IT'S WAKE FOREST.... 2017

[WataugaMan]

Whatever their relative prestige, dozens of teams around the country (and their fans) begin the season with an FCS national championship as their goal. I wonder how many open practice dreaming of winning the GoDaddy.com Bowl?

As the college football landscape keeps changing, I foresee in the coming years an FBS (G5) national championship playoff. I've been hearing rumors about it already. We made the correct move.

[Appsolutely]

Anyone who looks at the current membership in the SoCon and bemoans our departure has a far different set of expectations for our athletic programs than I do.

Again, can you show me anyone who bemoans not being in the current SoCon? I'm guessing you have read the earlier posts? Personally, I don't remember anyone saying that?

Anyone who argued against our move to the SunBelt was implicitly arguing to stay in the SoCon. The choice was SunBelt or SoCon. There were no other choices. What's your point?

And as I have said throughout the process, I think we have fans who place far too much emphasis on the post-season, and not enough emphasis on the regular season schedule. I enjoyed the playoffs and I enjoyed all three national championships (I was fortunate enough to get to Chattanooga for all three). Been there...done that...time to move on to another challenge.

"He not busy being born is busy dying."

[EastHallApp]

Whatever their relative prestige, dozens of teams around the country (and their fans) begin the season with an FCS national championship as their goal. I wonder how many open practice dreaming of winning the GoDaddy.com Bowl?

As the college football landscape keeps changing, I foresee in the coming years an FBS (G5) national championship playoff. I've been hearing rumors about it already. We made the correct move.

I have seen some speculation of that too. Of course then we'd be back to not "playing at the highest level" or playing "big boy football," so again there's a tradeoff.

[SpeedkingATL]

Not to be a jackwagon, but where were all these playoff loving App fans during our first round home exits to Nova and Illinois State. I remember being there and there were likely less that 16K at either game. I would expect a much better turnout for games against Wake; or Wyoming or SoMiss.

[WataugaMan]

Whatever their relative prestige, dozens of teams around the country (and their fans) begin the season with an FCS national championship as their goal. I wonder how many open practice dreaming of winning the GoDaddy.com Bowl?

As the college football landscape keeps changing, I foresee in the coming years an FBS (G5) national championship playoff. I've been hearing rumors about it already. We made the correct move.

I have seen some speculation of that too. Of course then we'd be back to not "playing at the highest level" or playing "big boy football," so again there's a tradeoff.

Is FBS and "above" considered "big boy football", or is it only BCS? As previously stated, the landscape is changing. With our move to FBS we will probably be considered second tier. If we had stayed where we were, then 3rd tier would be our status.

[WVAPPeer]

Not to be a jackwagon, but where were all these playoff loving App fans during our first round home exits to Nova and Illinois State. I remember being there and there were likely less that 16K at either game. I would expect a much better turnout for games against Wake; or Wyoming or SoMiss.

Hell man - those were GREAT CROWDS - where were you for the Maine game back in 2002? - there was about 3500 of us there - TOTAL !!!
I would say if the Idaho game on Thanksgiving weekend draws a better crowd that the playoff days then you have your answer ---
Also remember we had almost 32k for Elon, over 30k twice for WCU, over 30k for Montana, over 30k for Wofford and JACKSONVILLE --- WF certainly will break the all-time records if everything goes to plan but just don't see these others topping the previous totals - AND, I AM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MOVE UP - I'm totally on-board just trying to be factual ---

[WVAPPeer]

Anyone who looks at the current membership in the SoCon and bemoans our departure has a far different set of expectations for our athletic programs than I do.

Again, can you show me anyone who bemoans not being in the current SoCon? I'm guessing you have read the earlier posts? Personally, I don't remember anyone saying that?

Anyone who argued against our move to the SunBelt was implicitly arguing to stay in the SoCon. The choice was SunBelt or SoCon. There were no other choices. What's your point?

And as I have said throughout the process, I think we have fans who place far too much emphasis on the post-season, and not enough emphasis on the regular season schedule. I enjoyed the playoffs and I enjoyed all three national championships (I was fortunate enough to get to Chattanooga for all three). Been there...done that...time to move on to another challenge.

"He not busy being born is busy dying."

Just don't believe you understand what myself and a couple of others are saying ---

[bcoach]

Anyone who looks at the current membership in the SoCon and bemoans our departure has a far different set of expectations for our athletic programs than I do.

Again, can you show me anyone who bemoans not being in the current SoCon? I'm guessing you have read the earlier posts? Personally, I don't remember anyone saying that?

Anyone who argued against our move to the SunBelt was implicitly arguing to stay in the SoCon. The choice was SunBelt or SoCon. There were no other choices. What's your point?

And as I have said throughout the process, I think we have fans who place far too much emphasis on the post-season, and not enough emphasis on the regular season schedule. I enjoyed the playoffs and I enjoyed all three national championships (I was fortunate enough to get to Chattanooga for all three). Been there...done that...time to move on to another challenge.

"He not busy being born is busy dying."

Just don't believe you understand what myself and a couple of others are saying ---

That is because they don't want to understand. They just want you to be wrong.

[NewApp]

I have no reason to believe it would not have. I was told before the season by more than one "insider" we had a deal in principal with an ACC school, the dates were the only pending item.

Charlie, Rick and Jay all deserve credit for this.

Saint, this post is not meant directly at you, but just folks in general. "Some" insiders also relayed that we were a "shoe in" for admittance to Conference USA. Much to most all of our chagrin, we know how that turned out.

[NewApp]

Anyone who looks at the current membership in the SoCon and bemoans our departure has a far different set of expectations for our athletic programs than I do.

Again, can you show me anyone who bemoans not being in the current SoCon? I'm guessing you have read the earlier posts? Personally, I don't remember anyone saying that?

Anyone who argued against our move to the SunBelt was implicitly arguing to stay in the SoCon. The choice was SunBelt or SoCon. There were no other choices. What's your point?

And as I have said throughout the process, I think we have fans who place far too much emphasis on the post-season, and not enough emphasis on the regular season schedule. I enjoyed the playoffs and I enjoyed all three national championships (I was fortunate enough to get to Chattanooga for all three). Been there...done that...time to move on to another challenge.

"He not busy being born is busy dying."

Just don't believe you understand what myself and a couple of others are saying ---

That is because they don't want to understand. They just want you to be wrong.

RP

[Appsolutely]

Anyone who looks at the current membership in the SoCon and bemoans our departure has a far different set of expectations for our athletic programs than I do.

Again, can you show me anyone who bemoans not being in the current SoCon? I'm guessing you have read the earlier posts? Personally, I don't remember anyone saying that?

Anyone who argued against our move to the SunBelt was implicitly arguing to stay in the SoCon. The choice was SunBelt or SoCon. There were no other choices. What's your point?

And as I have said throughout the process, I think we have fans who place far too much emphasis on the post-season, and not enough emphasis on the regular season schedule. I enjoyed the playoffs and I enjoyed all three national championships (I was fortunate enough to get to Chattanooga for all three). Been there...done that...time to move on to another challenge.

"He not busy being born is busy dying."

Just don't believe you understand what myself and a couple of others are saying ---

OK, I'll give it my best shot. What exactly are you saying?
And another question, why are you taking this so personally? Have you been specifically pointed out in a post as being "wrong?"

[WVAPPeer]

No,I am not taking this personal - not in the least - I have just posted several times over the last week what my feelings were and I guess I think everyone reads them all so I'm only saying that I have made it clear and anyone who wants to know how I feel can check my posts - Hey - and you didn't answer my question about attendance

[Appsolutely]

Anyone who looks at the current membership in the SoCon and bemoans our departure has a far different set of expectations for our athletic programs than I do.

Again, can you show me anyone who bemoans not being in the current SoCon? I'm guessing you have read the earlier posts? Personally, I don't remember anyone saying that?

Anyone who argued against our move to the SunBelt was implicitly arguing to stay in the SoCon. The choice was SunBelt or SoCon. There were no other choices. What's your point?

And as I have said throughout the process, I think we have fans who place far too much emphasis on the post-season, and not enough emphasis on the regular season schedule. I enjoyed the playoffs and I enjoyed all three national championships (I was fortunate enough to get to Chattanooga for all three). Been there...done that...time to move on to another challenge.

"He not busy being born is busy dying."

Just don't believe you understand what myself and a couple of others are saying ---

That is because they don't want to understand. They just want you to be wrong.

I have a problem with people that "don't want to understand." I also have a problem who people who can't admit that they may have been wrong.

[Appsolutely]

No,I am not taking this personal - not in the least - I have just posted several times over the last week what my feelings were and I guess I think everyone reads them all so I'm only saying that I have made it clear and anyone who wants to know how I feel can check my posts - Hey - and you didn't answer my question about attendance

I don't think the attendance question you asked was directed at me.

[JTApps1]

Not to be a jackwagon, but where were all these playoff loving App fans during our first round home exits to Nova and Illinois State. I remember being there and there were likely less that 16K at either game. I would expect a much better turnout for games against Wake; or Wyoming or SoMiss.

Hell man - those were GREAT CROWDS - where were you for the Maine game back in 2002? - there was about 3500 of us there - TOTAL !!!
I would say if the Idaho game on Thanksgiving weekend draws a better crowd that the playoff days then you have your answer ---
Also remember we had almost 32k for Elon, over 30k twice for WCU, over 30k for Montana, over 30k for Wofford and JACKSONVILLE --- WF certainly will break the all-time records if everything goes to plan but just don't see these others topping the previous totals - AND, I AM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MOVE UP - I'm totally on-board just trying to be factual ---

All of those crowds were before the recession really took hold of this country and we were winning 10+ games a year. Everyone loves a winner and the bandwagon fans were flocking to KBS. Once we start winning conference championships, going to bowls, and hosting these name team we will not only go back to those levels but beyond. If we have a good start to next year I imagine we will be pushing 30k or more for GS, ULL, and Ark State.

Even for this week with a bad record, a bad opponent, and very cold snowy weather we are down to around 400 tickets left. That's with GSU selling very few tickets.

[NewApp]

JT, lets just keep our fingers crossed that 90% so to speak of those ticket holders actually show up for the game despite the "iffy" weather Saturday!

[WVAPPeer]

Not to be a jackwagon, but where were all these playoff loving App fans during our first round home exits to Nova and Illinois State. I remember being there and there were likely less that 16K at either game. I would expect a much better turnout for games against Wake; or Wyoming or SoMiss.

Hell man - those were GREAT CROWDS - where were you for the Maine game back in 2002? - there was about 3500 of us there - TOTAL !!!
I would say if the Idaho game on Thanksgiving weekend draws a better crowd that the playoff days then you have your answer ---
Also remember we had almost 32k for Elon, over 30k twice for WCU, over 30k for Montana, over 30k for Wofford and JACKSONVILLE --- WF certainly will break the all-time records if everything goes to plan but just don't see these others topping the previous totals - AND, I AM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MOVE UP - I'm totally on-board just trying to be factual ---

All of those crowds were before the recession really took hold of this country and we were winning 10+ games a year. Everyone loves a winner and the bandwagon fans were flocking to KBS. Once we start winning conference championships, going to bowls, and hosting these name team we will not only go back to those levels but beyond. If we have a good start to next year I imagine we will be pushing 30k or more for GS, ULL, and Ark State.

Even for this week with a bad record, a bad opponent, and very cold snowy weather we are down to around 400 tickets left. That's with GSU selling very few tickets.

I agree with all you are saying JT and it goes more to your points as well - we had 30k for Jacksonville, Wofford, WCU twice, and Elon - NO NAME TEAMS to say the least - I think the Montana game could be an indicator of things in the future and they were A NAME TEAM at that time coming to The Rock --- I don't see us picking up much crowd from our conference opponents like we did before - minus GaSo

[bcoach]

I have a problem with people that "don't want to understand." I also have a problem who people who can't admit that they may have been wrong.[/quote]

Who was wrong and what were they wrong about?

[Saint3333]

I don't see us picking up much crowd from our conference opponents like we did before - minus GaSo

Other than WCU I have to laugh a this comment.

[WVAPPeer]

No,I am not taking this personal - not in the least - I have just posted several times over the last week what my feelings were and I guess I think everyone reads them all so I'm only saying that I have made it clear and anyone who wants to know how I feel can check my posts - Hey - and you didn't answer my question about attendance

I don't think the attendance question you asked was directed at me.

Yes you are right - I was wrong ---