Sunday Morning QB on a Friday ---

[WVAPPeer]

OK - here we go with Volume 2 ---
1. What always amazes me about this board is so many make pre-game predictions and some even state why you think the score will be what is it AND when it turns out that the predictions were pretty close to correct you go NUTS!!!
2. The majority on here had this game pegged pretty much like it turned out and many predicted we would be 1-3 at this point - so let's not act shocked that that is where we are ---
3. It serves no constructive purpose to continue to complain about what wasn't done a few years ago - we are were we are and the choices are to take what we have and work hard to improve or we cash in and call it a day (year)
4. I saw positives and I saw negatives (basically just like every other team in every other game) ---
5. Positive --- our guys look to be in the best shape I have seen them in some time - they get back home at 5am last Sunday after a heartbreaking loss and go on a 6 hour bus trip 3 days later and the defense was on the field 2/3 of the game
6. Negative --- The defense was on the field 2/3 of the game --- still too many missed tackles BUT give the GaSo guys some credit - they run the ball well
7. Positive --- The pass blocking was solid especially considering the 17-0 hole we were in and them knowing we had to pass - The receivers caught the balls they should have caught, don't remember any drops - Taylor made some nice throws
8. I strongly disagree with those who say it is a mistake to play for the future - the future is where this team has a chance to be really good - when playing young players there will be mistakes - ALL OF US KNEW THIS BEFORE THE SEASON BEGAN
9. Quick Points (ugh, something we can't seem to get)
a. if the coaches don't have the belief that our kicker can make a short FG - time to find another kicker - someone said Matics was hurt? - don't know
b. way too many false starts - does anyone know if we are going on a silent count/ball snap?
c. penalties hurt us badly - even the 2 missed pass interference calls
d. Taylor has more interceptions in 2 games than Kam had all of last season - Taylor needs to learn from this
e. Special Teams - need I say more?
f. saw some different offensive sets and routes last night - must keep doing this
g. GaSo beat Florida last season and really, really should have beaten State and GT - they literally gave State that game - They are better than us right now
h. This team has had a rough stretch here in the first 5 weeks - 5 of 8 are now
at The Rock
I. finally, for now, I liked the new white pants ---

[PhillyApp1]

You are a ray of sunshine, but APP is just not good. Average by FCS standards.

I will not expect anything to change the rest of this year, until I see a repeated positive change.

GO APP.....because I Love APP Football even when its as ugly as its been for several years

And i like the new white pants also

[AppSt94]

Great post "dude". I have to disagree with you take on #3. In order to understand the problem you have to ask the why.

[Black Saturday]

Point 9-d...Lamb locks on to 1 receiver can be added. GSU realized this and of course took advantage of it, very obviously on the pick at the goal line.

[ASUMountaineer]

Thanks El Presidente! All night and morning, I kept thinking about all of the positives--there are several. But, it's just hard for me to process moral victories. Missed opportunities bite you in every step of life, and on the football field is no different. I wish I had the answer, and I'm sure SS does too.

There were two big differences between the teams last night: 1) GS' key players are very experienced and 2) Fritz is an experienced HC and SS is still completing his OTJ training. For all of those lunatics on social media last night calling for SS to be fired, they have to understand that there will be growing pains with a first-time HC. Just as I'm sure my employer had to accept growing pains when I started.

The most frustrating thing is that this team is so close, but can't get out of it's own way. That falls on SS, and he has to figure it out. I truly believe that JM's experience is what kept us winning in 2011 and 2012 as he could mask the deficiencies. I have no doubt that the current squad is more talented. With all of that said, I stand by SS and our guys! GO APPS!

I liked the white pants too--all white is too white (and I'm as white as Powder). Whew, that what a ridiculous amount to type--I need a nap!

[moehler]

great post, especially the point about preparing for the future, strongly agree with SS redshirting most of his first 2 classes. My first impression of Lamb is one cool customer, smart, well coached, made the one mistake throwing the interception at the goal line, but overall he is going to be a pretty good qb.

[strongwxnc]

Great post sir!

[AppState89]

Positive - 73 fresh and soph on the team
Negative - 73 fresh and soph on the team

What do I mean?

Positive - We have a young team and we will be good as they get more playing time

Negative - We have a young team and they will make mistakes, the future looks bright.

Go Apps!!!!!

[AppSt94]

Point 9-d...Lamb locks on to 1 receiver can be added. GSU realized this and of course took advantage of it, very obviously on the pick at the goal line.

Not trying to start anything negative but wasn't this one of the problems that some had with Bryant?

[ASUMountaineer]

Positive - 73 fresh and soph on the team
Negative - 73 fresh and soph on the team

What do I mean?

Positive - We have a young team and we will be good as they get more playing time

Negative - We have a young team and they will make mistakes, the future looks bright.

Go Apps!!!!!

We also have an inexperienced HC. That, to me, is a big factor. IMO, the A&T and CSU losses last year were a direct result of those teams having experienced HC's and us having an inexperienced HC. Even though Fritz is in his first year at GSU, not only did he inherit an experienced team, he has years of experience as a HC at many levels with success. That's a good formula. I have faith that we can get there, but I don't have faith in a very vocal bunch of our fans that are inpatient.

[sixtoes9134]

Point 9-d...Lamb locks on to 1 receiver can be added. GSU realized this and of course took advantage of it, very obviously on the pick at the goal line.

Giving too much credit to GSU on this one. That was simply a ball that should not have been thrown.

We did have the ball in the red zone 3 times and came away with no points. To me, that's one major thing that has to get corrected.

[AppSt94]

Point 9-d...Lamb locks on to 1 receiver can be added. GSU realized this and of course took advantage of it, very obviously on the pick at the goal line.

Giving too much credit to GSU on this one. That was simply a ball that should not have been thrown.

We did have the ball in the red zone 3 times and came away with no points. To me, that's one major thing that has to get corrected.

Add that to the two last week and you have a total of 5 red zone visits and no points.

[AppState2014]

Positive - 73 fresh and soph on the team
Negative - 73 fresh and soph on the team

What do I mean?

Positive - We have a young team and we will be good as they get more playing time

Negative - We have a young team and they will make mistakes, the future looks bright.

Go Apps!!!!!

We also have an inexperienced HC. That, to me, is a big factor. IMO, the A&T and CSU losses last year were a direct result of those teams having experienced HC's and us having an inexperienced HC. Even though Fritz is in his first year at GSU, not only did he inherit an experienced team, he has years of experience as a HC at many levels with success. That's a good formula. I have faith that we can get there, but I don't have faith in a very vocal bunch of our fans that are inpatient.

It's why many on this board were hoping for a different choice by Cobb. Nobody hates Satterfield and we all want him to do well but most folks who were against him were solely because he lacked experience. That's why Satterfield must win next year or he is gone. H

Hopefully Satterfield gets it turned around because while I want him to do well, I, nor anyone else, don't want to see 4 losing seasons in a row. We have never had back to back losing seasons that I know of. Satterfield is going to break records this year and not in a good way.

[ASUMountaineer]

Positive - 73 fresh and soph on the team
Negative - 73 fresh and soph on the team

What do I mean?

Positive - We have a young team and we will be good as they get more playing time

Negative - We have a young team and they will make mistakes, the future looks bright.

Go Apps!!!!!

We also have an inexperienced HC. That, to me, is a big factor. IMO, the A&T and CSU losses last year were a direct result of those teams having experienced HC's and us having an inexperienced HC. Even though Fritz is in his first year at GSU, not only did he inherit an experienced team, he has years of experience as a HC at many levels with success. That's a good formula. I have faith that we can get there, but I don't have faith in a very vocal bunch of our fans that are inpatient.

It's why many on this board were hoping for a different choice by Cobb. Nobody hates Satterfield and we all want him to do well but most folks who were against him were solely because he lacked experience. That's why Satterfield must win next year or he is gone. H

Hopefully Satterfield gets it turned around because while I want him to do well, I, nor anyone else, don't want to see 4 losing seasons in a row. We have never had back to back losing seasons that I know of. Satterfield is going to break records this year and not in a good way.

You wanted him fired yesterday. Look, he wasn't my first choice of those interviewed as well, but I'm also not going to throw him under the bus after 1.5 years. I also never said anyone hated him, of course no one does.

We hired a first-time HC, stepped up in competition, making up for lackluster recruiting in previous years, had massive turnover in the school and AD administration, and expected to keep winning? I know SS deserves a lot of blame, and so do others, but the time to blame and give pink slips has not arrived. People calling for him to be fired need to pump the breaks and awake in reality.

[firemoose]

Positive - 73 fresh and soph on the team
Negative - 73 fresh and soph on the team

What do I mean?

Positive - We have a young team and we will be good as they get more playing time

Negative - We have a young team and they will make mistakes, the future looks bright.

Go Apps!!!!!

We also have an inexperienced HC. That, to me, is a big factor. IMO, the A&T and CSU losses last year were a direct result of those teams having experienced HC's and us having an inexperienced HC. Even though Fritz is in his first year at GSU, not only did he inherit an experienced team, he has years of experience as a HC at many levels with success. That's a good formula. I have faith that we can get there, but I don't have faith in a very vocal bunch of our fans that are inpatient.

It's why many on this board were hoping for a different choice by Cobb. Nobody hates Satterfield and we all want him to do well but most folks who were against him were solely because he lacked experience. That's why Satterfield must win next year or he is gone. H

Hopefully Satterfield gets it turned around because while I want him to do well, I, nor anyone else, don't want to see 4 losing seasons in a row. We have never had back to back losing seasons that I know of. Satterfield is going to break records this year and not in a good way.

56-57 & 81-82 for the record.

[EastHallApp]

Just curious, because I wasn't around this board then - if not Satterfield, who did people think should be hired? Presumably not Elliott if the issue was previous HC experience.

I thought he was a pretty obvious and sensible choice. When a coach leaves a program that's been really successful, it's pretty normal for one of the coordinators to succeed him (see Oregon, Boise, Oklahoma St., Stanford, Wisconsin). And it's also not unusual for programs at the highest level to hire first-time HCs (see all of the above, plus Florida State, Oklahoma, Georgia, Clemson). Obviously doesn't always work, but it's not like it's such a crazy idea.


Oh, and AS2014 never misses a chance, does he?

[firemoose]

Just curious, because I wasn't around this board then - if not Satterfield, who did people think should be hired? Presumably not Elliott if the issue was previous HC experience.

I thought he was a pretty obvious and sensible choice. When a coach leaves a program that's been really successful, it's pretty normal for one of the coordinators to succeed him (see Oregon, Boise, Oklahoma St., Stanford, Wisconsin). And it's also not unusual for programs at the highest level to hire first-time HCs (see all of the above, plus Florida State, Oklahoma, Georgia, Clemson). Obviously doesn't always work, but it's not like it's such a crazy idea.


Oh, and AS2014 never misses a chance, does he?

Never...but should do a bit of research before making some of the statements.

[AppSt94]

Scott is a cool and calculating customer. Just because a play is not executed correctly it doesn't make it the wrong play. Someone posted in the game thread that he is always standing with his arms crossed and chewing gum. I think he is calm in the moment and is team reacts with the same poise to situations.

[diehardapp18]

That was a great post OP, I agree with about all of it. I mean really last night was about what I was realistically expecting (I know I picked us to win but that was just the black and yellow kool aid doing the talking). We're a young team and we made mistakes on the road to a damn good team. As others have pointed out that GaSo team SHOULD have beaten GT andNCSU already this year and they beat UF last year. Are they better? Yes but they're more experienced top to bottom. It's not like we were completely dominated, we had some success passing the ball. The defense was playing alright at one point but they just got wore out.

I'm not surprised this team is making a considerable amount of mistakes, nor am I worried about Satterfield yet. But I do want to see improvement by the end of the season, if these mistakes are still happening and I don't see an improvement in play calling then his seat may start warming up a bit. I also think some of our most talented players are being redshirted. I really believe Meadors would have been one of our best WRs this year they just want to save him for more seasons that actually are going to matter.

Really what I mainly want to see by the end of the year is less mistakes and better play calling. It's hard to expect too much as far as wins/losses goes because we're still so young and just not the caliber of a good FBS team yet. Building a good team at this level may take just another year or two. I just want to see the team remain competitive and erase some of these mistakes. Gotta finish better too. Three trips to the red zone last night with 0 points I think? No excuse in that.

[EastHallApp]

Another point about last night - people talk about App's mistakes, and rightfully so. But GSU - who had fumbled 10 times in their first four games - didn't fumble once last night to my recollection.

Not only were we playing a better team, we caught them on a night where they played a cleaner game than they normally do.