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Fall Camp

Unread post by T-Dog » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:15 pm

-Offense looks the same. Couple new wrinkles. Nothing under center yet. Probably will save that for the closed practices.

-Tempo is being pushed. Very fast today.

-Caruso is making a serious play for backup. Still prone to mistakes, but he's pushing Lamb.

-Bentley is booting the mess out off the ball. It has that Sam Martin sound coming off the foot.

-For the first time in the Satterfield era, the offense is playing well against the defense the last two days. Defense dominated the first day. The offense won today according to Scott, the first day in pads.

-Been a legit fight every day. Think there was three alone on Tuesday. Malachi has been in a scruff with a DB every day. The DB's talk a lot.

-Owen Painter went down today with a knee injury. Didn't look good and didn't return to practice.

-Deuce got a shoulder injury on Saturday. He's been practicing lightly since. Big chance for Dada, who looks strong.

-Who looked good last year looks good this year (Law, Cox, etc).
-There's going to be at least two true freshman catching balls this year. Hopkins is tiny but fast. Meadors has been ill but in what I've seen has good ball recognition. Armstrong also looks strong.

-Ross is a shut down DB. Alex Gray can block field goals.

-Fernandez is huge, but can move the best of the NT's. He commands a double team every snap.

-Sirignano has a deep gravely voice. You know when he speaks.

-Injured players work our during practice, pushing every body part that isn't injured. Looks like no fun and they rather be practicing.

-If you don't listen while Woody speaks, you're running to the other goalpost and back.

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Re: Fall Camp

Unread post by Yosef10 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:13 pm

Love that the DBs talk as long as they back it up. I noticed no mention of sumler, has he done anything eye catching?

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Re: Fall Camp

Unread post by APPARJ » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:56 pm

T-Dog wrote:
-There's going to be at least two true freshman catching balls this year. Hopkins is tiny but fast. Meadors has been ill but in what I've seen has good ball recognition. Armstrong also looks strong.
I went to two practices and thought Isaiah Lewis was very impressive. More so than Armstrong.
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Unread post by sixtoes9134 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:32 am

I went Sunday and agree on Lewis /WR

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Unread post by AtlAppMan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:59 am

Great summary/update. I appreciate getting your perspective.
Fernandez is huge, but can move the best of the NT's. He commands a double team every snap.
Any bull rushes from Tyson? I want to see him overpower some OL guys. (not necessarily our guys)

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Unread post by bigCasu » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:03 am

Tyson's job isnt to bull rush. It is to occupy two gaps and stand his ground so a linebacker can make a play. I could see him getting a couple sacks, but it'll be due to a team thinking than can put one man on him. That wont work.

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Unread post by AtlAppMan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:16 pm

bigCasu wrote:Tyson's job isnt to bull rush. It is to occupy two gaps and stand his ground so a linebacker can make a play. I could see him getting a couple sacks, but it'll be due to a team thinking than can put one man on him. That wont work.
So you are telling me that we will never call an all out blitz where we know it is a pass play?

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:49 pm

If Tyson gets a sack it will likely be because the QB stepped up in the pocket due to the edge rush and the QB runs into the back of the OL Tyson is taking on.

If he gets a wrap up sack at NT in a 3-4 he is crushing his opponent.

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Re: Fall Camp

Unread post by T-Dog » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:08 pm

I forgot about Lewis. So many new WR's that I forget who's who. He's looked really strong. There's some raw talent at that position. A good player or two will be redshirted.

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Unread post by moehler » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:34 pm

out of all the positions we need a freshman or two at the wide receiver position to step up, make the traveling team, and make a positive contribution if we have any hope for the passing game to be better this year, that's alot to ask of kids who have never played a down at the collage level.

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Unread post by AtlAppMan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:29 pm

Saint3333 wrote:If he gets a wrap up sack at NT in a 3-4 he is crushing his opponent.
That's what I'm talking about, I want him to crush opponents. Look, I understand the premise of the 3-4 and typically his key job is to clog up the middle and force double teams. If he does that then we are successful.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:57 pm

Thanks, very good info.

I think it's a given that more than a couple freshmen WR will play. Just a question of where they fall on the depth chart.

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Unread post by moehler » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:55 pm

Just saw a picture of Fernandez on ASU official site, during practice today, man that guy is huge, if he can stay healthy and stay on the field, nobody, Michigan, GS, whoever, is going to be able to move him out of the middle

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Unread post by luvyosef » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:13 pm

Thanks for the updates! Go Apps!
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Unread post by ASUGoose » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:14 pm

T-Dog wrote:-Offense looks the same. Couple new wrinkles. Nothing under center yet. Probably will save that for the closed practices.

-Tempo is being pushed. Very fast today.

-Caruso is making a serious play for backup. Still prone to mistakes, but he's pushing Lamb.

-Bentley is booting the mess out off the ball. It has that Sam Martin sound coming off the foot.

-For the first time in the Satterfield era, the offense is playing well against the defense the last two days. Defense dominated the first day. The offense won today according to Scott, the first day in pads.

-Been a legit fight every day. Think there was three alone on Tuesday. Malachi has been in a scruff with a DB every day. The DB's talk a lot.

-Owen Painter went down today with a knee injury. Didn't look good and didn't return to practice.

-Deuce got a shoulder injury on Saturday. He's been practicing lightly since. Big chance for Dada, who looks strong.

-Who looked good last year looks good this year (Law, Cox, etc).
-There's going to be at least two true freshman catching balls this year. Hopkins is tiny but fast. Meadors has been ill but in what I've seen has good ball recognition. Armstrong also looks strong.

-Ross is a shut down DB. Alex Gray can block field goals.

-Fernandez is huge, but can move the best of the NT's. He commands a double team every snap.

-Sirignano has a deep gravely voice. You know when he speaks.

-Injured players work our during practice, pushing every body part that isn't injured. Looks like no fun and they rather be practicing.

-If you don't listen while Woody speaks, you're running to the other goalpost and back.
Thank you T-Dog for the updates... keep them coming! :)

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Unread post by bigCasu » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:49 pm

We dont have one receiver currently who stands out among the rest like we have had in the past. If I had to choose one, its Isiah Lewis. If he doesnt make the travel squad than this coaching staff isn't trying to win this year.

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Re: Fall Camp

Unread post by APPARJ » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:01 pm

bigCasu wrote:We dont have one receiver currently who stands out among the rest like we have had in the past. If I had to choose one, its Isiah Lewis. If he doesnt make the travel squad than this coaching staff isn't trying to win this year.
It would be an interesting choice to not play talented guys like Lewis this season. I would rather have my skill guys with a year of FBS experience under their belt going into a Bowl Eligible season.

Admittedly, I am not football expert, but it seems like now is the time for these young guys to get game experience. I understand not wanted to play guys last season, but now we're staring at competing for a bowl game in one year's time.
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Re: Fall Camp

Unread post by EastHallApp » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:39 pm

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bigCasu wrote:We dont have one receiver currently who stands out among the rest like we have had in the past. If I had to choose one, its Isiah Lewis. If he doesnt make the travel squad than this coaching staff isn't trying to win this year.
It would be an interesting choice to not play talented guys like Lewis this season. I would rather have my skill guys with a year of FBS experience under their belt going into a Bowl Eligible season.

Admittedly, I am not football expert, but it seems like now is the time for these young guys to get game experience. I understand not wanted to play guys last season, but now we're staring at competing for a bowl game in one year's time.
We've only got four returning WRs who are ready to play, and one of those can't seem to stay healthy. We're going to play some freshmen there. Just a question of which ones and how much.

Interesting that Lewis seems to be getting the most hype of that freshmen group, as he was one of the more lightly recruited ones. Guess that's why this time of year is fun, though.

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Re: Fall Camp

Unread post by APPARJ » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:46 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
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bigCasu wrote:We dont have one receiver currently who stands out among the rest like we have had in the past. If I had to choose one, its Isiah Lewis. If he doesnt make the travel squad than this coaching staff isn't trying to win this year.
It would be an interesting choice to not play talented guys like Lewis this season. I would rather have my skill guys with a year of FBS experience under their belt going into a Bowl Eligible season.

Admittedly, I am not football expert, but it seems like now is the time for these young guys to get game experience. I understand not wanted to play guys last season, but now we're staring at competing for a bowl game in one year's time.
We've only got four returning WRs who are ready to play, and one of those can't seem to stay healthy. We're going to play some freshmen there. Just a question of which ones and how much.

Interesting that Lewis seems to be getting the most hype of that freshmen group, as he was one of the more lightly recruited ones. Guess that's why this time of year is fun, though.
The high praise for Lewis is great but I think Satt said it best, until full pads are on and the defense is going at full tilt, it's going to be hard to judge some of the skill players.

But with the talent we've amassed at the WR position, my hopefully there's not much regression in terms of performance.
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Re: Fall Camp

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:35 pm

I am all for a stable of quality receivers.

One thing I am still concerned about is QB. I think Kam has great upside and am looking for him to make a huge leap from first year to second year starter. Sat said on one of his interviews exactly what I was thinking about last year, Kam was slow making decisions and therefore pocket started collapsing, late delivery to receivers allowed defenders to converge. Jackson had gotten bad about this and was eventually replaced by Bryant. I am hoping and expecting Kam to get much more comfortable this year. Game will go much faster against SBC teams so he will have to make quick decisions on every snap. He needs to be putting ball where receivers will be not where they are. Sat also said he was working on arm strength so he needs to challenge defense downfield.

I am hoping to see Kam come out of gate strong and on top of his game. If O-line give him some protection I think things can come together.

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