, Sweatt
RG - T. Ramsey, Williams
RT - Poindexter, Burgess
DE - Collins, Mebane, Sandstrom
DT - Manuel, KAV, Farrior
DT - Farmer, Campbell, Porter
DE - Davis, Bakhole, KAV
LB - Willis, Littlejohn, Lane-Owens, Bethea
LB - Phares, Arnholt, Porter, Yurachek
Star - McBurrows, Favors, Robinson
S - McCantos, Burks, Hasz
S - Gamble, Farmer, Fleming
CB - Berchal, Conyer, Sanders
CB - Johnson, Mack, Floyd
Re: OPINION- Projected 2024 App State Rotation
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:34 pm
by BallantyneApp
ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:17 pm
Many have asked me about certain players, so I figured I would give MY personal depth chart projection. A lot of it is based on knowledge, but some of it based on MY opinion. This is not meant to be a bible and as we all know, these things will change throughout the year.
The most fluctuations will be at DL and DB. The rotations are interchangeable. Just because a guy is listed third, doesn’t mean they will get less snaps than a guy listed second. Quite frankly, there are a lot of bodies in the secondary with a lot of position interchanges. Apologies if any names are spelled incorrectly.
Qb - Swann, Gillon, Kohl, Wiles
Rb - Dubinon, Keith, Lewis, Alexander
WR - Stroman, Lawson, Mbake
WR - Dozier, Sanchez, Fowles
WR - Barnes, Coleman, Leon
TE - Larkins, Cummings, Hamlett, Acord
LT - J. Ramsey, Funk
LG - Jackson, Sweatt, Scroggs
C - Flowers, Schmo, Sweatt
RG - T. Ramsey, Williams
RT - Poindexter, Burgess
DE - Collins, Mebane, Sandstrom
DT - Manuel, KAV, Farrior
DT - Farmer, Campbell, Porter
DE - Davis, Bakhole, KAV
LB - Willis, Littlejohn, Lane-Owens, Bethea
LB - Phares, Arnholt, Porter, Yurachek
Star - McBurrows, Favors, Robinson
S - McCantos, Burks, Hasz
S - Gamble, Farmer, Fleming
CB - Berchal, Conyer, Sanders
CB - Johnson, Mack, Floyd
Thanks for the insight. Do you think Robert’s would have been RB1 or RB2 or part of a 1a/1b with dubinion
Re: OPINION- Projected 2024 App State Rotation
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:19 pm
by BUTCH1991
I would definitely put Aguilar as QB1 for 2024
Sorry, couldn't resist
Re: OPINION- Projected 2024 App State Rotation
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:35 pm
by appstate24
ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:17 pm
Many have asked me about certain players, so I figured I would give MY personal depth chart projection. A lot of it is based on knowledge, but some of it based on MY opinion. This is not meant to be a bible and as we all know, these things will change throughout the year.
The most fluctuations will be at DL and DB. The rotations are interchangeable. Just because a guy is listed third, doesn’t mean they will get less snaps than a guy listed second. Quite frankly, there are a lot of bodies in the secondary with a lot of position interchanges. Apologies if any names are spelled incorrectly.
Qb - Swann, Gillon, Kohl, Wiles
Rb - Dubinon, Keith, Lewis, Alexander
WR - Stroman, Lawson, Mbake
WR - Dozier, Sanchez, Fowles
WR - Barnes, Coleman, Leon
TE - Larkins, Cummings, Hamlett, Acord
LT - J. Ramsey, Funk
LG - Jackson, Sweatt, Scroggs
C - Flowers, Schmo, Sweatt
RG - T. Ramsey, Williams
RT - Poindexter, Burgess
DE - Collins, Mebane, Sandstrom
DT - Manuel, KAV, Farrior
DT - Farmer, Campbell, Porter
DE - Davis, Bakhole, KAV
LB - Willis, Littlejohn, Lane-Owens, Bethea
LB - Phares, Arnholt, Porter, Yurachek
Star - McBurrows, Favors, Robinson
S - McCantos, Burks, Hasz
S - Gamble, Farmer, Fleming
CB - Berchal, Conyer, Sanders
CB - Johnson, Mack, Floyd
Thanks for putting this together. I was excited about Mbake when we signed him. Hoping he would be an instant impact.
GO APPS!!
Re: OPINION- Projected 2024 App State Rotation
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:22 pm
by ASUFan4863
I’m not sure why I put 2024. I need to catchup and get with the times
Re: OPINION- Projected 2024 App State Rotation
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:25 pm
by ASUFan4863
BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:34 pm
ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:17 pm
Many have asked me about certain players, so I figured I would give MY personal depth chart projection. A lot of it is based on knowledge, but some of it based on MY opinion. This is not meant to be a bible and as we all know, these things will change throughout the year.
The most fluctuations will be at DL and DB. The rotations are interchangeable. Just because a guy is listed third, doesn’t mean they will get less snaps than a guy listed second. Quite frankly, there are a lot of bodies in the secondary with a lot of position interchanges. Apologies if any names are spelled incorrectly.
Qb - Swann, Gillon, Kohl, Wiles
Rb - Dubinon, Keith, Lewis, Alexander
WR - Stroman, Lawson, Mbake
WR - Dozier, Sanchez, Fowles
WR - Barnes, Coleman, Leon
TE - Larkins, Cummings, Hamlett, Acord
LT - J. Ramsey, Funk
LG - Jackson, Sweatt, Scroggs
C - Flowers, Schmo, Sweatt
RG - T. Ramsey, Williams
RT - Poindexter, Burgess
DE - Collins, Mebane, Sandstrom
DT - Manuel, KAV, Farrior
DT - Farmer, Campbell, Porter
DE - Davis, Bakhole, KAV
LB - Willis, Littlejohn, Lane-Owens, Bethea
LB - Phares, Arnholt, Porter, Yurachek
Star - McBurrows, Favors, Robinson
S - McCantos, Burks, Hasz
S - Gamble, Farmer, Fleming
CB - Berchal, Conyer, Sanders
CB - Johnson, Mack, Floyd
Thanks for the insight. Do you think Robert’s would have been RB1 or RB2 or part of a 1a/1b with dubinion
I think it would have been a 1a/1b. It will be more of a clearly defined RB1 and RB2 now but there are still probably going to be 20-30 carries to players that aren’t RB1 if the run game is as effective as coaches believe it will be.
Re: OPINION- Projected 2025 App State Rotation
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:40 pm
by Mjohn1988
ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:17 pm
Many have asked me about certain players, so I figured I would give MY personal depth chart projection. A lot of it is based on knowledge, but some of it based on MY opinion. This is not meant to be a bible and as we all know, these things will change throughout the year.
The most fluctuations will be at DL and DB. The rotations are interchangeable. Just because a guy is listed third, doesn’t mean they will get less snaps than a guy listed second. Quite frankly, there are a lot of bodies in the secondary with a lot of position interchanges. Apologies if any names are spelled incorrectly.
Qb - Swann, Gillon, Kohl, Wiles
Rb - Dubinon, Keith, Lewis, Alexander
WR - Stroman, Lawson, Mbake
WR - Dozier, Sanchez, Fowles
WR - Barnes, Coleman, Leon
TE - Larkins, Cummings, Hamlett, Acord
LT - J. Ramsey, Funk
LG - Jackson, Sweatt, Scroggs
C - Flowers, Schmo, Sweatt
RG - T. Ramsey, Williams
RT - Poindexter, Burgess
DE - Collins, Mebane, Sandstrom
DT - Manuel, KAV, Farrior
DT - Farmer, Campbell, Porter
DE - Davis, Bakhole, KAV
LB - Willis, Littlejohn, Lane-Owens, Bethea
LB - Phares, Arnholt, Porter, Yurachek
Star - McBurrows, Favors, Robinson
S - McCantos, Burks, Hasz
S - Gamble, Farmer, Fleming
CB - Berchal, Conyer, Sanders
CB - Johnson, Mack, Floyd
And for the first time in a long, long time I don’t really recognize any of these names.
Re: OPINION- Projected 2024 App State Rotation
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:54 pm
by ASUFan4863
appstate24 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:35 pm
ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:17 pm
Many have asked me about certain players, so I figured I would give MY personal depth chart projection. A lot of it is based on knowledge, but some of it based on MY opinion. This is not meant to be a bible and as we all know, these things will change throughout the year.
The most fluctuations will be at DL and DB. The rotations are interchangeable. Just because a guy is listed third, doesn’t mean they will get less snaps than a guy listed second. Quite frankly, there are a lot of bodies in the secondary with a lot of position interchanges. Apologies if any names are spelled incorrectly.
Qb - Swann, Gillon, Kohl, Wiles
Rb - Dubinon, Keith, Lewis, Alexander
WR - Stroman, Lawson, Mbake
WR - Dozier, Sanchez, Fowles
WR - Barnes, Coleman, Leon
TE - Larkins, Cummings, Hamlett, Acord
LT - J. Ramsey, Funk
LG - Jackson, Sweatt, Scroggs
C - Flowers, Schmo, Sweatt
RG - T. Ramsey, Williams
RT - Poindexter, Burgess
DE - Collins, Mebane, Sandstrom
DT - Manuel, KAV, Farrior
DT - Farmer, Campbell, Porter
DE - Davis, Bakhole, KAV
LB - Willis, Littlejohn, Lane-Owens, Bethea
LB - Phares, Arnholt, Porter, Yurachek
Star - McBurrows, Favors, Robinson
S - McCantos, Burks, Hasz
S - Gamble, Farmer, Fleming
CB - Berchal, Conyer, Sanders
CB - Johnson, Mack, Floyd
Thanks for putting this together. I was excited about Mbake when we signed him. Hoping he would be an instant impact.
GO APPS!!
I think he has the talent to be an instant impact player, but so far he has not shown the coaches enough based on what I’ve been told.
Re: OPINION- Projected 2025 App State Rotation
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 9:18 pm
by mountaineerman
This is a weird year. Honestly can’t remember a weirder year. I have know clue what to expect.
Re: OPINION- Projected 2025 App State Rotation
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:26 pm
by ASU3432Mi
Who?
Re: OPINION- Projected 2025 App State Rotation
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:58 am
by AppDub
I think he's referencing Mbake.
Re: OPINION- Projected 2025 App State Rotation
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:15 am
by AppStateFan17
ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:17 pm
Many have asked me about certain players, so I figured I would give MY personal depth chart projection. A lot of it is based on knowledge, but some of it based on MY opinion. This is not meant to be a bible and as we all know, these things will change throughout the year.
The most fluctuations will be at DL and DB. The rotations are interchangeable. Just because a guy is listed third, doesn’t mean they will get less snaps than a guy listed second. Quite frankly, there are a lot of bodies in the secondary with a lot of position interchanges. Apologies if any names are spelled incorrectly.
Qb - Swann, Gillon, Kohl, Wiles
Rb - Dubinon, Keith, Lewis, Alexander
WR - Stroman, Lawson, Mbake
WR - Dozier, Sanchez, Fowles
WR - Barnes, Coleman, Leon
TE - Larkins, Cummings, Hamlett, Acord
LT - J. Ramsey, Funk
LG - Jackson, Sweatt, Scroggs
C - Flowers, Schmo, Sweatt
RG - T. Ramsey, Williams
RT - Poindexter, Burgess
DE - Collins, Mebane, Sandstrom
DT - Manuel, KAV, Farrior
DT - Farmer, Campbell, Porter
DE - Davis, Bakhole, KAV
LB - Willis, Littlejohn, Lane-Owens, Bethea
LB - Phares, Arnholt, Porter, Yurachek
Star - McBurrows, Favors, Robinson
S - McCantos, Burks, Hasz
S - Gamble, Farmer, Fleming
CB - Berchal, Conyer, Sanders
CB - Johnson, Mack, Floyd
Don't see him listed here. Hearing that Matt Wilson is making a serious push to be high up in the depth chart at QB.
Re: OPINION- Projected 2025 App State Rotation
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:05 am
by Parks&RecAPP
AppStateFan17 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:15 am
ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:17 pm
Many have asked me about certain players, so I figured I would give MY personal depth chart projection. A lot of it is based on knowledge, but some of it based on MY opinion. This is not meant to be a bible and as we all know, these things will change throughout the year.
The most fluctuations will be at DL and DB. The rotations are interchangeable. Just because a guy is listed third, doesn’t mean they will get less snaps than a guy listed second. Quite frankly, there are a lot of bodies in the secondary with a lot of position interchanges. Apologies if any names are spelled incorrectly.
Qb - Swann, Gillon, Kohl, Wiles
Rb - Dubinon, Keith, Lewis, Alexander
WR - Stroman, Lawson, Mbake
WR - Dozier, Sanchez, Fowles
WR - Barnes, Coleman, Leon
TE - Larkins, Cummings, Hamlett, Acord
LT - J. Ramsey, Funk
LG - Jackson, Sweatt, Scroggs
C - Flowers, Schmo, Sweatt
RG - T. Ramsey, Williams
RT - Poindexter, Burgess
DE - Collins, Mebane, Sandstrom
DT - Manuel, KAV, Farrior
DT - Farmer, Campbell, Porter
DE - Davis, Bakhole, KAV
LB - Willis, Littlejohn, Lane-Owens, Bethea
LB - Phares, Arnholt, Porter, Yurachek
Star - McBurrows, Favors, Robinson
S - McCantos, Burks, Hasz
S - Gamble, Farmer, Fleming
CB - Berchal, Conyer, Sanders
CB - Johnson, Mack, Floyd
Don't see him listed here. Hearing that Matt Wilson is making a serious push to be high up in the depth chart at QB.
I've been wondering if he'd ever make any impact.
Re: OPINION- Projected 2025 App State Rotation
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:11 am
by ASUFan4863
AppStateFan17 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:15 am
ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:17 pm
Many have asked me about certain players, so I figured I would give MY personal depth chart projection. A lot of it is based on knowledge, but some of it based on MY opinion. This is not meant to be a bible and as we all know, these things will change throughout the year.
The most fluctuations will be at DL and DB. The rotations are interchangeable. Just because a guy is listed third, doesn’t mean they will get less snaps than a guy listed second. Quite frankly, there are a lot of bodies in the secondary with a lot of position interchanges. Apologies if any names are spelled incorrectly.
Qb - Swann, Gillon, Kohl, Wiles
Rb - Dubinon, Keith, Lewis, Alexander
WR - Stroman, Lawson, Mbake
WR - Dozier, Sanchez, Fowles
WR - Barnes, Coleman, Leon
TE - Larkins, Cummings, Hamlett, Acord
LT - J. Ramsey, Funk
LG - Jackson, Sweatt, Scroggs
C - Flowers, Schmo, Sweatt
RG - T. Ramsey, Williams
RT - Poindexter, Burgess
DE - Collins, Mebane, Sandstrom
DT - Manuel, KAV, Farrior
DT - Farmer, Campbell, Porter
DE - Davis, Bakhole, KAV
LB - Willis, Littlejohn, Lane-Owens, Bethea
LB - Phares, Arnholt, Porter, Yurachek
Star - McBurrows, Favors, Robinson
S - McCantos, Burks, Hasz
S - Gamble, Farmer, Fleming
CB - Berchal, Conyer, Sanders
CB - Johnson, Mack, Floyd
Don't see him listed here. Hearing that Matt Wilson is making a serious push to be high up in the depth chart at QB.
I’m not hearing that at the moment. He has the most natural ability of the entire room and it has often been told to me “if he gets his head on right, he will be special”. There is a window of opportunity for every player and I’m not sure if that opportunity will come for him at App if Gillon continues to progress the way he has. There is also another top QB committed for 2026 who fits Loggain’s mold.
Re: OPINION- Projected 2025 App State Rotation
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:17 am
by BallantyneApp
ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:11 am
AppStateFan17 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:15 am
ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:17 pm
Many have asked me about certain players, so I figured I would give MY personal depth chart projection. A lot of it is based on knowledge, but some of it based on MY opinion. This is not meant to be a bible and as we all know, these things will change throughout the year.
The most fluctuations will be at DL and DB. The rotations are interchangeable. Just because a guy is listed third, doesn’t mean they will get less snaps than a guy listed second. Quite frankly, there are a lot of bodies in the secondary with a lot of position interchanges. Apologies if any names are spelled incorrectly.
Qb - Swann, Gillon, Kohl, Wiles
Rb - Dubinon, Keith, Lewis, Alexander
WR - Stroman, Lawson, Mbake
WR - Dozier, Sanchez, Fowles
WR - Barnes, Coleman, Leon
TE - Larkins, Cummings, Hamlett, Acord
LT - J. Ramsey, Funk
LG - Jackson, Sweatt, Scroggs
C - Flowers, Schmo, Sweatt
RG - T. Ramsey, Williams
RT - Poindexter, Burgess
DE - Collins, Mebane, Sandstrom
DT - Manuel, KAV, Farrior
DT - Farmer, Campbell, Porter
DE - Davis, Bakhole, KAV
LB - Willis, Littlejohn, Lane-Owens, Bethea
LB - Phares, Arnholt, Porter, Yurachek
Star - McBurrows, Favors, Robinson
S - McCantos, Burks, Hasz
S - Gamble, Farmer, Fleming
CB - Berchal, Conyer, Sanders
CB - Johnson, Mack, Floyd
Don't see him listed here. Hearing that Matt Wilson is making a serious push to be high up in the depth chart at QB.
I’m not hearing that at the moment. He has the most natural ability of the entire room and it has often been told to me “if he gets his head on right, he will be special”. There is a window of opportunity for every player and I’m not sure if that opportunity will come for him at App if Gillon continues to progress the way he has. There is also another top QB committed for 2026 who fits Loggain’s mold.
one of the nice things about having almost zero to go on is that this feels like the 1st true QB race in a long long time at App. We always had either and entrenched starter or an "heir apparent". 2023 was a good 2 horse race but I think most people assumed Burger was the guy.
Whoever the guy is, between Loggains, Christensen and Higgins (and I assume Riley Watkins although I don't really know anything about him) we have people that can spot and develop QB talent.