Capel: Struggle to get D-I teams to campus

[EastHallApp]

Fan support should be in full force regardless of record.

That is true in fantasy land, but in the real world.........

Yep. Sports are entertainment, and it turns out a lot of people don't find it that entertaining to watch their team lose over and over again.

But it's also a chicken-and-egg situation with scheduling. We may need bigger crowds to draw better opponents, but we need to get some better opponents in to draw bigger crowds.

[Kgfish]

I don't know this for sure - BUT, I doubt seriously Coach Capel makes the schedule ---

Other than football all coaches make their own schedules.

[wncapp78]

I note UNCA hosts Ohio U from the MAC this Saturday.

[JCline0429]

In Capel's defense, I can imagine that it's extremely difficult to get teams to come to Boone. The fact that there is no airport in town is a major factor and the closest one to us is in Tennessee and that's just a local airport. The closest international airport is 100 miles away in Charlotte. So once teams land, you're talking about a bus ride that's either down a mountain road/highway or one that's two hours up the interstate. Then you add the fact that it's Winter and snow is on the ground. Idk, I totally get why schools may not want to go through all of that to come play a non conference game.

However, you know what will fix that? Winning. If App can go on the road and upset a power conference team or make the dance, then maybe teams will find coming to Boone to play OOC games more valuable.

In spite of the reasons and excuses that Coach Capel has expounded upon, ultimately scheduling, or lack thereof, lies with Jay Sutton and Charlie Cobb.

[JCline0429]

Seeing there is no airport in town and the closest one to us is in Tennessee, makes one wonder how we're going to get those Sun Belt teams to Boone next year. What were they thinking?

Sun Belt teams have to come to Boone as they allowed us in their conference.

[AppinVA]

In Capel's defense, I can imagine that it's extremely difficult to get teams to come to Boone. The fact that there is no airport in town is a major factor and the closest one to us is in Tennessee and that's just a local airport. The closest international airport is 100 miles away in Charlotte. So once teams land, you're talking about a bus ride that's either down a mountain road/highway or one that's two hours up the interstate. Then you add the fact that it's Winter and snow is on the ground. Idk, I totally get why schools may not want to go through all of that to come play a non conference game.

However, you know what will fix that? Winning. If App can go on the road and upset a power conference team or make the dance, then maybe teams will find coming to Boone to play OOC games more valuable.

In spite of the reasons and excuses that Coach Capel has expounded upon, ultimately scheduling, or lack thereof, lies with Jay Sutton and Charlie Cobb.

Only with football. This, like a lot of other stuff, is on Incapelble.

[JCline0429]

In Capel's defense, I can imagine that it's extremely difficult to get teams to come to Boone. The fact that there is no airport in town is a major factor and the closest one to us is in Tennessee and that's just a local airport. The closest international airport is 100 miles away in Charlotte. So once teams land, you're talking about a bus ride that's either down a mountain road/highway or one that's two hours up the interstate. Then you add the fact that it's Winter and snow is on the ground. Idk, I totally get why schools may not want to go through all of that to come play a non conference game.

However, you know what will fix that? Winning. If App can go on the road and upset a power conference team or make the dance, then maybe teams will find coming to Boone to play OOC games more valuable.

In spite of the reasons and excuses that Coach Capel has expounded upon, ultimately scheduling, or lack thereof, lies with Jay Sutton and Charlie Cobb.

Only with football. This, like a lot of other stuff, is on Incapelble.

Are you saying that Charlie Cobb can not step in and influence the scheduling? I don't buy that. He got the credit over the last several years for the success of the football team, why shouldn't he at least get a small part of the blame for the lack of success of the basketball program? He fired Houston Fancher, hired Buzz Peterson, and then hired Jason Capel. Capel's Tar Heel credentials are wearing thin with me.

[AppinVA]

In Capel's defense, I can imagine that it's extremely difficult to get teams to come to Boone. The fact that there is no airport in town is a major factor and the closest one to us is in Tennessee and that's just a local airport. The closest international airport is 100 miles away in Charlotte. So once teams land, you're talking about a bus ride that's either down a mountain road/highway or one that's two hours up the interstate. Then you add the fact that it's Winter and snow is on the ground. Idk, I totally get why schools may not want to go through all of that to come play a non conference game.

However, you know what will fix that? Winning. If App can go on the road and upset a power conference team or make the dance, then maybe teams will find coming to Boone to play OOC games more valuable.

In spite of the reasons and excuses that Coach Capel has expounded upon, ultimately scheduling, or lack thereof, lies with Jay Sutton and Charlie Cobb.

Only with football. This, like a lot of other stuff, is on Incapelble.

Are you saying that Charlie Cobb can not step in and influence the scheduling? I don't buy that. He got the credit over the last several years for the success of the football team, why shouldn't he at least get a small part of the blame for the lack of success of the basketball program? He fired Houston Fancher, hired Buzz Peterson, and then hired Jason Capel.

You make a valid point (and you know as well as everyone else that I was/am a Fancher guy), but Cobb has nothing to do with Capel's scheduling. It falls squarely on Capel.

[WVAPPeer]

I don't know this for sure - BUT, I doubt seriously Coach Capel makes the schedule ---

Other than football all coaches make their own schedules.

You may be right but it is not common place - I have a close friend who is a head coach in basketball at a BCS school and has been a national coach of the year and he doesn't do his schedule - he certainly has a lot of input but the AD dept does the scheduling ---

[appst89]

In Capel's defense, I can imagine that it's extremely difficult to get teams to come to Boone. The fact that there is no airport in town is a major factor and the closest one to us is in Tennessee and that's just a local airport. The closest international airport is 100 miles away in Charlotte. So once teams land, you're talking about a bus ride that's either down a mountain road/highway or one that's two hours up the interstate. Then you add the fact that it's Winter and snow is on the ground. Idk, I totally get why schools may not want to go through all of that to come play a non conference game.

However, you know what will fix that? Winning. If App can go on the road and upset a power conference team or make the dance, then maybe teams will find coming to Boone to play OOC games more valuable.

In spite of the reasons and excuses that Coach Capel has expounded upon, ultimately scheduling, or lack thereof, lies with Jay Sutton and Charlie Cobb.

Nope. Basketball coaches are largely responsible for their schedules. Same for baseball.

[appst89]

In Capel's defense, I can imagine that it's extremely difficult to get teams to come to Boone. The fact that there is no airport in town is a major factor and the closest one to us is in Tennessee and that's just a local airport. The closest international airport is 100 miles away in Charlotte. So once teams land, you're talking about a bus ride that's either down a mountain road/highway or one that's two hours up the interstate. Then you add the fact that it's Winter and snow is on the ground. Idk, I totally get why schools may not want to go through all of that to come play a non conference game.

However, you know what will fix that? Winning. If App can go on the road and upset a power conference team or make the dance, then maybe teams will find coming to Boone to play OOC games more valuable.

In spite of the reasons and excuses that Coach Capel has expounded upon, ultimately scheduling, or lack thereof, lies with Jay Sutton and Charlie Cobb.

Only with football. This, like a lot of other stuff, is on Incapelble.

Are you saying that Charlie Cobb can not step in and influence the scheduling? I don't buy that. He got the credit over the last several years for the success of the football team, why shouldn't he at least get a small part of the blame for the lack of success of the basketball program? He fired Houston Fancher, hired Buzz Peterson, and then hired Jason Capel. Capel's Tar Heel credentials are wearing thin with me.

The Capel hire falls on Cobb. The lack of effort in promoting basketball falls on Cobb. Capel's schedule doesn't. Credit and blame are not mutually exclusive, they just need to be placed where they belong.

[AppinVA]

I don't know this for sure - BUT, I doubt seriously Coach Capel makes the schedule ---

Other than football all coaches make their own schedules.

You may be right but it is not common place - I have a close friend who is a head coach in basketball at a BCS school and has been a national coach of the year and he doesn't do his schedule - he certainly has a lot of input but the AD dept does the scheduling ---

Interesting. ESPN probably does much of his scheduling.

I covered a Division II to Division I school for 15 years, and there the coach did the scheduling. When I asked him a couple of years ago, he said, that's how it's done at most, if not all schools.

[appst89]

I don't know this for sure - BUT, I doubt seriously Coach Capel makes the schedule ---

Other than football all coaches make their own schedules.

You may be right but it is not common place - I have a close friend who is a head coach in basketball at a BCS school and has been a national coach of the year and he doesn't do his schedule - he certainly has a lot of input but the AD dept does the scheduling ---

High-profile coaches may not do it, but the vast majority of basketball coaches do their own.

[JCline0429]

In Capel's defense, I can imagine that it's extremely difficult to get teams to come to Boone. The fact that there is no airport in town is a major factor and the closest one to us is in Tennessee and that's just a local airport. The closest international airport is 100 miles away in Charlotte. So once teams land, you're talking about a bus ride that's either down a mountain road/highway or one that's two hours up the interstate. Then you add the fact that it's Winter and snow is on the ground. Idk, I totally get why schools may not want to go through all of that to come play a non conference game.

However, you know what will fix that? Winning. If App can go on the road and upset a power conference team or make the dance, then maybe teams will find coming to Boone to play OOC games more valuable.

In spite of the reasons and excuses that Coach Capel has expounded upon, ultimately scheduling, or lack thereof, lies with Jay Sutton and Charlie Cobb.

Only with football. This, like a lot of other stuff, is on Incapelble.

Are you saying that Charlie Cobb can not step in and influence the scheduling? I don't buy that. He got the credit over the last several years for the success of the football team, why shouldn't he at least get a small part of the blame for the lack of success of the basketball program? He fired Houston Fancher, hired Buzz Peterson, and then hired Jason Capel. Capel's Tar Heel credentials are wearing thin with me.

The Capel hire falls on Cobb. The lack of effort in promoting basketball falls on Cobb. Capel's schedule doesn't. Credit and blame are not mutually exclusive, they just need to be placed where they belong.

Again, Cobb fired Fancher, hired Buzz, and hired Capel. Where I come from, three strikes and you are out. I'm not saying Cobb should be ousted, but he needs to set the program right or leave the hiring of basketball coaches to someone else and not allowing the high rolling donors to do his job for him.

[appst89]

Again, Cobb fired Fancher, hired Buzz, and hired Capel.

Again, what part of, "The Capel hire falls on Cobb," wasn't clear?

[AppinVA]

If you can't win the argument, change the argument, eh Cline?

[JCline0429]

If you can't win the argument, change the argument, eh Cline?

I wasn't out to win an argument.

[Saint3333]

Capel has been given four years, that is enough to gauge whether he should be granted another contract. That is reality folks. Pro and college coaches are one of the few positions in which there is a black and white measure of success.

ADs are measured on those same metrics based upon the success of their hires. Cobb is batting above .500 for hires to date, but the next few years of football and basketball success will dictate his future with a new chancellor coming in.

This one has gone poorly, time to find a new coach this offseason.

[AppinVA]

If you can't win the argument, change the argument, eh Cline?

I wasn't out to win an argument.

I know. Just out to stir the pot.

[Cincy App]

One aspect of scheduling which is not controlled by the coach is its budget. Hosting a big school requires ASU to offer a guaranteed fee which our administration has been reluctant to do for many years due to horrendous home attendance. It's unlikely for us to get a home and home arrangement right now with anyone better than the Big South or OVC. A typical home and home arrangement allows each team to keep its home gate. A one-game arrangement requires the home team to pay a guaranteed fee to the visiting team. Hence, ASU profits from its road games against Georgia, NC State, etc. Basketball is a revenue sport at most schools. On the other hand, baseball revenues are much smaller at most schools so we are able to occasionally get bigger schools to come to Boone especially for mid-week games. Of course, even with the above parameters, our current home basketball schedule with 4 non-D1 schools is quite disappointing. I'm glad that the Sunbelt will only allow one such game.