The ASU coaching search and potential candidates to discuss

[Maddog1956]

watched this morning Pearl getting off a private jet in Auburn, you would have thought it was the second coming of John Wooden, Pearl was at his best, cracking jokes, bragged about how much money they were paying him, hugging everyone within arms reach, this guy loves attention. It will be interesting to see if he can follow the rules, I think he will be on his best behavior for the first couple of years because the NCAA will be watching closely, but, honestly, he is coaching at a University that has a reputation that is all about winning, and if the coaches cheat to win, and they don't get caught, the administration is fine with that. I wonder once he starts winning, and he feels "bullet proof" like he did at Tenn will he go back to his old ways.

Maybe or he could be pressured to win big and win quick. He might not get caught but I have a feeling that while he's in the "gray area" that they don't know what he will do, that he breaks the rules talking with someone.

[APPARJ]

based off the rumor mill (which we know is always right) here is where we are right now:

App State has no interest in Matt McMahon and if offered the job he would probably turn it down.

Bobby Lutz, the former coach of UNCC and current assistant at NC State, is our top candidate.

MIke Rhoades, current assistant at VCU and former successful head coach at the D3 level, is a close secondary candidate.

Derrick Clark, the coach at Metro State (D2), is a fall-back candidate.

Based off of comparable it looks App is looking to spend between $200,000 and $300,000 on a coach.

Bobby Lutz is making around $225,000 right now at NC State. He seems to be happy and is winning games. If he really wants to be a head coach again his name is also coming up for the UNCW job.

Mike Rhoades' name has come up for the FIU job. Based off comparable they are looking to pay him around $250,000.

Both of these coaches will probably have their names on several coaching lists for other school in coming days.

As of now Derrick Clark's name has not appeared on any other lists and it is unexpected for it to since few D1 schools look to D2 schools for coaches.

I think Cobb might be floating the idea that Matt would turn down the job to cover himself for not going after McMahon. I know he would be interested in the job if he was a candidate.

Your info on Lutz backs up what I was told Sunday evening.

If App State offered Matt McMahon the head coaching position he would take it. Period.

I have no idea what spong is talking about.

[ASUMountaineer]

based off the rumor mill (which we know is always right) here is where we are right now:

App State has no interest in Matt McMahon and if offered the job he would probably turn it down.

Bobby Lutz, the former coach of UNCC and current assistant at NC State, is our top candidate.

MIke Rhoades, current assistant at VCU and former successful head coach at the D3 level, is a close secondary candidate.

Derrick Clark, the coach at Metro State (D2), is a fall-back candidate.

Based off of comparable it looks App is looking to spend between $200,000 and $300,000 on a coach.

Bobby Lutz is making around $225,000 right now at NC State. He seems to be happy and is winning games. If he really wants to be a head coach again his name is also coming up for the UNCW job.

Mike Rhoades' name has come up for the FIU job. Based off comparable they are looking to pay him around $250,000.

Both of these coaches will probably have their names on several coaching lists for other school in coming days.

As of now Derrick Clark's name has not appeared on any other lists and it is unexpected for it to since few D1 schools look to D2 schools for coaches.

I think Cobb might be floating the idea that Matt would turn down the job to cover himself for not going after McMahon. I know he would be interested in the job if he was a candidate.

Your info on Lutz backs up what I was told Sunday evening.

If App State offered Matt McMahon the head coaching position he would take it. Period.

I have no idea what spong is talking about.

Two guys that just joined in the last two weeks. I have no idea who is in the know. I'm content, at this point, to sit back and watch. We'll know something soon.

[ASUPATCH]

don't know the housing market in Boone, but I live in South Florida, FIU is 20 minutes from Miami, an average home in a decent neighborhood will probably run you in the mid to high 200's. Also the cost of living here is SF, especially in Miami, is high, higher than most if not all communities in NC, again, I don't know what it cost to live in Boone, but I cant imagine its higher than Miami.

I have lived in both and Boone is defiantly higher. Also there is not state income tax in FL so your money goes further. That being said you could not pay me enough money to move back there. I like seasons and friendly neighbors.

[MAD Doctor]

Lutz was an excellent coach and recruiter until the program moved to the A-10. For some reason, he seemed to think his team was too good for that, which is ironic because the A-10 turned out to be a much stronger conference-one in which UNcc was never even competitive. I believe he thought he was the coach for life, and was truly shocked when Judy showed him the door.
When he was "all-in" he was very good, highly energetic, and nationally respected. When he wasn't- he looked like he'd rather be watching paint dry.
I'm fine with a Lutz hire, as long as he shows he still has fire in the belly. Being from the area may result in him staying longer. I've got to admit, seeing him coaching against Judy would be an interesting sight.

[EastHallApp]

Being from the area may result in him staying longer.

What would likely cause him to stay longer would be lack of demand. High-majors typically aren't beating down the doors of small-school coaches in their late-50s who have already been fired from one mid-major job.

[MAD Doctor]

Being from the area may result in him staying longer.

What would likely cause him to stay longer would be lack of demand. High-majors typically aren't beating down the doors of small-school coaches in their late-50s who have already been fired from one mid-major job.

Well, he is also currently the Associate Head Coach of an NC State team who is in the NCAA tournament with a good shot at the Sweet Sixteen. Furthermore, his UNCc teams reached the NCAA Tournament five times (1999, 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2005), and NIT three times (2000, 2006 and 2008) while he was coach. In 2005 he was a finalist for the Jim Phelan National Coach of the Year Award.
I believe Rhoads would be a great hire, but Lutz is definitely not just a late-50's fired coach. His 5 NCAA tournament appearances in 7 years while competing against Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, and Marquette is not too shabby either. Compares rather well against a 1-A high school coach from eastern NC too.

[WVAPPeer]

based off the rumor mill (which we know is always right) here is where we are right now:

App State has no interest in Matt McMahon and if offered the job he would probably turn it down.

Bobby Lutz, the former coach of UNCC and current assistant at NC State, is our top candidate.

MIke Rhoades, current assistant at VCU and former successful head coach at the D3 level, is a close secondary candidate.

Derrick Clark, the coach at Metro State (D2), is a fall-back candidate.

Based off of comparable it looks App is looking to spend between $200,000 and $300,000 on a coach.

Bobby Lutz is making around $225,000 right now at NC State. He seems to be happy and is winning games. If he really wants to be a head coach again his name is also coming up for the UNCW job.

Mike Rhoades' name has come up for the FIU job. Based off comparable they are looking to pay him around $250,000.

Both of these coaches will probably have their names on several coaching lists for other school in coming days.

As of now Derrick Clark's name has not appeared on any other lists and it is unexpected for it to since few D1 schools look to D2 schools for coaches.

I think Cobb might be floating the idea that Matt would turn down the job to cover himself for not going after McMahon. I know he would be interested in the job if he was a candidate.

Your info on Lutz backs up what I was told Sunday evening.

If App State offered Matt McMahon the head coaching position he would take it. Period.

I have no idea what spong is talking about.

apparj - not sure about the source of your info about Matt absolutely taking the job if offered - not saying your source is not correct but I must add that I asked a close friend whose best friend is Matt's dad and he told me this morning that it was very doubtful that Matt would take it even if offered ---

[spong]

Mike Rhodes is making about $140,000 at VCU right now. This is around what Coach Capel was making. One would think that if we pony up and offer him the salary of a proven coach that he'd really take a look at it.

[The Annoying Peasant]

based off the rumor mill (which we know is always right) here is where we are right now:

App State has no interest in Matt McMahon and if offered the job he would probably turn it down.

Bobby Lutz, the former coach of UNCC and current assistant at NC State, is our top candidate.

MIke Rhoades, current assistant at VCU and former successful head coach at the D3 level, is a close secondary candidate.

Derrick Clark, the coach at Metro State (D2), is a fall-back candidate.

Based off of comparable it looks App is looking to spend between $200,000 and $300,000 on a coach.

Bobby Lutz is making around $225,000 right now at NC State. He seems to be happy and is winning games. If he really wants to be a head coach again his name is also coming up for the UNCW job.

Mike Rhoades' name has come up for the FIU job. Based off comparable they are looking to pay him around $250,000.

Both of these coaches will probably have their names on several coaching lists for other school in coming days.

As of now Derrick Clark's name has not appeared on any other lists and it is unexpected for it to since few D1 schools look to D2 schools for coaches.

Don't know who is spreading those rumors about Matt. Spoke to him a few days ago and assure you he is interested. Probably for a lot less than what Lutz will demand. Matt loves ASU and harbors no ill will towards Cobb, but doesn't think Charlie will reach out to him.

[hapapp]

Being from the area may result in him staying longer.

What would likely cause him to stay longer would be lack of demand. High-majors typically aren't beating down the doors of small-school coaches in their late-50s who have already been fired from one mid-major job.

Well, he is also currently the Associate Head Coach of an NC State team who is in the NCAA tournament with a good shot at the Sweet Sixteen. Furthermore, his UNCc teams reached the NCAA Tournament five times (1999, 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2005), and NIT three times (2000, 2006 and 2008) while he was coach. In 2005 he was a finalist for the Jim Phelan National Coach of the Year Award.
I believe Rhoads would be a great hire, but Lutz is definitely not just a late-50's fired coach. His 5 NCAA tournament appearances in 7 years while competing against Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, and Marquette is not too shabby either. Compares rather well against a 1-A high school coach from eastern NC too.

Won't they likely have to beat Louisville to do that?

[MAD Doctor]

Won't they likely have to beat Louisville to do that?

No, the Manhattan Jaspers. Haven't you seen my bracket?

[EastHallApp]

Being from the area may result in him staying longer.

What would likely cause him to stay longer would be lack of demand. High-majors typically aren't beating down the doors of small-school coaches in their late-50s who have already been fired from one mid-major job.

Well, he is also currently the Associate Head Coach of an NC State team who is in the NCAA tournament with a good shot at the Sweet Sixteen. Furthermore, his UNCc teams reached the NCAA Tournament five times (1999, 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2005), and NIT three times (2000, 2006 and 2008) while he was coach. In 2005 he was a finalist for the Jim Phelan National Coach of the Year Award.
I believe Rhoads would be a great hire, but Lutz is definitely not just a late-50's fired coach. His 5 NCAA tournament appearances in 7 years while competing against Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, and Marquette is not too shabby either. Compares rather well against a 1-A high school coach from eastern NC too.

If that's enough to attract a high-major offer, then I expect he'll go ahead and accept such an offer now, and App can look elsewhere. I don't think that will be the case, though.

[hapapp]

Won't they likely have to beat Louisville to do that?

No, the Manhattan Jaspers. Haven't you seen my bracket?

Can't believe I overlooked that!

[Mountainrunner1]

Bobby Lutz will be the new Head Coach at App State.

[Rekdiver]

That would be fine. A chance to prove that Charlotte was wrong to let him go and he will be ever grateful for the opportunity. He knows it could be his last. He could be the Jerry Moore of basketball.

[moehler]

If Lutz is the next coach he will bring stability to the program, but not much else, at this point in his career he is a "caretaker", you have to wonder if he will come in with alot of energy, determined to do a great job, or will he be happy with a 500 record most years.

[Gonzo]

That would be fine. A chance to prove that Charlotte was wrong to let him go and he will be ever grateful for the opportunity. He knows it could be his last. He could be the Jerry Moore of basketball.

Charlotte? Oh, you mean UNCC.

[p3y]

If were talking D2 Head Coaches, Linc Darner should be at the top of the list.

Best winning percentage From(07-present) among all Florida NCAA schools(yes even the GATORS)school
at .77%, GATORs at .73.

Ranked 2nd in wins among all Florida NCAA schools since 07-08 season at 174. GATORS are number one but they also play more games than D2.

3 teams in D2 to have 20 plus win seasons since 07-08 season to present.
1 of 2 NCAA schools to play in NCAA Tournament past seven seasons.

5 Coach of the year awards
5 SSC conference championships
5 SSC Conference Tournament Championships
Team Avgs over 80 plus points a game for last 7 seasons.
Rebuilt 2 programs!!!!

Brother(Tige) is a former player for the Mountaineers

Proven winner!

[appgrouch]

That would be fine. A chance to prove that Charlotte was wrong to let him go and he will be ever grateful for the opportunity. He knows it could be his last. He could be the Jerry Moore of basketball.

We don't need someone out to prove something. They generally are not the best builders. Moore was a "solid" coach, but as people on this board said, he did not want to move up and except when they went away from his system was when they had success in the playoffs.