Billy Jones Fired

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Re: Billy Jones Fired

Unread post by Goapps15 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:33 pm

AppDawg wrote:
ASU1999 wrote:If D2 Head Coaches is what we our looking for then we should take a look at Landon Powell from North Greenville. He is from NC, went to school at South Carolina, and caught a perfect game in the MLB! Took over a team that was 8-36 and won the school's first conference championship and led them to a Regional. Followed that up with a 35-14 campaign this year. Young guy couple years removed from pro ball already with an impressive track record as a coach.
No. No. No. He may have a good record, but I don't think he is what App needs. Sammy Esposito at South Carolina would be heads and shoulders better. Like with Sammy, I also grew up playing with and against Landon from little league through High School.
I respectfully disagree. We have already failed hiring one assistant coach. Unlike other sports having prior head coaching experience in baseball is of the utmost importance. We saw how much Billy struggled with the in-game decisions. As an assistant you don't have to make those decisions.

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Re: Billy Jones Fired

Unread post by AppDawg » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:24 pm

Goapps15 wrote:
AppDawg wrote:
ASU1999 wrote:If D2 Head Coaches is what we our looking for then we should take a look at Landon Powell from North Greenville. He is from NC, went to school at South Carolina, and caught a perfect game in the MLB! Took over a team that was 8-36 and won the school's first conference championship and led them to a Regional. Followed that up with a 35-14 campaign this year. Young guy couple years removed from pro ball already with an impressive track record as a coach.
No. No. No. He may have a good record, but I don't think he is what App needs. Sammy Esposito at South Carolina would be heads and shoulders better. Like with Sammy, I also grew up playing with and against Landon from little league through High School.
I respectfully disagree. We have already failed hiring one assistant coach. Unlike other sports having prior head coaching experience in baseball is of the utmost importance. We saw how much Billy struggled with the in-game decisions. As an assistant you don't have to make those decisions.
Generally I agree with your sentiments. However, and admittedly biased (on both Sammy and Landon), I think Sammy would be different. He was a lifelong catcher and catching coach at SC. He also is their recruiting coordinator. Further, I have always thought of the catching position as the QB of the baseball field. He grew up in his Daddy's NCSU clubhouse, learning from Coach Tanner and their current coach (name slipping my mind). He is highly regarded and respected in Gamecock land. I liken Sammy's experience to that of Coach Fox.

Yes, Landon was also a catcher, but he only has 2 years coaching experience compared to the many of Sammy. 2 years experience total is too "capel" for me.

Lastly, as far as BJ goes, he did have head coaching experience. His prior record head coaching was a mirror image of what we witnessed on the mountain. There is a reason he didn't have a head coaching gig for many years after his stint as HC. Unfortunately, CC did a friend a solid rather than doing his homework.

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Re: Billy Jones Fired

Unread post by Goapps15 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:33 pm

AppDawg wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:
AppDawg wrote:
ASU1999 wrote:If D2 Head Coaches is what we our looking for then we should take a look at Landon Powell from North Greenville. He is from NC, went to school at South Carolina, and caught a perfect game in the MLB! Took over a team that was 8-36 and won the school's first conference championship and led them to a Regional. Followed that up with a 35-14 campaign this year. Young guy couple years removed from pro ball already with an impressive track record as a coach.
No. No. No. He may have a good record, but I don't think he is what App needs. Sammy Esposito at South Carolina would be heads and shoulders better. Like with Sammy, I also grew up playing with and against Landon from little league through High School.
I respectfully disagree. We have already failed hiring one assistant coach. Unlike other sports having prior head coaching experience in baseball is of the utmost importance. We saw how much Billy struggled with the in-game decisions. As an assistant you don't have to make those decisions.
Generally I agree with your sentiments. However, and admittedly biased (on both Sammy and Landon), I think Sammy would be different. He was a lifelong catcher and catching coach at SC. He also is their recruiting coordinator. Further, I have always thought of the catching position as the QB of the baseball field. He grew up in his Daddy's NCSU clubhouse, learning from Coach Tanner and their current coach (name slipping my mind). He is highly regarded and respected in Gamecock land. I liken Sammy's experience to that of Coach Fox.

Yes, Landon was also a catcher, but he only has 2 years coaching experience compared to the many of Sammy. 2 years experience total is too "capel" for me.

Lastly, as far as BJ goes, he did have head coaching experience. His prior record head coaching was a mirror image of what we witnessed on the mountain. There is a reason he didn't have a head coaching gig for many years after his stint as HC. Unfortunately, CC did a friend a solid rather than doing his homework.
I was more in general rather than these two guys. Great points though. I agree catchers do usually pan out well as managers.

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Re: Billy Jones Fired

Unread post by T-Dog » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:25 pm

Blackandgold wrote:
bigCasu wrote:What Pollard did at App, it took him half the time to do at Duke. Imagine what he could do at Texas
I think you'll see pollard moving on up again within the next 3 years. How about Texas next year? Idk if he's done enough for Texas to hire him, but my gosh, he'd dominate there.
Texas is going to hire Florida's coach. The Gators, even though they're #1, can't compete with Texas money.

I want a head coach more than an assistant coach, unless that assistant is a virtual slam dunk.

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Re: Billy Jones Fired

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:21 am

Goapps15 wrote:
AppDawg wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:
AppDawg wrote:
ASU1999 wrote:If D2 Head Coaches is what we our looking for then we should take a look at Landon Powell from North Greenville. He is from NC, went to school at South Carolina, and caught a perfect game in the MLB! Took over a team that was 8-36 and won the school's first conference championship and led them to a Regional. Followed that up with a 35-14 campaign this year. Young guy couple years removed from pro ball already with an impressive track record as a coach.
No. No. No. He may have a good record, but I don't think he is what App needs. Sammy Esposito at South Carolina would be heads and shoulders better. Like with Sammy, I also grew up playing with and against Landon from little league through High School.
I respectfully disagree. We have already failed hiring one assistant coach. Unlike other sports having prior head coaching experience in baseball is of the utmost importance. We saw how much Billy struggled with the in-game decisions. As an assistant you don't have to make those decisions.
Generally I agree with your sentiments. However, and admittedly biased (on both Sammy and Landon), I think Sammy would be different. He was a lifelong catcher and catching coach at SC. He also is their recruiting coordinator. Further, I have always thought of the catching position as the QB of the baseball field. He grew up in his Daddy's NCSU clubhouse, learning from Coach Tanner and their current coach (name slipping my mind). He is highly regarded and respected in Gamecock land. I liken Sammy's experience to that of Coach Fox.

Yes, Landon was also a catcher, but he only has 2 years coaching experience compared to the many of Sammy. 2 years experience total is too "capel" for me.

Lastly, as far as BJ goes, he did have head coaching experience. His prior record head coaching was a mirror image of what we witnessed on the mountain. There is a reason he didn't have a head coaching gig for many years after his stint as HC. Unfortunately, CC did a friend a solid rather than doing his homework.
I was more in general rather than these two guys. Great points though. I agree catchers do usually pan out well as managers.
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Re: Billy Jones Fired

Unread post by Blackandgold » Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:33 am

T-Dog wrote:
Blackandgold wrote:
bigCasu wrote:What Pollard did at App, it took him half the time to do at Duke. Imagine what he could do at Texas
I think you'll see pollard moving on up again within the next 3 years. How about Texas next year? Idk if he's done enough for Texas to hire him, but my gosh, he'd dominate there.
Texas is going to hire Florida's coach. The Gators, even though they're #1, can't compete with Texas money.

I want a head coach more than an assistant coach, unless that assistant is a virtual slam dunk.
Of course Texas would want Kevin O'Sullivan or Tim Corbin, but idk if they would leave Florida or vandy. Texas money hasn't always bought them what they want.

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Re: Billy Jones Fired

Unread post by App91 » Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:55 am

AppDawg wrote:
ASU1999 wrote:If D2 Head Coaches is what we our looking for then we should take a look at Landon Powell from North Greenville. He is from NC, went to school at South Carolina, and caught a perfect game in the MLB! Took over a team that was 8-36 and won the school's first conference championship and led them to a Regional. Followed that up with a 35-14 campaign this year. Young guy couple years removed from pro ball already with an impressive track record as a coach.
No. No. No. He may have a good record, but I don't think he is what App needs. Sammy Esposito at South Carolina would be heads and shoulders better. Like with Sammy, I also grew up playing with and against Landon from little league through High School.
With a flame like that, you are going to have to elaborate! In what way?

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Re: Billy Jones Fired

Unread post by AppDawg » Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:14 am

App91 wrote:
AppDawg wrote:
ASU1999 wrote:If D2 Head Coaches is what we our looking for then we should take a look at Landon Powell from North Greenville. He is from NC, went to school at South Carolina, and caught a perfect game in the MLB! Took over a team that was 8-36 and won the school's first conference championship and led them to a Regional. Followed that up with a 35-14 campaign this year. Young guy couple years removed from pro ball already with an impressive track record as a coach.
No. No. No. He may have a good record, but I don't think he is what App needs. Sammy Esposito at South Carolina would be heads and shoulders better. Like with Sammy, I also grew up playing with and against Landon from little league through High School.
With a flame like that, you are going to have to elaborate! In what way?
See my response above to GoApps15.

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Re: Billy Jones Fired

Unread post by Blackandgold » Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:29 pm

T-Dog wrote:
Blackandgold wrote:
bigCasu wrote:What Pollard did at App, it took him half the time to do at Duke. Imagine what he could do at Texas
I think you'll see pollard moving on up again within the next 3 years. How about Texas next year? Idk if he's done enough for Texas to hire him, but my gosh, he'd dominate there.
Texas is going to hire Florida's coach. The Gators, even though they're #1, can't compete with Texas money.

I want a head coach more than an assistant coach, unless that assistant is a virtual slam dunk.
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