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Michigan Football: Ex-Wolverines CB Donovan Warren Talks Appalachian State, UM's Loss in 2007 in Ann Arbor

By Adam Biggers on Jul 12 2014, 3:05p +


Does Michigan really need to fear Appalachian State? Ex-CB Donovan Warren urges Team 135 to approach the game with caution. - Dale Zanine-USA TODAY Sports

Donovan Warren details his feelings toward App. State during an interview with The Wolverine's Michael Spath.

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While catching up on my weekend reading, I stumbled across an interesting piece ($) on The Wolverine by Michael Spath, who throws us back to 2007, the year that Michigan was lampooned at home by Appalachian State, which was then an FCS program.

Of course, that 34-32 blunder will never cease to exist, but Team 135 can help put the story to rest and start the season on a high note by pummeling the Mountaineers on Aug. 30 in Ann Arbor. Not only did Spath take us on a trip and emphasize a strong point (history and all of that), but he had the assistance of former cornerback Donovan Warren, who had some choice words for the embarrassing moment and a little advice for this year's guys.

My feeling is revenge. I know those guys [on the current team] didn't play against Appalachian State but I still have a sour taste in my mouth from that game.

I am talking to some of the guys on the team this year to let them know, 'Don't take this game for granted. These guys are going to come out and compete because they know in their history they can compete with us and that shouldn't be the case at all.

'Dominate the game, and really come out aggressive and make a statement early on.'

Warren's heart is in the right place. I suppose Michigan would benefit by hearing about the worst-case scenario from a guy who was (unfortunately) there. Have you ever seen those "scared straight" shows? Maybe he could walk that path. Talking with Spath and letting it be known that he's "talking to some of the guys" is a start, but perhaps Warren could get all drill sergeant and ask a few of his buddies from 2007 to yell and scream at Team 135.

"Someone said it might be on the big victories in college football," then-coach Jerry Moore said, per ESPN/the Associated Press, after the shocker. "It may be the biggest."

Here are some suggestions to ensure that this doesn't happen again: 1. Play the Moore quote on a loop, 24/7; 2. Warren and his former teammates could do a slideshow and give testimonials about how bad it felt the next day; 3. Maybe they could make Corey Lynch voodoo dolls and practice some sort of black magic, all in the name of guaranteeing a victory during Week 1.

Hoke may appreciate that. He may not endorse such behavior, but hey--a win's a win right now. After 8-5 and 7-6, he can't afford another "bad" loss--not to these guys. If that were to happen, he might as well hit the trail and ride into the sunset.

Game. Over.

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POLL
What type of Week 1 game plan do you favor? As always, feel free to express your opinion in the comments section.

12% Subtle and normal: Treat it like it's just another game
(47 votes)
37% Warren on the rampage: Donovan is doing a great job--can he get reinforcements and go "scared straight" on these guys?!
(146 votes)
20% Something along the lines as the above option, just not as in-your-face.
(79 votes)
32% Different teams, different coaches, different times--do we really need to go back to this?!
(127 votes)
399 votes total

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Corey Lynch voodoo dolls? Really?

Michigan Football: Ex-Wolverines CB Donovan Warren Talks Appalachian State, UM's Loss in 2007 in Ann Arbor

By Adam Biggers on Jul 12 2014, 3:05p +


Does Michigan really need to fear Appalachian State? Ex-CB Donovan Warren urges Team 135 to approach the game with caution. - Dale Zanine-USA TODAY Sports

Donovan Warren details his feelings toward App. State during an interview with The Wolverine's Michael Spath.

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While catching up on my weekend reading, I stumbled across an interesting piece ($) on The Wolverine by Michael Spath, who throws us back to 2007, the year that Michigan was lampooned at home by Appalachian State, which was then an FCS program.

Of course, that 34-32 blunder will never cease to exist, but Team 135 can help put the story to rest and start the season on a high note by pummeling the Mountaineers on Aug. 30 in Ann Arbor. Not only did Spath take us on a trip and emphasize a strong point (history and all of that), but he had the assistance of former cornerback Donovan Warren, who had some choice words for the embarrassing moment and a little advice for this year's guys.

My feeling is revenge. I know those guys [on the current team] didn't play against Appalachian State but I still have a sour taste in my mouth from that game.

I am talking to some of the guys on the team this year to let them know, 'Don't take this game for granted. These guys are going to come out and compete because they know in their history they can compete with us and that shouldn't be the case at all.

'Dominate the game, and really come out aggressive and make a statement early on.'

Warren's heart is in the right place. I suppose Michigan would benefit by hearing about the worst-case scenario from a guy who was (unfortunately) there. Have you ever seen those "scared straight" shows? Maybe he could walk that path. Talking with Spath and letting it be known that he's "talking to some of the guys" is a start, but perhaps Warren could get all drill sergeant and ask a few of his buddies from 2007 to yell and scream at Team 135.

"Someone said it might be on the big victories in college football," then-coach Jerry Moore said, per ESPN/the Associated Press, after the shocker. "It may be the biggest."

Here are some suggestions to ensure that this doesn't happen again: 1. Play the Moore quote on a loop, 24/7; 2. Warren and his former teammates could do a slideshow and give testimonials about how bad it felt the next day; 3. Maybe they could make Corey Lynch voodoo dolls and practice some sort of black magic, all in the name of guaranteeing a victory during Week 1.

Hoke may appreciate that. He may not endorse such behavior, but hey--a win's a win right now. After 8-5 and 7-6, he can't afford another "bad" loss--not to these guys. If that were to happen, he might as well hit the trail and ride into the sunset.

Game. Over.

Follow Maize 'n Brew's Adam Biggers on Twitter @AdamBiggers81

POLL
What type of Week 1 game plan do you favor? As always, feel free to express your opinion in the comments section.

12% Subtle and normal: Treat it like it's just another game
(47 votes)
37% Warren on the rampage: Donovan is doing a great job--can he get reinforcements and go "scared straight" on these guys?!
(146 votes)
20% Something along the lines as the above option, just not as in-your-face.
(79 votes)
32% Different teams, different coaches, different times--do we really need to go back to this?!
(127 votes)
399 votes total

Kind of confirms my feelings on this. I know Michigan fans pretty well. Regardless of the fact that the players were not there and the coaches were not there, the fans were, and still are. Anyone who thinks that the athletic department is not VERY aware of where the fans and past players stand on this is mistaken. They do not want a victory they want a slaughter. I have a doctor friend over there who is holding back this years sizable donation till after the game. You just can't understand the impact of the rest of the big 10 rubbing it in their faces has had on them. Now if we were to.............

Believe it or not lightning has been known to strike twice in the same spot.

WataugaMan wrote:Believe it or not lightning has been known to strike twice in the same spot.

They must be worried about their team this year, if they have to go thru all this to pump themselves up! If I was SS I'd use this type of talk to pump our guys up, to let them know that there are people out there that think that a door may be left open.

from what I have read, this isn't going to be one of Micigans better teams, a lot of question marks especially on the OLine which, 3 weeks ago suspended their best OL for the game. Really only have one great receiver, question who is the starting qb, and not much at running back. Defense should be solid, maybe one of the better ones in the Big Ten. They want to embarrass us, might as well leave their punter at home, and even if they get a huge lead late in the forth, I still think they will try and score more points and run up the score. But, I think we can be competitive late into the 2nd half, not predicting a win, but I would be really disappointed if the final score wasn't respectable.

There's no doubt that they want to pummel us. It could be 21-0 before we know what hits us.

On the other hand, Michigan may be so wound up, they make a lot of early mistakes early, in which case we have to capitalize.

Worst App team since 1993 hung with Georgia for a half last November. This Michigan team is no Georgia and we will be much improved in 2014. If there is only a 7 point different at the half of this game, I like our chances.

the Georgia game was interesting since our starters, atleast that day, was as good as Georgias, we just ran out of bodies, and Georgia tried to really run up the score late in the forth when the game was essentially over. I could see that playing out again at Michigan, where for 2 1/2 quarters a competitive game, then we run out of gas, and they put 28 on us in the forth, and makes it appear that they dominated from start to finish to someone who didn't watch the game and just saw the final score.

The way I see it, we tried to give away the game in '07. Interceptions, fumbles, missed field goal, dropped TD pass, and a pass interference late in the game to set up Lynch's heroics. And that's with 23 less scholarships and what, 40 less players in the sidelines?

When we head up there, we'll have 83ish scholarship players and more bodies. They may not be the most experienced players we've had, there will be no Armantis, Lynchs, Richardsons, etc., but I like our chances versus a less than stellar Michigan team.

The way I see it, we're playing with house money (pun intended). Play loose but hard, and compete as well as we can for as long as we can. Keep down injuries. A hard fought loss in this game would top most of our wins from last season. At the end of the day, the worst we can come out is even against Michigan at their place.
Go App!!

I'm tellin ya, we're goin in there and kickin their tails.

Some of you have summed it pretty well. To my knowledge we currently don't have the amount of next level talent and warriors we had in '07, if that is what it's going to take to come out on top again. They say lightning doesn't strike in the same place twice? Good thing a successful season doesn't hinge on the first game of the season like Michigan's. I'll be happy with marked improvement over last year.

Black Saturday wrote:They say lightning doesn't strike in the same place twice?

They are not correct, it has happened more than once.

http://www.weatherimagery.com/blog/ligh ... ike-twice/

If they think this game is more important than Ohio St,then we are in for a hard afternoon.If not,I like our chances.

asu1978 wrote:If they think this game is more important than Ohio St,then we are in for a hard afternoon.If not,I like our chances.

Well it would be silly to think it is more important than Ohio State. BUT! It will be damn important to make sure they are not looking at more App State t-shirts when they get to Ohio State. Believe me this is an important game to them.

Black Saturday wrote:Some of you have summed it pretty well. To my knowledge we currently don't have the amount of next level talent and warriors we had in '07, if that is what it's going to take to come out on top again. They say lightning doesn't strike in the same place twice? Good thing a successful season doesn't hinge on the first game of the season like Michigan's. I'll be happy with marked improvement over last year.

App may very well have many warriors and a lot of next level talent....this team is so young we don't know yet. The Big House could be one heck of a coming out party for a number of these guys.

Black Saturday wrote:Some of you have summed it pretty well. To my knowledge we currently don't have the amount of next level talent and warriors we had in '07, if that is what it's going to take to come out on top again. They say lightning doesn't strike in the same place twice? Good thing a successful season doesn't hinge on the first game of the season like Michigan's. I'll be happy with marked improvement over last year.

Can we win? Anything can happen. I'm hoping we do and I'm always disappointed if App does not win.

With that said, there is no excuse for us beating Michigan just like there was no excuse for us losing to Charleston Southern. We lost a game we had no business losing and they did with us as well. They have a lot of young talent on their team. Their QB is a senior and with young talent, while I don't think they can or will beat us by 50 or 60, they should beat us by 25-30. Hopefully we keep it close.

If we do win, nobody can say it was a fluke. Michigan appears to be ready and I have no doubt they are coming in prepared for this game. I want them to be prepared and play well. I just want us to play better. I want people saying that App is for real and hopefully it starts a very successful first season in FBS. I just fear it won't happen because I am level headed and won't expect 12-0 when we should expect 5-7 or 4-8. I'm just hoping for the best and as long as we play our best, I'll be proud of what we do in this game.

SpeedkingATL wrote:

Black Saturday wrote:Some of you have summed it pretty well. To my knowledge we currently don't have the amount of next level talent and warriors we had in '07, if that is what it's going to take to come out on top again. They say lightning doesn't strike in the same place twice? Good thing a successful season doesn't hinge on the first game of the season like Michigan's. I'll be happy with marked improvement over last year.

App may very well have many warriors and a lot of next level talent....this team is so young we don't know yet. The Big House could be one heck of a coming out party for a number of these guys.

You never know how players develop. I think we have several young players who can get a shot at the next level but we definitely don't have many seniors or juniors. Maybe Kendall Lamm. Don't see anyone else making it based on last year. I would be shocked if at least 4-5 of our sophomores this year don't get looks. We got Marcus Cox, John Law, Parker Collins, Dante Blackmon, Bentlee Critcher, etc. and then our freshmen have a shot to be really talented.

These guys need to improve a lot and must win though. A 4 win Sun Belt team can't claim to have 5-10 NFL players on it but if we are winning 7, 8, or 9 games by their senior years then no doubt we should have several guys getting a shot.

It's great to see players in the NFL but I would rather beat Michigan and win the Sun Belt if I had to choose. If we win those type games then the NFL talent will definitely happen so as long as we win first the other stuff takes cares of itself.

If we go in like we did at Va Tech we get pasted. Va Tech had been embarrassed by JMU previous year and was fully prepared and we, quite the contrary, were not. Tech played well and we layed an egg, results were we looked like we didn't belong on same field, and on that day, we didn't. Worst embarrassment for App football I can remember. Final analysis, Tech was much better than App that year but not as bad as score indicated. J Moore said he thought team was ready but clearly they were not prepared at all.

Georgia 2013 - Quality Georgia team, definite upper level SEC with some issues/injuries when we played them, we did well but could have done better in red zone, however, that was not atypical for us that entire year against all opponents. We came to play and just ran out of gas after 3 qtrs. I was there, UGA fans were impressed and a bit nervous for 2.5 qtrs. This could be evidence of how current coaching staff may prepare team for UM this year.

This year UM "should" be prepared, maybe not like Va Tech was because their JMU pain was fresh on their minds, UM loss is 7 yrs old, different coaches, different players, but don't underestimate fans memory. I have also discussed it with several UM fans over recent years so they have not forgotten. FYI, they all thought of us as basically D2.

Michigan wins if:
1) If UM plays like they are out of their minds as they might for The Ohio State game (which I don't believe they will and they don't always vs OSU) then they will win regardless of what we do.
2) If they play to their full potential (they mostly have 4 & 5 star starters) which is still questionable due to their recent history, they probably win regardless of our play.
3) App lays an egg - comes in ill prepared, is intimidated, and/or makes many mistakes

App wins if:
1) If UM plays avg for their talent, which is very possible, and we play very well at top of our level or out of our minds.
2) UM lays an egg and App plays to the level we are capable or better.

This year we have something to prove, FBS member, team wants to close door on bad last year, new coaching staff wants to prove they can motivate team, etc. However, we don't have the track record with this staff and players to really know how our team will react to this type of situation.

I don't think App will lay an egg this time, but also don't really know what our upside potential is either. We have so many unknowns. I think we have a lot of upside "potential" but don't know if it is developed enough in first game. Therefore, assuming we do come in prepared, much of outcome is mostly based on how motivated UM team is and how many mistakes they make.

AtlAppMan wrote:
I don't think App will lay an egg this time, but also don't really know what our upside potential is either. We have so many unknowns. I think we have a lot of upside "potential" but don't know if it is developed enough in first game. Therefore, assuming we do come in prepared, much of outcome is mostly based on how motivated UM team is and how many mistakes they make.

I don't know if we can win, but we can look good if we...

1) Come prepared, our team has had some time to settle down and play together now, it's not last season.
2) We go big or go home, play outside the box and take some chances. If we're successful with some early big plays, we marginalize their big men and force them into a passing game that can lead to big breaks. We just have to take this as a time to shine. UM winning now doesn't take away their lost and we're not expected to win, so we have nothing to lose if we come out in beast mode. If we try to play safe and beat them at the line it's over.

agree with everything you said, this isn't a great Michigan team, but we have so many unknown factors, I really don't know what to expect from us. One more think about the VT game, watching it, late in the third, and the game was essentially over, Moore, for some reason, decided to start throwing the ball all over the field, on 1st, 2nd, 3rd downs, well, we didn't eat any of the clock, and VT got probably 3-4 extra possessions. If Moore would have just run out the clock, the score wouldn't have been nearly as embarrassing. The game was essentially over, we had little or no chance to win the game, and for whatever reason, he decided to get extremely aggressive with the play calling, didn't make alot of sense.