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NCAAF Coaching Salaries

Unread post by moonshine » Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:37 pm

Satt: $375k (#120)

Others of Interest:
Fritz: $500k (#106) GaSo
Miles: $523.5k (#101) GaSt
Wilder: $550k (#95) ODU
McNeil: $1.4 mil (#62) ECU
Bohl: $882k (#76) WYO

All figures above are just what the school pays and does not include bonuses or other pay.


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Unread post by EastHallApp » Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:54 pm

Only one year left on his contract after this season, too. Hopefully Gillin is preparing to break out the checkbook sooner rather than later.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:22 pm

So we're not going to fire this guy?

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Unread post by TheMackAttack » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:27 pm

It looks like Satterfield is actually #127 because there's little doubt that those without listed salaries all make more than him. He's gotta be looking at a >25% raise in the near future and we better pony up for the assistant coaches, too.
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Unread post by asucrutch23 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:35 pm

He needs to be at $500,000.01

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Unread post by AppFan11 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:50 pm

1. ULL $1,053,000. 71
2. Ark. St. $700,000. 86
3. Troy. $660,000. 88
4. USA. $560,000. 97
5. Ga St. $527,000. 101
6. GASO. $500,000. 106
7. TXST. $427,000. 111
8. Idaho. $418,000. 113
9. NMST. $377,000. 119
10. App. $375,000. 120
11. ULM. $360,000. 121

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:18 am

Given the choice should App spend money to keep Satt or improve the stadium?

I'd rather keep Satt and Co.

We're going to need to raise our revenues either way.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:00 am

Saint3333 wrote:Given the choice should App spend money to keep Satt or improve the stadium?

I'd rather keep Satt and Co.

We're going to need to raise our revenues either way.
Agreed. Not that both aren't important and, on some level, necessary. But paying our coaches market value (or at least close to it) is the more immediate need, and far more important to the program IMO. It's also much cheaper than major stadium renovations.

Going to have the same issue soon with Jim Fox, BTW, if he keeps doing as good a job as I think he's doing.

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Unread post by APPdiesel » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:27 am

EastHallApp wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:Given the choice should App spend money to keep Satt or improve the stadium?

I'd rather keep Satt and Co.

We're going to need to raise our revenues either way.
Agreed. Not that both aren't important and, on some level, necessary. But paying our coaches market value (or at least close to it) is the more immediate need, and far more important to the program IMO. It's also much cheaper than major stadium renovations.

Going to have the same issue soon with Jim Fox, BTW, if he keeps doing as good a job as I think he's doing.
Jim Fox is only on year 2, so I don't think we're in an immediate need there, but if he turns app basketball into a winner - yeah.

I wouldn't be surprised if Scott is already on bigger schools' radars, but I'm hoping when his contract is due we'll pony up to make him stay. We have the luxury of him having played and coached under Jerry Moore, a guy who valued longevity at one school, at his Alma Mater to boot.

Scott is one of the lowest paid bc he was a first time head coach. It's an experiment. He's proven he can do it at a high level and when it's time to sign a new deal he should be rewarded.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:45 am

APPdiesel wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if Scott is already on bigger schools' radars, but I'm hoping when his contract is due we'll pony up to make him stay. We have the luxury of him having played and coached under Jerry Moore, a guy who valued longevity at one school, at his Alma Mater to boot.

Scott is one of the lowest paid bc he was a first time head coach. It's an experiment. He's proven he can do it at a high level and when it's time to sign a new deal he should be rewarded.

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Being a first-time HC is part of it. But he's not the only first-time coach out there. Jeff Brohm is a first-time HC at WKU, and he's making over $600,000, with another $450K in potential bonuses. Tony Sanchez at UNLV is a first-time coach in his first year, and he's making $560,000.

I think Satt's salary has more to do with transitioning from FCS, and the fact that we're still adjusting to the need to pay our coaches FBS salaries. That's understandable, it's just something we need to plan for in the very near future.

Personally, if we continue to do well this year, I hope Gillin signs Satt to a raise and extension after this year. I think it would be a mistake to wait until his deal is up. Yes, he's an alum, and he may value living in Boone and coaching at App. But if App wants him to give us any kind of hometown discount when other programs come calling, we need to show that we value him, too. A great way to do that would be to give him more security and higher pay proactively rather than waiting until we're forced to do so.
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Re: NCAAF Coaching Salaries

Unread post by hapapp » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:46 am

My daughter's boyfriend (a UVA fan) said that Satterfield's name has already graced one of their message boards.

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Unread post by AppFan11 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:59 am

It would not surprise me if we 11-1 or 10-2 and win a bowl game that Apps are going to have to probably double salary or close to keep him. M. London is making over $3m..... Going to have to up Woody's too

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:16 am

We're going to have to give the entire staff raises fairly soon, I think.

If one of the larger P5s comes calling offering huge cash, we aren't going to be able to compete financially with that anyway. IMO the goal should be to pay the coaches enough that they can justify turning down a more modest pay increase from a larger G5 or smaller P5.

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Unread post by AtlAppMan » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:18 am

Target should be 2x current and assuming we go 9-3 or better then it is imperative it happens at the end of this year. It's a fact that he is under paid now so don't play games with him. 2x will probably still be a great value for us now. Also if his upward trend continues we better already be thinking on how we handle his next step up the ladder.

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Unread post by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:32 am

Satterfield should be paid more...No doubt about it. Any coach that coaches our fine university deserves to be higher than second from the bottom in the Sun Belt. Especially given his recent success. His salary should take priority over stadium expansion. We need to pack the house more often for me to be convinced there is a need. I feel (Minus the track and letterhead endzones) everything about KBS is great as is.

I know Satt is a former player and coach (Before he returned as HC) but once those larger schools start calling and offer more money, it will be hard for us to compete. That is the sad reality of playing in a low conference and being successful.
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Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:34 am

First, I believe that Satterfield is underpaid in relation to the market, and I hope we can get close enough to his worth. Which, if we doubled his salary to $700,000, it'd still be on the low end, if, say, Virginia were to call.


That said, I was playing with some numbers. Wow! Athletics are expensive.
Presently, App is paying Satt $1,027.40 per day, before taxes. A coach that makes $1 million per year gets paid $2739.72 per day, while a coach that makes $3 million per year, makes $8,219.18 per day.

Again, I do think he is way undervalued, when compared with the market, but I doubt his kids will need free lunch any time soon.
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Unread post by asutrnr81 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:05 am

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:23 am

Another comparison to note: Blake Anderson, another first-time HC, also in the Sun Belt, who started one year after Satt, makes nearly double Satt's salary at $700K. And he isn't exactly producing double the results.

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Unread post by moonshine » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:33 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:It's a fact that he is under paid now so don't play games with him.
I know this is relative and related to market value but it's, for a lack of a better word, sad, that paying someone $375k is being "under paid." Does anyone know if App is Satt's "dream job"? If so, then I feel we could give him a modest bump in pay if the AD promises to compensate his staff well. I'd really like to see a model where the majority of coaches' pay be performance based but I know that won't happen.
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Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:49 pm

moonshine wrote:
AtlAppMan wrote:It's a fact that he is under paid now so don't play games with him.
I know this is relative and related to market value but it's, for a lack of a better word, sad, that paying someone $375k is being "under paid." Does anyone know if App is Satt's "dream job"? If so, then I feel we could give him a modest bump in pay if the AD promises to compensate his staff well. I'd really like to see a model where the majority of coaches' pay be performance based but I know that won't happen.
We are in agreement, but I also subscribe to the practice that you get what you can, when you can. If another school comes along and offers to double my salary to do basically the same job, I'm gone. Dream job be damned. My dream job is retirement.
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