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W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:42 am
by YesAppCan

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:27 am
by moehler
I cant remember a positive article written about the program in the last year, I think part of this is the dismissal of Moore, for some reason alot of these "part time hack beat reporters" took offense to him being let go, and are taking a negative attitude towards us, and second, alot of them don't believe we should be moving up, how dare our little program try and compete with the beloved Tar Heels, Wolf Packs etc, in their eyes, we don't know our place, we should just stay in the FCS, play the Cits, Furmans, and WC of the world, and forever stay in the shadows of the ACC schools. Even this article, had more of a negative tone that we don't know what we are doing, than about the positives of beating Elon.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:03 pm
by asu66
Maybe this guy (SHamilton) aspires to achieve the reputation that the ASHEVILLE CITIZEN-TIMES' reporter Keith Jarrett "enjoys" in the 'Whee. If so, he's off to a good start!

He's already earned a top placement on my ignore list!

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:15 pm
by Gonzo
moehler wrote:I cant remember a positive article written about the program in the last year, I think part of this is the dismissal of Moore, for some reason alot of these "part time hack beat reporters" took offense to him being let go, and are taking a negative attitude towards us, and second, alot of them don't believe we should be moving up, how dare our little program try and compete with the beloved Tar Heels, Wolf Packs etc, in their eyes, we don't know our place, we should just stay in the FCS, play the Cits, Furmans, and WC of the world, and forever stay in the shadows of the ACC schools. Even this article, had more of a negative tone that we don't know what we are doing, than about the positives of beating Elon.
Tommy Bownman's article was much more objective. You might be right about the other WSJ sports writers, but I haven't gotten that vibe from Bowman since the FBS announcement and the Moore debacle.

I'm just glad we're still the primary college football team for a paper in a relatively large city/media market. I'd take the quality and frequency of Bowman and the WSJ's coverage over David Scott and that rag in Charlotte any day.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:18 pm
by YesAppCan
Gonz, I gotta agree with you on this one.. Tommy has been very fair and objective with us, especially in the last year.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:26 pm
by firemoose
The only time we get coverage in Charlotte these days, TV or paper, is if something bad happens. Even today the story is a reprint of Bowman's article. Didn't even care enough to have one of their own writers type a story. No mention at all on either WSOC or WBTV. We get more coverage in the market we're not even in than we do in our "home market".

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:45 pm
by moehler
oops, forgot about Tommy, your right, he is pretty much the only one that seems to give us a fair shake, but the rest of them, sorry, I just don't have a lot of respect for their writing abiitly

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:57 pm
by YesAppCan
Moose, Greensboro did the same re-print of Tommy's article... 25 minutes down the road

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:32 pm
by firemoose
YesAppCan wrote:Moose, Greensboro did the same re-print of Tommy's article... 25 minutes down the road
But we're not in the Triad market. We are in the Charlotte market.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:43 am
by JCline0429
firemoose wrote:
YesAppCan wrote:Moose, Greensboro did the same re-print of Tommy's article... 25 minutes down the road
But we're not in the Triad market. We are in the Charlotte market.
We get more coverage out of the WSJ than all the other papers combined.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:19 am
by firemoose
JCline0429 wrote:
firemoose wrote:
YesAppCan wrote:Moose, Greensboro did the same re-print of Tommy's article... 25 minutes down the road
But we're not in the Triad market. We are in the Charlotte market.
We get more coverage out of the WSJ than all the other papers combined.
Yep JC...That's pretty much my whole point. Ever since the announcement of football coming back to Charlotte our coverage has been dropping from the little we got to almost nothing, both TV and print. I know Charlotte is a bigger market than the Triad but what's the point of being considered to be in a bigger market if we get no coverage in that market. Years ago we used to get the Triad stations on Boone cable. Not any more. We get Charlotte and Tri-Cities stations. And at least we usually get a mention on the Tennessee stations.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:47 am
by ASUMountaineer
firemoose wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
firemoose wrote:
YesAppCan wrote:Moose, Greensboro did the same re-print of Tommy's article... 25 minutes down the road
But we're not in the Triad market. We are in the Charlotte market.
We get more coverage out of the WSJ than all the other papers combined.
Yep JC...That's pretty much my whole point. Ever since the announcement of football coming back to Charlotte our coverage has been dropping from the little we got to almost nothing, both TV and print. I know Charlotte is a bigger market than the Triad but what's the point of being considered to be in a bigger market if we get no coverage in that market. Years ago we used to get the Triad stations on Boone cable. Not any more. We get Charlotte and Tri-Cities stations. And at least we usually get a mention on the Tennessee stations.
If we win at the next level, we'll get coverage.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:01 am
by appbio91
Don't see this as negative. It is actually quite objective look at the state of things in Boone. Get used to it. This will continue until we prove the doubters wrong.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:17 am
by HeffnerIV
appbio91 wrote:Don't see this as negative. It is actually quite objective look at the state of things in Boone. Get used to it. This will continue until we prove the doubters wrong.
Agreed. We can't get all in a wad every time we're criticized. If they're criticizing, they're paying attention.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:08 pm
by JCline0429
firemoose wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
firemoose wrote:
YesAppCan wrote:Moose, Greensboro did the same re-print of Tommy's article... 25 minutes down the road
But we're not in the Triad market. We are in the Charlotte market.
We get more coverage out of the WSJ than all the other papers combined.
Yep JC...That's pretty much my whole point. Ever since the announcement of football coming back to Charlotte our coverage has been dropping from the little we got to almost nothing, both TV and print. I know Charlotte is a bigger market than the Triad but what's the point of being considered to be in a bigger market if we get no coverage in that market. Years ago we used to get the Triad stations on Boone cable. Not any more. We get Charlotte and Tri-Cities stations. And at least we usually get a mention on the Tennessee stations.
We are going to get even less coverage in Charlotte with the 49'ers having football.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:07 pm
by fjblair
I didn't think the article was all that negative. What do you want, we are 1-2 and the first 2 games were complete disasters. What's more troubling to me is that he Charlotte Observer did not write a single sentence about the Elon game. Nothing.

They glossed over UNCC's last two beat downs but even they really aren't getting the amount of coverage you might expect.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:28 pm
by appbio91
fjblair wrote:I didn't think the article was all that negative. What do you want, we are 1-2 and the first 2 games were complete disasters. What's more troubling to me is that he Charlotte Observer did not write a single sentence about the Elon game. Nothing.

They glossed over UNCC's last two beat downs but even they really aren't getting the amount of coverage you might expect.
I complained once by email to the observer about lack of coverage and was told their readers are looking for more of a national picture when it comes to sports. They don't see themselves as a local paper. Like everything else in Charlotte they have an over inflated self image.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:17 pm
by MAD Doctor
I didn't think the article was that bad either, just a stupid line at the end that was a weak attempt to be clever. The bottom line is that no sportswriters are waiting in line to write a positive, feel-good article about a team with 1-2 record. Our "new normal" will be determined on the field, not a tobacco road cubicle.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:24 pm
by AtlAppMan
Right now we don't have much choice but to take our lumps. We have not played well and are going through a rebuilding cycle. I wasn't that offended by the article and actually glad we got some pub. Even so, it does sting a bit but that doesn't get me pissed at the writer.

Now the News and Observer hack after A&T game just misrepresented facts and that does piss me off.

Re: W-S J--Scott Hamilton article

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:23 am
by Maddog1956
fjblair wrote: They glossed over UNCC's last two beat downs but even they really aren't getting the amount of coverage you might expect.
Before their first game and after winning their first two game they were covered in print and tv, almost everywhere. Even the weather report would say that game weather looked good for them.

Since their beat down, nothing. I haven't seen anything in print or tv (not that I have been looking).

Charlotte can't stand another losing team. And I don't really say this a negative to UNCC, in my opinion they have great potential in attracting players and being covered in the media and should be able to build a great team in the future, but I think they needed a reality check after their first two games.