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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by JTApps1 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:34 pm

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Could someone explain the parking for basketball? Last year we parked in Rivers Street Deck and it's fine but I wanted to see about maybe parking in the Holmes deck for the next home game. Thanks!
Yosef Club members can buy a pass for the new deck. The information is hard to find. I had no idea when I went up the the Troy game. Had to find out when trying to turn off f Rivers Street. The deck wasn't even half full while most fans had to walk with temps in the teens and strong winds. Not a fan friendly move.
What about it is not fan friendly?
We promoted this new 600 space deck as a way to make parking better for those attending basketball games. This has always been the number one issue with HCC. So now we have a solution, but we're going to limit it for no good reason without really getting that message out to the fanbase. That deck should be available to anyone with JET, University Drive, and Rivers Street deck being overflow for highly attended games. An average of 3 people per car would mean 1,800 fans could take advantage of the new deck. That's a large portion of our typical crowd. We had no idea the JET lot was an option because the sign on Rivers Street said only pass holders could turn onto Hill Street.

I agree it should be a benefit included with season ticket holders, but everyone else should have the option to pay at the gate. Last I had heard, there was going to be a level or two reserved for season ticket holders and then the higher levels would be available to other on first come basis. What happened to that plan? I'd be happy to pay $5 or $10 to park there on a cold night even as a YC member since I don't have season tickets. It's kind of like the talk of having a Club Room in the NEZ that never materialized and then they suddenly got rid of it completely. We're being asked to give more every year but getting less. We just do a lot of things that make it difficult on fans and/or don't show appreciation for those that support the program.
Appreciate the response and I certainly understand the sentiment and your questions on the process are fair. As a season ticket holder, I can park anywhere on levels 3-6. I’m not sure how many levels there are but 6 seems about right. As to the unused spaces being used on a first come first serve basis, we need more information. For instance, how many of those spaces would be available for non pass holders on a per game basis? I don’t think that all 600 spaces are available for ticket holders, but let’s say 500 are and you sold 400 passes. That leaves you with 100 spaces for first come first serve. How do you manage that traffic flow to discern the cutoff to first come first serve while not clogging up the right of way for season ticket holders?

I’m sure that there is a solution to be found but it’s the first year with the deck so there could be some unknowns that needed to be vetted before landing on an ideal plan to maximize revenue. To me, they could do something like Marshall and Coastal have done for their parking and create a purchase option on Paciolan where there are digital passes that can be purchased for unaccounted for spaces.

I’d encourage anyone with ideas that benefit the masses and the school to convey them via email to MAF.
I'd be surprised if we had 400-500 passes given normal attendance, but lets go with it and say we have 150 spots available. That's going to be roughly 1.5 levels of the deck for non-season ticket holders. Give your cashiers 150 tickets to sell and have them inform single game buyers they have to go to floors five and six. Tell them if any car without a hang tag is found below those levels they'll be towed. Have traffic enforcement ready to put out a lot full sign on Hill Street once you're close to selling the 150 spaces. Redirect those in line to the JET lot across the street. If JET is also full, have them drive up Hill Street to ether turn around or park in that lot. Wave them through on the way back down just like one of residents that live up that street. It just takes a slight amount of coordination. They should be able to handle a few hundred cars if my company can park a few thousand cars for events on a regular basis.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:55 pm

JTApps1 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:34 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:52 am
JTApps1 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:10 am
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Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:33 pm
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Yosef Club members can buy a pass for the new deck. The information is hard to find. I had no idea when I went up the the Troy game. Had to find out when trying to turn off f Rivers Street. The deck wasn't even half full while most fans had to walk with temps in the teens and strong winds. Not a fan friendly move.
What about it is not fan friendly?
We promoted this new 600 space deck as a way to make parking better for those attending basketball games. This has always been the number one issue with HCC. So now we have a solution, but we're going to limit it for no good reason without really getting that message out to the fanbase. That deck should be available to anyone with JET, University Drive, and Rivers Street deck being overflow for highly attended games. An average of 3 people per car would mean 1,800 fans could take advantage of the new deck. That's a large portion of our typical crowd. We had no idea the JET lot was an option because the sign on Rivers Street said only pass holders could turn onto Hill Street.

I agree it should be a benefit included with season ticket holders, but everyone else should have the option to pay at the gate. Last I had heard, there was going to be a level or two reserved for season ticket holders and then the higher levels would be available to other on first come basis. What happened to that plan? I'd be happy to pay $5 or $10 to park there on a cold night even as a YC member since I don't have season tickets. It's kind of like the talk of having a Club Room in the NEZ that never materialized and then they suddenly got rid of it completely. We're being asked to give more every year but getting less. We just do a lot of things that make it difficult on fans and/or don't show appreciation for those that support the program.
Appreciate the response and I certainly understand the sentiment and your questions on the process are fair. As a season ticket holder, I can park anywhere on levels 3-6. I’m not sure how many levels there are but 6 seems about right. As to the unused spaces being used on a first come first serve basis, we need more information. For instance, how many of those spaces would be available for non pass holders on a per game basis? I don’t think that all 600 spaces are available for ticket holders, but let’s say 500 are and you sold 400 passes. That leaves you with 100 spaces for first come first serve. How do you manage that traffic flow to discern the cutoff to first come first serve while not clogging up the right of way for season ticket holders?

I’m sure that there is a solution to be found but it’s the first year with the deck so there could be some unknowns that needed to be vetted before landing on an ideal plan to maximize revenue. To me, they could do something like Marshall and Coastal have done for their parking and create a purchase option on Paciolan where there are digital passes that can be purchased for unaccounted for spaces.

I’d encourage anyone with ideas that benefit the masses and the school to convey them via email to MAF.
I'd be surprised if we had 400-500 passes given normal attendance, but lets go with it and say we have 150 spots available. That's going to be roughly 1.5 levels of the deck for non-season ticket holders. Give your cashiers 150 tickets to sell and have them inform single game buyers they have to go to floors five and six. Tell them if any car without a hang tag is found below those levels they'll be towed. Have traffic enforcement ready to put out a lot full sign on Hill Street once you're close to selling the 150 spaces. Redirect those in line to the JET lot across the street. If JET is also full, have them drive up Hill Street to ether turn around or park in that lot. Wave them through on the way back down just like one of residents that live up that street. It just takes a slight amount of coordination. They should be able to handle a few hundred cars if my company can park a few thousand cars for events on a regular basis.
I used that number for discussion purposes only. I don’t know how many they actually sold but I know that my tag requires me to park between 3-6. I’ve never gone higher than 4 so I don’t know how crowded 4-5-6 are. Perhaps they are doing a test run this year to gauge what they have going forward. That’s a question for someone in the MAF to answer. They may want to entice folks to buy the season pass. They may not have enough available inventory to justify the manpower needed aside from what they have.

As for the pay at the gate option, I’d prefer to have an online purchase before you arrive. From a purely selfish reason, if I’m rolling in from Davidson at 6:15 on a Thursday, I don’t want to be sitting in line waiting for someone to pay for a spot and then hold up traffic with a million questions.

I don’t have an issue with your proposed solution. Perhaps contact them and ask them how difficult it would be to implement.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by spacemonkey » Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:23 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:52 am
JTApps1 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:10 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:33 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:52 pm
Wally wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:16 pm
Could someone explain the parking for basketball? Last year we parked in Rivers Street Deck and it's fine but I wanted to see about maybe parking in the Holmes deck for the next home game. Thanks!
Yosef Club members can buy a pass for the new deck. The information is hard to find. I had no idea when I went up the the Troy game. Had to find out when trying to turn off f Rivers Street. The deck wasn't even half full while most fans had to walk with temps in the teens and strong winds. Not a fan friendly move.
What about it is not fan friendly?
We promoted this new 600 space deck as a way to make parking better for those attending basketball games. This has always been the number one issue with HCC. So now we have a solution, but we're going to limit it for no good reason without really getting that message out to the fanbase. That deck should be available to anyone with JET, University Drive, and Rivers Street deck being overflow for highly attended games. An average of 3 people per car would mean 1,800 fans could take advantage of the new deck. That's a large portion of our typical crowd. We had no idea the JET lot was an option because the sign on Rivers Street said only pass holders could turn onto Hill Street.

I agree it should be a benefit included with season ticket holders, but everyone else should have the option to pay at the gate. Last I had heard, there was going to be a level or two reserved for season ticket holders and then the higher levels would be available to other on first come basis. What happened to that plan? I'd be happy to pay $5 or $10 to park there on a cold night even as a YC member since I don't have season tickets. It's kind of like the talk of having a Club Room in the NEZ that never materialized and then they suddenly got rid of it completely. We're being asked to give more every year but getting less. We just do a lot of things that make it difficult on fans and/or don't show appreciation for those that support the program.
Appreciate the response and I certainly understand the sentiment and your questions on the process are fair. As a season ticket holder, I can park anywhere on levels 3-6. I’m not sure how many levels there are but 6 seems about right. As to the unused spaces being used on a first come first serve basis, we need more information. For instance, how many of those spaces would be available for non pass holders on a per game basis? I don’t think that all 600 spaces are available for ticket holders, but let’s say 500 are and you sold 400 passes. That leaves you with 100 spaces for first come first serve. How do you manage that traffic flow to discern the cutoff to first come first serve while not clogging up the right of way for season ticket holders?

I’m sure that there is a solution to be found but it’s the first year with the deck so there could be some unknowns that needed to be vetted before landing on an ideal plan to maximize revenue. To me, they could do something like Marshall and Coastal have done for their parking and create a purchase option on Paciolan where there are digital passes that can be purchased for unaccounted for spaces.

I’d encourage anyone with ideas that benefit the masses and the school to convey them via email to MAF.
Chick Fil A does a pretty robust fast business with a "Credit Card reader". I would think we could charge 10 bucks per car and make more money than trying to sell a 100 parking pass. Just my opinion. You still could have the 100 parking pass for the bottom floor. I am glad we built the deck it was needed for both basketball and football.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:15 am

If everything ran as efficiently as Chicfila this would be a utopian society.

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Re: Basketball Parking

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:50 am

Hopefully DOGE has hired them as an advisor.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:43 pm

Spillers is being paid more than our entire 24/25 roster. Maximize the deck revenue as best you can Doug.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by Bootsy » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:52 am

Stonewall wrote:
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Spillers is being paid more than our entire 24/25 roster. Maximize the deck revenue as best you can Doug.
This is another simple/easy way to increase revenue.
So, forgive me if I don’t have faith in Gillin to take advantage of it.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by spacemonkey » Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:29 am

As frustrating as it is for fans about higher pay for players for other colleges....think how frustrating it is for a good coach that cant beat another team even though he out coached them. It has to be tough to move up now in the coaching ranks. I feel what Kerns has done this year is short of a miracle.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:59 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:52 am
Stonewall wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:43 pm
Spillers is being paid more than our entire 24/25 roster. Maximize the deck revenue as best you can Doug.
This is another simple/easy way to increase revenue.
So, forgive me if I don’t have faith in Gillin to take advantage of it.
A one-time $15 parking fee in the Holmes Deck and a $10 convenience fee on single-game tickets (both of which we are currently doing) are smart ways to generate revenue. Kudos to Gillin and his staff.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by Bootsy » Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:50 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:59 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:52 am
Stonewall wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:43 pm
Spillers is being paid more than our entire 24/25 roster. Maximize the deck revenue as best you can Doug.
This is another simple/easy way to increase revenue.
So, forgive me if I don’t have faith in Gillin to take advantage of it.
A one-time $15 parking fee in the Holmes Deck and a $10 convenience fee on single-game tickets (both of which we are currently doing) are smart ways to generate revenue. Kudos to Gillin and his staff.
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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by spacemonkey » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:32 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:59 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:52 am
Stonewall wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:43 pm
Spillers is being paid more than our entire 24/25 roster. Maximize the deck revenue as best you can Doug.
This is another simple/easy way to increase revenue.
So, forgive me if I don’t have faith in Gillin to take advantage of it.
A one-time $15 parking fee in the Holmes Deck and a $10 convenience fee on single-game tickets (both of which we are currently doing) are smart ways to generate revenue. Kudos to Gillin and his staff.
Can you explain the "one-time 15 parking fee....??
I must have missed these options.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by IM4ASU » Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:57 pm

Don't guess I'll be attending any bb games. I'm 72 and small Yosef Club contributor. It would have to be a warm day for me to have to park and walk some distance to Holmes.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:32 pm

spacemonkey wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:32 pm
AppGrad78 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:59 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:52 am
Stonewall wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:43 pm
Spillers is being paid more than our entire 24/25 roster. Maximize the deck revenue as best you can Doug.
This is another simple/easy way to increase revenue.
So, forgive me if I don’t have faith in Gillin to take advantage of it.
A one-time $15 parking fee in the Holmes Deck and a $10 convenience fee on single-game tickets (both of which we are currently doing) are smart ways to generate revenue. Kudos to Gillin and his staff.
Can you explain the "one-time 15 parking fee....??
I must have missed these options.
For the JMU game, the sign at the Holmes Deck entrance said “season-ticket holders only.” But as we were about to drive to another parking deck, the attendant said we could also park at Holmes for the afternoon for $15. Would have been nice to communicate this better, but at least it was an option.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by JTApps1 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:33 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:32 pm
spacemonkey wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:32 pm
AppGrad78 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:59 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:52 am
Stonewall wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:43 pm
Spillers is being paid more than our entire 24/25 roster. Maximize the deck revenue as best you can Doug.
This is another simple/easy way to increase revenue.
So, forgive me if I don’t have faith in Gillin to take advantage of it.
A one-time $15 parking fee in the Holmes Deck and a $10 convenience fee on single-game tickets (both of which we are currently doing) are smart ways to generate revenue. Kudos to Gillin and his staff.
Can you explain the "one-time 15 parking fee....??
I must have missed these options.
For the JMU game, the sign at the Holmes Deck entrance said “season-ticket holders only.” But as we were about to drive to another parking deck, the attendant said we could also park at Holmes for the afternoon for $15. Would have been nice to communicate this better, but at least it was an option.
Exactly. I had no idea it was an option based off the signage.

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by spacemonkey » Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:02 am

1st game of the year I was told you had to be season ticket holder and Yosef member above a certain level. I argued a little because I am above the certain Yosef Level. They told me NO.

Can someone in the know tell me the options now???

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:29 pm

For Saturday’s double header.
IMG_2332.jpeg

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Re: Basketball Parking

Unread post by asu2000 » Fri Jan 31, 2025 7:14 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:29 pm
For Saturday’s double header. IMG_2332.jpeg
They were doing $15 to park at the mid week games this week for the deck. Saturdays weather looks to be decent, at least not frigid.

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