Here is the dream! CUSA Pick up GSU, App and ULL. 16 team conference.

Marshall and ASU are old rivals as are ULL and Louisiana Tech. Also UNCC and App could become rivals.

Divisons would be:

East: App UNCC GSU Marshall ODU MTSU FAU FIU
West: LTECH NORTHTEXAS RICE SOUTHERNMISS UTEP UTSA WKU

Whoops forgot that ULL will go in the West conference

The dream is CUSA kicks out UNCC, relegating them to FCS, and adds App and GaSo

mtnjax wrote:The dream is CUSA kicks out UNCC, relegating them to FCS, and adds App and GaSo

Why is that more desirable than my solution? It would be fun to whoop up on UNCC

I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.

spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.

I'm perfectly happy in the Sun Belt for the next few years, but I do like this "Frenemies" conference of yours. That would be sweet!

spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.

Love it

spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.

Since this all a pipe dream I will add my two cents. I would drop Liberty for South Florida. Public institution and maintains a presence in the fertile recruiting grinds of Florida.

spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.

I like it. I'm happy with the Sun Belt and the competition level in the conference but I would really like a conference where our opponents are closer geographically. Plus I really would like to have an in-state conference rival. It would make the games that much more heated having fans living so closer to each other.

spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.

The idea of being in a conference with ECU is awesome.

The reality is that it will never happen.

They legitimately think they're ACC quality.

APPARJ wrote:

spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.

The idea of being in a conference with ECU is awesome.

The reality is that it will never happen.

They legitimately think they're ACC quality.

The ACC prides itself on academics and basketball and ECU just isn't up to par with them. I think we have higher academic standards than ECU? Am I wrong?

I would like to see this as a football only conference:

North:
Marshall
ODU
JMU
APP
UNCC
WKU

South:
GaSt
GaSo
UCF
USF
FIU
FAU

crossza wrote:

APPARJ wrote:

spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.

The idea of being in a conference with ECU is awesome.

The reality is that it will never happen.

They legitimately think they're ACC quality.

The ACC prides itself on academics and basketball and ECU just isn't up to par with them. I think we have higher academic standards than ECU? Am I wrong?

They have a medical school.

APPARJ wrote:

crossza wrote:

APPARJ wrote:

spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.

The idea of being in a conference with ECU is awesome.

The reality is that it will never happen.

They legitimately think they're ACC quality.

The ACC prides itself on academics and basketball and ECU just isn't up to par with them. I think we have higher academic standards than ECU? Am I wrong?

They have a medical school.

What about purely undergrad?

crossza wrote:

APPARJ wrote:

crossza wrote:

APPARJ wrote:

spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.

The idea of being in a conference with ECU is awesome.

The reality is that it will never happen.

They legitimately think they're ACC quality.

The ACC prides itself on academics and basketball and ECU just isn't up to par with them. I think we have higher academic standards than ECU? Am I wrong?

They have a medical school.

What about purely undergrad?

I don't know and frankly I don't care.

Academics isn't the issue. UCONN is a fine school and the ACC didn't want them. If Georgetown wanted to join the ACC with all sports they'd be declined.

It's all about $$$$$.

ECU couldn't generate the insane amount of cash as the other schools. I mean, UVA, UNC, Duke, Wake, Clemson and FSU etc... have boatloads of cash.

spong wrote:I can dream you one better.

ECU is not happy in the AAC. They wanted to play in a Power Conference and have ended up playing in CUSA 2.0. They went from a conference where they had some natural rivals to traveling to Temple to play in-front of 20,000 people. If ECU decided to start its own Geographically friend conference involving something along the lines of:

East Carolina
App State
Georgia Southern
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
JMU
Liberty
UNCC

With possibilities of adding: UMass, Georgia State, Western Kentucky, and Middle Tennessee
Especially if we want to form divisions and stage a conference championship game.

Maybe adding: Coastal Carolina, UTC, Delaware, and Charleston Southern
Since there is some chatter around them making the FBS transition.

Since Liberty seems to have endless amounts of money they will have to bear a lot of the start-up costs for a new conference and house the conference offices (which would be pretty central for the whole conference). Bringing in Navy would mean an automatic bowl tie-in to the and with several new bowl games in the works and the possibility of Charlotte adding a second smaller bowl game the conference shouldn't have problems getting bowl games.

This might seem like a far fetched idea but most experts feel that eventually conferences will become more geographically friendly. Why not pull together a few frien-emies and make it happen.

that totally makes..... 0 sense for ECU. And i mean zero.

I'm fine where we are the CUSA is not an upgrade.

"They legitimately think they're ACC quality."

Well they are in football ---

WVAPPeer wrote:"They legitimately think they're ACC quality."

Well they are in football ---

I wonder if there will ever come a day when conferences are divided up between football and every other sport.

In that case, yes, ECU is on par with some ACC schools. But the fact still remains that what makes an ACC school is cash, not quality.

G5 "PIPE DREAM" Conference:

North:
App St.
ECU
JMU
Marshall
ODU (Norfolk)
UNCC (Charlotte)

South:
GaSo
GaSt. (ATL)
Troy
UCF (Orlando)
USA (Mobile)
USF (Tampa)

Non-Football:
CoC
Davidson
FGCU
Winthrop

Create 5 bowl tie-ins:
#1 to Charlotte v #4 ACC
#2 to Orlando v #6 SEC
#3 to Mobile v #2 MAC/#3 CUSA
#4 to ATL (if GaSt gets Turner) v #6 ACC
#5 to Charleston v #4 CUSA/#3MAC

Seems like a good mix of football, basketball, baseball and soccer programs along with built in rivalries (everyone has an in-state rival for turkey weekend except ECU v Marshall) and fertile recruiting grounds. Good markets for tv contracts and destination cities for bowls.

APPARJ wrote: I wonder if there will ever come a day when conferences are divided up between football and every other sport.

In that case, yes, ECU is on par with some ACC schools. But the fact still remains that what makes an ACC school is cash, not quality.

I could see a scenario where the P5 schools break from the NCAA to basically become the minor league NFL, which would open up the possibility to dropping the official conference ties in the short term, and re-aligning in the long. I have no idea if the NCAA would allow it (punish the rest of the athletic program for football jumping ship), or if it would even be really possible to manage. But it wouldn't surprise me if several of the largest programs haven't already looked into it, at least a little.