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Re: Early season tournaments / scheduling

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Re: Early season tournaments / scheduling

Unread post by appst89 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:35 am

William Peace - DIII
Hartford - Transitioning to DIII from DI
Boyce - DII
Erskine - DII

Six non-conference home games; four of them are, or soon will be, less than DI. This is not the way to build interest in the basketball program.



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Re: Early season tournaments / scheduling

Unread post by WASU 93 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:05 am

appst89 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:35 am
William Peace - DIII
Hartford - Transitioning to DIII from DI
Boyce - DII
Erskine - DII

Six non-conference home games; four of them are, or soon will be, less than DI. This is not the way to build interest in the basketball program.
Half full or Half Empty:

You open at Iona, who has been to the Dance 5 out of the last 6 years. We have games against Charlotte and ETSU at home, which could draw great crowds (COVID-pending). We play at Furman, which has been competitive and is a drivable game for those alumni in the UpState and Charlotte markets. We have a tourney in South Florida (Rice, Evansville, Vermont, Oakland, Akron, Fordham and Delaware) And, there's those trips to Cameron and the Dean Dome, which our two of the highest profile games in recent memory.

Sure, we'd prefer not to play D3 games, but Kearns may be balancing the schedule a little.



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Re: Early season tournaments / scheduling

Unread post by hapapp » Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:10 am

WASU 93 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:05 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:35 am
William Peace - DIII
Hartford - Transitioning to DIII from DI
Boyce - DII
Erskine - DII

Six non-conference home games; four of them are, or soon will be, less than DI. This is not the way to build interest in the basketball program.
Half full or Half Empty:

You open at Iona, who has been to the Dance 5 out of the last 6 years. We have games against Charlotte and ETSU at home, which could draw great crowds (COVID-pending). We play at Furman, which has been competitive and is a drivable game for those alumni in the UpState and Charlotte markets. We have a tourney in South Florida (Rice, Evansville, Vermont, Oakland, Akron, Fordham and Delaware) And, there's those trips to Cameron and the Dean Dome, which our two of the highest profile games in recent memory.

Sure, we'd prefer not to play D3 games, but Kearns may be balancing the schedule a little.
I don't think he is dogging the entire schedule, just the home portion. It is good to have Charlotte and ETSU coming to Boone but otherwise the non-con sked is pretty similar to year's past.



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Re: Early season tournaments / scheduling

Unread post by appst89 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:11 am

WASU 93 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:05 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:35 am
William Peace - DIII
Hartford - Transitioning to DIII from DI
Boyce - DII
Erskine - DII

Six non-conference home games; four of them are, or soon will be, less than DI. This is not the way to build interest in the basketball program.
Half full or Half Empty:

You open at Iona, who has been to the Dance 5 out of the last 6 years. We have games against Charlotte and ETSU at home, which could draw great crowds (COVID-pending). We play at Furman, which has been competitive and is a drivable game for those alumni in the UpState and Charlotte markets. We have a tourney in South Florida (Rice, Evansville, Vermont, Oakland, Akron, Fordham and Delaware) And, there's those trips to Cameron and the Dean Dome, which our two of the highest profile games in recent memory.

Sure, we'd prefer not to play D3 games, but Kearns may be balancing the schedule a little.
The overall schedule is not bad, but the discussion on this board for years has been about how we get the students to consistently come to games in Holmes. This isn't it.



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Re: Early season tournaments / scheduling

Unread post by WASU 93 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:35 am

appst89 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:11 am
WASU 93 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:05 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:35 am
William Peace - DIII
Hartford - Transitioning to DIII from DI
Boyce - DII
Erskine - DII

Six non-conference home games; four of them are, or soon will be, less than DI. This is not the way to build interest in the basketball program.
Half full or Half Empty:

You open at Iona, who has been to the Dance 5 out of the last 6 years. We have games against Charlotte and ETSU at home, which could draw great crowds (COVID-pending). We play at Furman, which has been competitive and is a drivable game for those alumni in the UpState and Charlotte markets. We have a tourney in South Florida (Rice, Evansville, Vermont, Oakland, Akron, Fordham and Delaware) And, there's those trips to Cameron and the Dean Dome, which our two of the highest profile games in recent memory.

Sure, we'd prefer not to play D3 games, but Kearns may be balancing the schedule a little.
The overall schedule is not bad, but the discussion on this board for years has been about how we get the students to consistently come to games in Holmes. This isn't it.
I get your point. But, what games would draw students?
I'm not sure that the teams matter to students (outside of an ACC opponent) in regards to attendance. My thought is that you either go to the games for the fun and atmosphere or your don't. If you replaced the D3 with UNC-Greensboro, UNC-Wilmington, Liberty, Marshall, James Madison, Middle Tennessee State, etc. would it impact student attendance?
This schedule may affect alumni and general public interest more.



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Re: Early season tournaments / scheduling

Unread post by appst89 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:41 am

WASU 93 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:35 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:11 am
WASU 93 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:05 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:35 am
William Peace - DIII
Hartford - Transitioning to DIII from DI
Boyce - DII
Erskine - DII

Six non-conference home games; four of them are, or soon will be, less than DI. This is not the way to build interest in the basketball program.
Half full or Half Empty:

You open at Iona, who has been to the Dance 5 out of the last 6 years. We have games against Charlotte and ETSU at home, which could draw great crowds (COVID-pending). We play at Furman, which has been competitive and is a drivable game for those alumni in the UpState and Charlotte markets. We have a tourney in South Florida (Rice, Evansville, Vermont, Oakland, Akron, Fordham and Delaware) And, there's those trips to Cameron and the Dean Dome, which our two of the highest profile games in recent memory.

Sure, we'd prefer not to play D3 games, but Kearns may be balancing the schedule a little.
The overall schedule is not bad, but the discussion on this board for years has been about how we get the students to consistently come to games in Holmes. This isn't it.
I get your point. But, what games would draw students?
I'm not sure that the teams matter to students (outside of an ACC opponent) in regards to attendance. My thought is that you either go to the games for the fun and atmosphere or your don't. If you replaced the D3 with UNC-Greensboro, UNC-Wilmington, Liberty, Marshall, James Madison, Middle Tennessee State, etc. would it impact student attendance?
This schedule may affect alumni and general public interest more.
It's a great question, and I don't know if I know either. But we've seen this type of home schedule before and we know what attendance numbers have been. Trying something different can't hurt.

For the sake of analysis, we should compare the attendance for UNCC and ETSU to all the other home games, and pay particular attention to the number of students in attendance. The student number may just be based on eyeballing the crowd, but that should give some indication as to whether the opponent matters.



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Re: Early season tournaments / scheduling

Unread post by WASU 93 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:24 pm

appst89 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:41 am
WASU 93 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:35 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:11 am
WASU 93 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:05 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:35 am
William Peace - DIII
Hartford - Transitioning to DIII from DI
Boyce - DII
Erskine - DII

Six non-conference home games; four of them are, or soon will be, less than DI. This is not the way to build interest in the basketball program.
Half full or Half Empty:

You open at Iona, who has been to the Dance 5 out of the last 6 years. We have games against Charlotte and ETSU at home, which could draw great crowds (COVID-pending). We play at Furman, which has been competitive and is a drivable game for those alumni in the UpState and Charlotte markets. We have a tourney in South Florida (Rice, Evansville, Vermont, Oakland, Akron, Fordham and Delaware) And, there's those trips to Cameron and the Dean Dome, which our two of the highest profile games in recent memory.

Sure, we'd prefer not to play D3 games, but Kearns may be balancing the schedule a little.
The overall schedule is not bad, but the discussion on this board for years has been about how we get the students to consistently come to games in Holmes. This isn't it.
I get your point. But, what games would draw students?
I'm not sure that the teams matter to students (outside of an ACC opponent) in regards to attendance. My thought is that you either go to the games for the fun and atmosphere or your don't. If you replaced the D3 with UNC-Greensboro, UNC-Wilmington, Liberty, Marshall, James Madison, Middle Tennessee State, etc. would it impact student attendance?
This schedule may affect alumni and general public interest more.
It's a great question, and I don't know if I know either. But we've seen this type of home schedule before and we know what attendance numbers have been. Trying something different can't hurt.

For the sake of analysis, we should compare the attendance for UNCC and ETSU to all the other home games, and pay particular attention to the number of students in attendance. The student number may just be based on eyeballing the crowd, but that should give some indication as to whether the opponent matters.
I agree. Fortunately, we have one of those games as a lead in to a Football home game and the other is on a Thursday night , pre-Thanksgiving.
Hopefully, the success of last season will spur an increase in attendance from both students and alumni. It only takes a few rowdy crowds coupled with some wins to improve the home atmosphere.



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Re: Early season tournaments / scheduling

Unread post by agentpaul001 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:53 am

Looking back over past couple decades it feels like one of our better schedules. It'll be a fun November, wild to believe the season is just 56 days away!



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