Kicking Game

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Kicking Game

Unread post by MtnMan09 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:38 am

I know that we have all beat this topic to death but I really am just stunned. We are an FBS football program. Hell even coaches at FCS programs know going into a season whether they have a kicker on the roster that can get the job done. We showed the world in only the 4th game of the season that we don't have anyone on roster who can even make a 30 yard field goal, which is unfathomable to me. How does that happen? We left at least 9 points on the field and I lay that right at the feet of the coaches. No way we should be in this position as a "major college program." I hope they went to both the mens and women's soccer teams this morning asking for people to try out.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by WER4ASU » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:19 am

You could not be more right! The only correction I'd make is in the name of your thread! We don't have a kicking game. We don't have a good or bad kicking game to discuss because we do not have a kicking game at all!

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by Gonzo » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:49 am

Mattics as at the very least medicre last year. I know we had a change in holder against SoMiss, but it's remarkable to me that in the blink of an eye we suddenly have no kicker. Satt obviously doesn't have any confidence in him anymore after a short week of practice too. It's like the beginning of Space Jam.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by appst89 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:53 am

It was mentioned last night that people at the game were reporting that Matics appeared to have injured himself on the second extra point. Critcher did the kickoff after that score, so there could be something to that. Not that Satt would have had a tremendous amount of faith in Matics, but if he was hurt that probably helps to explain the going for it on 4th down on the first drive of the third quarter.

In any event, we simply must have a reliable kicker.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by mikeyosef » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:56 am

Exactly! We need to go out to the men's soccer team and find someone. Conduct open tryouts, whatever it takes. Geez, we couldn't even kick it into the endzone on kickoffs; even division 3 teams can do that. How in the world did this happen in the first place? We've always had pretty good kickers and punters. I'm at a loss of words. Just unbelievable.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by MtnMan09 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:56 am

Really do we just have one guy that can kick field goals? Did we not have a contingency plan in case Matics got hurt? Having a competent kicker is a high school level stuff. I really dont want to have to watch us go for it on 4th and 4 inside the 20 for the whole season. SS wanted to talk about Lamb's INT on the 1 yd line killing momentum, lets talk about how an offense feels after they march the length of the field on multiple occassions and come away with ZERO points because its a TD or bust. Not having a kicker that can hit a FG from any distance is just plain unacceptable.

Critcher is also not off the hook. He's lucky he only had 1 punt blocked. If he can't get faster with his release we need to increase the protection on our second wall.

I really am just amazed at how this situation is playing out.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:59 am

It is truly brutal to have to hold your breath on extra points and to see us turn the ball over on downs in the red zone on a 4th and 4 because the coach has no apparent faith in trying a chipshot field goal. It is also difficult to watch kickoffs sail to the 5 yard line allowing returns beyond the 30 which puts the defense in a tough spot right off the bat. Last night when GSU had to kick off from their 20 due to a penalty their kicker still put the ball inside our 10! All the talk about upgraded recruiting and we still rely on walkons for the kicking positions. And for crying out loud can we get centers and long snappers to keep the ball off the ground?

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:00 am

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by appstate2007 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:23 am

The lack of a Kicking game is proving to be HUGH. It cost the team the Southern Miss game and it caused the coach to have to make a decision to go for it on 4th and goal when down 10 and should have kick a FG. But this all falls on the coaching staff. The team has had way to many flags against them. The Defense not able to get off the field on 3rd down. The offense not able to make 1st downs early in games. This all falls on the coaches. For a O line that have been together as long as they have, false starts should be minimal at most. The D Line did not have a good game last night either. Yes it is a triple option team, but it is nothing that App has not seen from them in years past. Just flat out bad coaching. Offensive play calls have been awful and this falls on Coach Satt (since he calls his own). They kept trying to run the ball up the gut on first downs and getting nothing or losing yards. Just don't see any signs of life out of Coach Satt either. He seems to be showing no emotions at all. Got to do better at calling plays and cut out penalties! Otherwise it is going to be a long year!

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:59 am

I am glad someone else commented on Satterfield's emotions, or lack thereof. Everytime a camera showed him on the sideline he looked lost. I am really not criticizing him but it is just an observation. In contrast the GSU coach always appeared to be in control, firey and pumped up (and it was reflected in his sideline). I noticed quite a bit of emotion with our assistant coaches but again, Satt looks lost. During the offseason I would read that the offense was going to be fast, fast, fast. I just don't see it. Perhaps it is just a reflection of personnel and wishful thinking in camp. Without sounding like I am living in the past, the offenses with AE at the helm were far more dynamic and faster and those were just FCS offenses.

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Unread post by ASUMountaineer » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:05 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:I am glad someone else commented on Satterfield's emotions, or lack thereof. Everytime a camera showed him on the sideline he looked lost. I am really not criticizing him but it is just an observation. In contrast the GSU coach always appeared to be in control, firey and pumped up (and it was reflected in his sideline). I noticed quite a bit of emotion with our assistant coaches but again, Satt looks lost. During the offseason I would read that the offense was going to be fast, fast, fast. I just don't see it. Perhaps it is just a reflection of personnel and wishful thinking in camp. Without sounding like I am living in the past, the offenses with AE at the helm were far more dynamic and faster and those were just FCS offenses.
Satterfield is a first-time HC. What I'm seeing out of Satt reminds me of Ron Rivera his first two seasons leading the Panthers. The similarities seem startling. Most say it takes a rookie WR three seasons, on average, to turn into an NFL player. Maybe the same three season learning curve exists for rookie head coaches...
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:15 pm

A coach has to be who he is - if he is not a rah-rah guy then you won't see much of that - I have absolutely no problem with his demeanor - He doesn't look lost to me - he was a QB and everyone looks for a "coolness" in their QB, in all the years I have never seen Satterfield not be "cool" ---
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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by JTApps1 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:23 pm

I remember GSU being in the same boat 3 years ago when they couldn't make a kick. They even had open tryouts during the year to try to find someone. It cost them dearly in the semi-finals that year.

Satterfield tried to bring in a scholarship kicker last year, but then he flipped his commitment late last year. We do have a commitment from a kicker this year so hopefully he come to Boone. After seeing our issues the last two weeks I'm sure he would see a great opportunity to play early.

As for Scott having a lack of emotion on the sidelines, how many times did people make similar comments about Jerry? I know people that chanted "Wake him up!" followed by "Let him sleep!" because they thought he looked out of it. Point is not every coach is going to be animated on the sidelines.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by AppState89 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:31 pm

JTApps1 wrote:I remember GSU being in the same boat 3 years ago when they couldn't make a kick. They even had open tryouts during the year to try to find someone. It cost them dearly in the semi-finals that year.

Satterfield tried to bring in a scholarship kicker last year, but then he flipped his commitment late last year. We do have a commitment from a kicker this year so hopefully he come to Boone. After seeing our issues the last two weeks I'm sure he would see a great opportunity to play early.

As for Scott having a lack of emotion on the sidelines, how many times did people make similar comments about Jerry? I know people that chanted "Wake him up!" followed by "Let him sleep!" because they thought he looked out of it. Point is not every coach is going to be animated on the sidelines.
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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by MtnMan09 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:36 pm

AppState89 wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:I remember GSU being in the same boat 3 years ago when they couldn't make a kick. They even had open tryouts during the year to try to find someone. It cost them dearly in the semi-finals that year.

Satterfield tried to bring in a scholarship kicker last year, but then he flipped his commitment late last year. We do have a commitment from a kicker this year so hopefully he come to Boone. After seeing our issues the last two weeks I'm sure he would see a great opportunity to play early.

As for Scott having a lack of emotion on the sidelines, how many times did people make similar comments about Jerry? I know people that chanted "Wake him up!" followed by "Let him sleep!" because they thought he looked out of it. Point is not every coach is going to be animated on the sidelines.
Here is the commitment you were talking about:
K/P Michael Rubino (6′ 3″ 190) of Middle Creek High School in Apex, NC (posted July 30, 2014) …committed to Appalachian State (updated Sept 6, 2014)

Thats all great and everything but we still have 8 games to play this year. We have to have some kind of stop gap measure now. We really can't just go for it on every 4th down in the redzone from here on out.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by AppState89 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:44 pm

MtnMan09 wrote:
AppState89 wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:I remember GSU being in the same boat 3 years ago when they couldn't make a kick. They even had open tryouts during the year to try to find someone. It cost them dearly in the semi-finals that year.

Satterfield tried to bring in a scholarship kicker last year, but then he flipped his commitment late last year. We do have a commitment from a kicker this year so hopefully he come to Boone. After seeing our issues the last two weeks I'm sure he would see a great opportunity to play early.

As for Scott having a lack of emotion on the sidelines, how many times did people make similar comments about Jerry? I know people that chanted "Wake him up!" followed by "Let him sleep!" because they thought he looked out of it. Point is not every coach is going to be animated on the sidelines.
Here is the commitment you were talking about:
K/P Michael Rubino (6′ 3″ 190) of Middle Creek High School in Apex, NC (posted July 30, 2014) …committed to Appalachian State (updated Sept 6, 2014)

Thats all great and everything but we still have 8 games to play this year. We have to have some kind of stop gap measure now. We really can't just go for it on every 4th down in the redzone from here on out.
He needs to kick a field goal to get his mind back right. It will be a mind issue if they don't let him kick. He isn't that bad of a kicker. GSU's kicker last night is the same kicker that missed all those FGs against us two years ago, if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:48 pm

AppState89 wrote:
MtnMan09 wrote:
AppState89 wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:I remember GSU being in the same boat 3 years ago when they couldn't make a kick. They even had open tryouts during the year to try to find someone. It cost them dearly in the semi-finals that year.

Satterfield tried to bring in a scholarship kicker last year, but then he flipped his commitment late last year. We do have a commitment from a kicker this year so hopefully he come to Boone. After seeing our issues the last two weeks I'm sure he would see a great opportunity to play early.

As for Scott having a lack of emotion on the sidelines, how many times did people make similar comments about Jerry? I know people that chanted "Wake him up!" followed by "Let him sleep!" because they thought he looked out of it. Point is not every coach is going to be animated on the sidelines.
Here is the commitment you were talking about:
K/P Michael Rubino (6′ 3″ 190) of Middle Creek High School in Apex, NC (posted July 30, 2014) …committed to Appalachian State (updated Sept 6, 2014)

Thats all great and everything but we still have 8 games to play this year. We have to have some kind of stop gap measure now. We really can't just go for it on every 4th down in the redzone from here on out.
He needs to kick a field goal to get his mind back right. It will be a mind issue if they don't let him kick. He isn't that bad of a kicker. GSU's kicker last night is the same kicker that missed all those FGs against us two years ago, if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:14 pm

My take on our PK situation - First, we must assume that Matics is our best kicker or he wouldn't have had the job starting the season - Secondly, at this level much of kicking is in the head/confidence - Now, with the short week and even with the bad performance last Saturday I would not have benched Matics for last night as I would have wanted for him to regain his confidence and one doesn't do that for a kicker by benching him. Now it has been hinted that possibly Matics got hurt last night, he clearly didn't kick off after the 2nd TD. Even if he is not injured now is the time to review the kicking game, if he does have some type of injury we absolutely have to have a back-up plan.
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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by appstate2007 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:59 pm

Someone said that Coach Satt don't show emotion because he was a QB and wants to look cool. IDK about all that but yes Coach Satt is a first year FBS Coach as someone mentioned but so was Georgia Sothern's coach. Don't put stock into either agreement. Coach Satt said many times in the off season that the offense last year was to slow and he wanted to go faster and that they would be going faster this year. Has not happened. Had way to many delay of games flags already due to QB waiting for the call from Coach Satt. Also Coach Satt said in the off season that he would be implementing more under center snaps inside the red zone (yet to see this, there have been plenty of times to use it already thus far). Not trying to bash Coach Satt, just stating the truth. A team gets it attitude from it's coach, and if Coach Satt, is going to "look cool" and not show emotions then you have a team that doesn't show up on game day and that is what happened last night and at Michigan.

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Re: Kicking Game

Unread post by 1987mountaineer » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:01 pm

Some of your are to harsh.

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