No surprise that App State's win over Michigan makes the list.

http://www.southernpigskin.com/sec/grea ... s-schools/

SouthernPigskin wrote:No surprise that App State's win over Michigan makes the list.

http://www.southernpigskin.com/sec/grea ... s-schools/

I'll assume you have some connection to the site based on your username. Tell the person who wrote the article that App State wasn't Division II and to my knowledge, Michigan has NEVER scheduled a Division II opponent. We were, however the first FCS (formerly known as Division I-AA, not Division II), that Michigan scheduled.

SouthernPigskin wrote:No surprise that App State's win over Michigan makes the list.

http://www.southernpigskin.com/sec/grea ... s-schools/

"This was the first time in the history of the program that the Wolverines scheduled a Division II opponent. "

SMDH... So glad we both have moved up...

Of course I am biased to our win over UF, but App beating UM was probably an even bigger deal at the time.

oldfart wrote:

SouthernPigskin wrote:No surprise that App State's win over Michigan makes the list.

http://www.southernpigskin.com/sec/grea ... s-schools/

"This was the first time in the history of the program that the Wolverines scheduled a Division II opponent. "

SMDH... So glad we both have moved up...

Of course I am biased to our win over UF, but App beating UM was probably an even bigger deal at the time.

Probably? Even with a subjective viewpoint, you can't say beating UF was bigger. Michigan was #5 in the AP poll and was stocked with NFL talent. C'mon man.

oldfart wrote:

SouthernPigskin wrote:No surprise that App State's win over Michigan makes the list.

http://www.southernpigskin.com/sec/grea ... s-schools/

"This was the first time in the history of the program that the Wolverines scheduled a Division II opponent. "

SMDH... So glad we both have moved up...

Of course I am biased to our win over UF, but App beating UM was probably an even bigger deal at the time.

At the time and forever. Michigan was ranked fifth in the nation and while they lost to us and again the following week, they rallied to finish with a decent record and beat Florida in the bowl game.

The Florida team you guys beat last year was one of the worst in their history and sucked from the beginning of the season to the end. Still a nice win for the resume, certainly, but it does not even equal the Michigan win.

ASUMountaineer wrote:

oldfart wrote:

SouthernPigskin wrote:No surprise that App State's win over Michigan makes the list.

http://www.southernpigskin.com/sec/grea ... s-schools/

"This was the first time in the history of the program that the Wolverines scheduled a Division II opponent. "

SMDH... So glad we both have moved up...

Of course I am biased to our win over UF, but App beating UM was probably an even bigger deal at the time.

Probably? Even with a subjective viewpoint, you can't say beating UF was bigger. Michigan was #5 in the AP poll and was stocked with NFL talent. C'mon man.

Same Michigan team went on to SPANK Tim Tebows Gators in a bowl game that year.

I agree the UM win was a much more visible upset, but face it, you guys were loaded, had Lawnmower man, and eventually won a NC, while Michigan started the year very poorly and didn't take yall seriously in their opening game. I definitely considered it a big upset, but c'mon, you guys had a pretty good team that year(yet somehow you managed to lose to us ). On the other hand, Florida was definitely down last year but played USCar and thUGA tightly. We were pretty subpar with tons of injuries last year, unexpectedly breaking in a new QB, and we even got blown out by a bunch of hillbillies.-no comment.. We went down there with all of this going on and didn't complete a pass on an SEC team and really still should have won by 2 TDS or more. Definitely yours got more attention, and rightly so, but looking more closely at it, I think ours was just as impressive, of course I do wear my blue goggles from time to time.

oldfart wrote:I agree the UM win was a much more visible upset, but face it, you guys were loaded, had Lawnmower man, and eventually won a NC, while Michigan started the year very poorly and didn't take yall seriously in their opening game. I definitely considered it a big upset, but c'mon, you guys had a pretty good team that year(yet somehow you managed to lose to us ). On the other hand, Florida was definitely down last year but played USCar and thUGA tightly. We were pretty subpar with tons of injuries last year, unexpectedly breaking in a new QB, and we even got blown out by a bunch of hillbillies.-no comment.. We went down there with all of this going on and didn't complete a pass on an SEC team and really still should have won by 2 TDS or more. Definitely yours got more attention, and rightly so, but looking more closely at it, I think ours was just as impressive, of course I do wear my blue goggles from time to time.

oldfart wrote:I agree the UM win was a much more visible upset, but face it, you guys were loaded, had Lawnmower man, and eventually won a NC, while Michigan started the year very poorly and didn't take yall seriously in their opening game. I definitely considered it a big upset, but c'mon, you guys had a pretty good team that year(yet somehow you managed to lose to us ). On the other hand, Florida was definitely down last year but played USCar and thUGA tightly. We were pretty subpar with tons of injuries last year, unexpectedly breaking in a new QB, and we even got blown out by a bunch of hillbillies.-no comment.. We went down there with all of this going on and didn't complete a pass on an SEC team and really still should have won by 2 TDS or more. Definitely yours got more attention, and rightly so, but looking more closely at it, I think ours was just as impressive, of course I do wear my blue goggles from time to time.

Good Lord, UF's lineman were blocking each other.

I never did hear if they found the sniper that took out your DB.

You know, when I read stupid posts by stink fans, and that's what this one was, stupid, I amuse myself by voicing Cletus the slack-jawed yokel from the Simpsons.

AppinVA wrote:You know, when I read stupid posts by stink fans, and that's what this one was, stupid, I amuse myself by voicing Cletus the slack-jawed yokel from the Simpsons.

Best video I could find

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:

AppinVA wrote:You know, when I read stupid posts by stink fans, and that's what this one was, stupid, I amuse myself by voicing Cletus the slack-jawed yokel from the Simpsons.

Best video I could find

Hey maw. Get off the dang roof!

oldfart wrote:I agree the UM win was a much more visible upset, but face it, you guys were loaded, had Lawnmower man, and eventually won a NC, while Michigan started the year very poorly and didn't take yall seriously in their opening game. I definitely considered it a big upset, but c'mon, you guys had a pretty good team that year(yet somehow you managed to lose to us ). On the other hand, Florida was definitely down last year but played USCar and thUGA tightly. We were pretty subpar with tons of injuries last year, unexpectedly breaking in a new QB, and we even got blown out by a bunch of hillbillies.-no comment.. We went down there with all of this going on and didn't complete a pass on an SEC team and really still should have won by 2 TDS or more. Definitely yours got more attention, and rightly so, but looking more closely at it, I think ours was just as impressive, of course I do wear my blue goggles from time to time.

I think you have Ebola symptoms.

AppinVA wrote:

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:

AppinVA wrote:You know, when I read stupid posts by stink fans, and that's what this one was, stupid, I amuse myself by voicing Cletus the slack-jawed yokel from the Simpsons.

Best video I could find

Hey maw. Get off the dang roof!

Some folk'll will get a real degree and then again, some folk'll will attend Gnatsboro U.

oldfart wrote:I agree the UM win was a much more visible upset, but face it, you guys were loaded, had Lawnmower man, and eventually won a NC, while Michigan started the year very poorly and didn't take yall seriously in their opening game. I definitely considered it a big upset, but c'mon, you guys had a pretty good team that year(yet somehow you managed to lose to us ). On the other hand, Florida was definitely down last year but played USCar and thUGA tightly. We were pretty subpar with tons of injuries last year, unexpectedly breaking in a new QB, and we even got blown out by a bunch of hillbillies.-no comment.. We went down there with all of this going on and didn't complete a pass on an SEC team and really still should have won by 2 TDS or more. Definitely yours got more attention, and rightly so, but looking more closely at it, I think ours was just as impressive, of course I do wear my blue goggles from time to time.

Florida sucked last year and had given up on the season. Michigan was ranked high, had a ton of talent on the offensive side of the ball and had aspirations of a National title run. Whether or not Michigan took us lightly is irrelevant. Florida had quit. Michigan had a winning record and Florida not.

To be fair, how do you define an "upset"? Is it winning when no one expects you to? or winning with lower talent? As a diehard Black & Gold football alum, I like to think App/Mich was more about us being a lot more talented and well coached than the Herbie, Maize & Blue, and national media bunch thought we were. I think Lou Holtz hit the nail on the head. He said, paraphrasing, what I saw today was NOT an upset. Appalachian State was the better team and we need to take notice.

GSU was not nearly as talented as UF, but, as good triple option teams tend to do, they just out-executed a poorly performing UF squad. So, maybe the GOSO poster has a point. Despite what you see on the SunBelt Board, I think a few GaSo fans have some sense. I played against and then coached with a GaSo football alum and he understands. Makes that '07 team look better in my eyes. Embrace it, we were BETTER than UM, not just a lucky shot. I'm not saying it is so, just letting that sink in as a possibility.

Rick0714 wrote:To be fair, how do you define an "upset"? Is it winning when no one expects you to? or winning with lower talent? As a diehard Black & Gold football alum, I like to think App/Mich was more about us being a lot more talented and well coached than the Herbie, Maize & Blue, and national media bunch thought we were. I think Lou Holtz hit the nail on the head. He said, paraphrasing, what I saw today was NOT an upset. Appalachian State was the better team and we need to take notice.

GSU was not nearly as talented as UF, but, as good triple option teams tend to do, they just out-executed a poorly performing UF squad. So, maybe the GOSO poster has a point. Despite what you see on the SunBelt Board, I think a few GaSo fans have some sense. I played against and then coached with a GaSo football alum and he understands. Makes that '07 team look better in my eyes. Embrace it, we were BETTER than UM, not just a lucky shot. I'm not saying it is so, just letting that sink in as a possibility.

You may have a point. Still, I feel the GaSo poster was, well, being a GaSo poster. In their eyes, they had the greatest upset over a FBS team, even before they had a victory over one. It's just how their brain stems function.

Brian stem, now that is clever, unfortunately its likely target will not be able to grasp the concept.

Rick0714 wrote:To be fair, how do you define an "upset"? Is it winning when no one expects you to? or winning with lower talent? As a diehard Black & Gold football alum, I like to think App/Mich was more about us being a lot more talented and well coached than the Herbie, Maize & Blue, and national media bunch thought we were. I think Lou Holtz hit the nail on the head. He said, paraphrasing, what I saw today was NOT an upset. Appalachian State was the better team and we need to take notice.

GSU was not nearly as talented as UF, but, as good triple option teams tend to do, they just out-executed a poorly performing UF squad. So, maybe the GOSO poster has a point. Despite what you see on the SunBelt Board, I think a few GaSo fans have some sense. I played against and then coached with a GaSo football alum and he understands. Makes that '07 team look better in my eyes. Embrace it, we were BETTER than UM, not just a lucky shot. I'm not saying it is so, just letting that sink in as a possibility.

This is what I was trying to say but maybe I didn't say it clearly enough. I thought it wasn't as much of an upset as ours was over UF because App was good that year and won an NC. Definitely the UM game garnered more attention, it was an upset, but yall were better than Michigan, end of story. We were beat up, playing a SEC team with a freshman QB with most of our running backs injured or out entirely. I thought it was a bigger UPSET for us because of this. Florida still had a monster defense. Of course it wasn't nearly as publicized or polarizing as yours by any means because yours was a game 1 win shocking an FBS institution. However it came to bear later that yall were probably actually the better team. I gave yall props but if I'm not welcome, I could just say App sucks and leave, however I was trying to have a civil discussion.

oldfart wrote:

Rick0714 wrote:To be fair, how do you define an "upset"? Is it winning when no one expects you to? or winning with lower talent? As a diehard Black & Gold football alum, I like to think App/Mich was more about us being a lot more talented and well coached than the Herbie, Maize & Blue, and national media bunch thought we were. I think Lou Holtz hit the nail on the head. He said, paraphrasing, what I saw today was NOT an upset. Appalachian State was the better team and we need to take notice.

GSU was not nearly as talented as UF, but, as good triple option teams tend to do, they just out-executed a poorly performing UF squad. So, maybe the GOSO poster has a point. Despite what you see on the SunBelt Board, I think a few GaSo fans have some sense. I played against and then coached with a GaSo football alum and he understands. Makes that '07 team look better in my eyes. Embrace it, we were BETTER than UM, not just a lucky shot. I'm not saying it is so, just letting that sink in as a possibility.

This is what I was trying to say but maybe I didn't say it clearly enough. I thought it wasn't as much of an upset as ours was over UF because App was good that year and won an NC. Definitely the UM game garnered more attention, it was an upset, but yall were better than Michigan, end of story. We were beat up, playing a SEC team with a freshman QB with most of our running backs injured or out entirely. I thought it was a bigger UPSET for us because of this. Florida still had a monster defense. Of course it wasn't nearly as publicized or polarizing as yours by any means because yours was a game 1 win shocking an FBS institution. However it came to bear later that yall were probably actually the better team. I gave yall props but if I'm not welcome, I could just say App sucks and leave, however I was trying to have a civil discussion.

Both fair points but you do understand that upset is an objective term. GS kicked a team that was down and ready for the season to be over and APP beat a team that had National Title aspirations. Even though some of the shine came off the win the next week when Oregon demolished Michigan; Michigan did finish the season with a winning record. I haven't done the research but how many FBS teams that lost to an FCS team finished the year .500 or better?