AppDawg wrote:ASUMountaineer wrote:
Just for the record, my post (which was quoted leading to the posts you quoted) was not to state that women are fabricating/inventing a story. I just simply can't support the idea that women should be given the "benefit of the doubt," which is essentially rendering the accused as "guilty until proven innocent."
I too trust SS and the staff to know all of the details and to make the correct decision.
I was who originally quoted you and it was out of agreeance. I posted the Duke situation, because those guys were run through the wringer nationally, due simply to as you say "the benefit of the doubt." In my opinion it is a real world example of how all of us should be careful before throwing stones/making unsubstantiated allegations leading to the "guilty until proven innocent" mindset. I want to say they are still fighting the city of Durham and former DA in civil courts.
Nonetheless, until he gives me a reason not to, I too fully Support and Trust that SS is handling the situation appropriately and building a team with the type of young men we are all proud to root and cheer for.
And since it has been mentioned in prior posts by others, I do have a daughter and so help me if when she gets older and a boyfriend mistreats her....
My point is people are put through the wringer all the time with unsubstantiated allegations, but yet it's only on the sexual assault cases that guys seem to complain. If we don't want to be able to arrest someone or even accused someone until their is enough proof that they are 100% guilty, fine I'm all for it. Let's just make it for all crimes.
Let's just don't make the male the victim in these cases unless we also want to make the "thug" that gets picked up for "fitting the profile" the victim also. Most times in sexual assault there isn't going to be a smoking gun, should every guy walk?
In the Duke case all charges were dropped, Nifong was debarred, lost his job and stayed a night in jail. The boys who hired the stippers, missed some games and their only problem with Durham is their $30 million lawsuit. The whole team is also suing the City and received an extra year NCAA eligibility.
But even if people still think this was such a bad deal for the boys. Ask what should they have done, nothing? Should they not have questioned them? What if they didn't want to come in, should they have forgot about it? I worry more about the females that are actually assaulted and raped instead of the small (The "conventional scholarly wisdom," according to American law professor Michelle J. Anderson, is that two percent of rape complaints made to the police are false.) chance that a male will be wrongfully accused. If we have to be over 98% correct before arresting someone, just get rid of the whole justice system.
An email sent to the whole team.
XXXXXX's replaced by me. Total victims, 100% innocent?
“To whom it may concern, tomorrow night, after tonights show, ive decided to have some strippers over to edens 2c. all are welcome.. however there will be no nudity. I plan on killing the bitches as soon as the[y] walk in and proceding to cut their skin off while
XXXXXXX'ing in my duke issue spandex . . all in besides arch and tack [two of his teammates] please respond”
