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Re: The ASU coaching search and potential candidates to disc

Unread post by EastHallApp » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:52 am

Figure I'll keep adding these as new candidates emerge...

Jamal Brunt
Richmond Assoc. HC

Previously: Assistant at Randolph-Macon
Age: 33
Career record: n/a
http://www.richmondspiders.com/ViewArti ... EASON=2013

Pros:
- Despite his youth, has 9 years of coaching experience, including 7 at Richmond.
- Credited with much of UR's recruiting success.
- A young, African-American coach from an urban background (he's a Baltimore native) could be a good salesman to bring recruits from similar backgrounds to Boone/ASU.
- Part of a staff that rebuilt a struggling Richmond program over several years, culminating in 2011 Sweet 16 appearance.
- Handled scheduling for Richmond, showing a savvy understanding of the RPI.
- Credited with "mentoring" players in academics, "helping the men’s basketball team achieve its highest GPA on record" (according to official bio linked above).

Cons:
- No HC experience.
- Richmond program has slipped in recent years - in each of the last three seasons, they've missed the NCAAT, fallen short of 20 wins, and been .500 or worse in A-10 play.
- Not much name recognition.
- Given his current career stage and lack of ties to Boone or NC, he might be more eager to move to a bigger job than some other candidates.
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Re: The ASU coaching search and potential candidates to disc

Unread post by ASUPATCH » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:56 am

EastHallApp wrote:Figure I'll keep adding these as new candidates emerge...

Jamal Brunt
Richmond Assoc. HC

Previously: Assistant at Randolph-Macon
Age: 33
Career record: n/a
http://www.richmondspiders.com/ViewArti ... EASON=2013

Pros:
- Despite his youth, has 11 years of coaching experience, including 9 at Richmond.
- Credited with much of UR's recruiting success.
- A young, African-American coach from an urban background (he's a Baltimore native) could be a good salesman to bring recruits from similar backgrounds to Boone/ASU.
- Part of a staff that rebuilt a struggling Richmond program over several years, culminating in 2011 Sweet 16 appearance.
- Handled scheduling for Richmond, showing a savvy understanding of the RPI.
- Credited with "mentoring" players in academics, "helping the men’s basketball team achieve its highest GPA on record" (according to official bio linked above).

Cons:
- No HC experience.
- Richmond program has slipped in recent years - in each of the last three seasons, they've missed the NCAAT, fallen short of 20 wins, and been .500 or worse in A-10 play.
- Not much name recognition.
- Given his current career stage and lack of ties to Boone or NC, he might be more eager to move to a bigger job than some other candidates.

He also won the Heisman Trophy.......please tell be someone else sees it.
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Unread post by Maddog1956 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:08 am

In general I don't worry about a coach in basketball having a couple bad years (current or past). Basketball is such a game of getting one or two great players. All great coaches have down years where players didn't turn out as good as they should have or someone gets injured.

I like things like overall records, shooting % (especially FS), Graduation %, respect (subjective), etc. Coaching is getting better than average from an average team, year after year. Then when you get one of the better than expected players, everything is in place. Look at a Davidson, year in, year out a good team and add a little Curry and everything is spiced up.
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Unread post by hapapp » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:15 am

Another name surfacing at Appfan is Davidson assistant Jim Fox.

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Unread post by goapps93 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:16 am

Maddog1956 wrote:In general I don't worry about a coach in basketball having a couple bad years (current or past). Basketball is such a game of getting one or two great players. All great coaches have down years where players didn't turn out as good as they should have or someone gets injured.

I like things like overall records, shooting % (especially FS), Graduation %, respect (subjective), etc. Coaching is getting better than average from an average team, year after year. Then when you get one of the better than expected players, everything is in place. Look at a Davidson, year in, year out a good team and add a little Curry and everything is spiced up.
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Unread post by bcoach » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:02 pm

Maddog1956 wrote:In general I don't worry about a coach in basketball having a couple bad years (current or past). Basketball is such a game of getting one or two great players. All great coaches have down years where players didn't turn out as good as they should have or someone gets injured.

I like things like overall records, shooting % (especially FS), Graduation %, respect (subjective), etc. Coaching is getting better than average from an average team, year after year. Then when you get one of the better than expected players, everything is in place. Look at a Davidson, year in, year out a good team and add a little Curry and everything is spiced up.
That is exactly the description of a coach that would do us well. Davidson is exactly the kind of program we should strive for.

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Unread post by Maddog1956 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:16 pm

bcoach wrote:
Maddog1956 wrote:In general I don't worry about a coach in basketball having a couple bad years (current or past). Basketball is such a game of getting one or two great players. All great coaches have down years where players didn't turn out as good as they should have or someone gets injured.

I like things like overall records, shooting % (especially FS), Graduation %, respect (subjective), etc. Coaching is getting better than average from an average team, year after year. Then when you get one of the better than expected players, everything is in place. Look at a Davidson, year in, year out a good team and add a little Curry and everything is spiced up.
That is exactly the description of a coach that would do us well. Davidson is exactly the kind of program we should strive for.
I was going to throw out Davidson names before but I just don't think there is a coach that's going to be leaving, unless the son wants to break out from under his dad. Mckillop (HC) has 25 years there, Fox has 13 and surely thinks he getting Mckillop's job in a few years. Son Mckillop would he leave his dad? Then there is Mee who's a baby. Otherwise that would have been my first choice.
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Unread post by asu66 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:26 pm

There must be some activity between our athletic department, Davidson's Jim Fox and Murray State's Matt McMahon. I've never followed AppFan much, because it's always such a cat fight. But in the last two days, one guy over there seems to have some inside info on Fox and McMahon. It got me to wondering. I checked out Twitter and learned that Fox is following McMahon; and vice-versa. This is recent Twitter activity, btw.

It may be very innocent since McMahon's team is playing for the CIT title at 6 PM, but it all seems to me to be a sign of something. I guess we'll find out--when we find out! :|
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Unread post by ASUPATCH » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:24 pm

In case you guys haven't seen it there is a Hire Matt McMahon facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/App-Stat ... 7535843390
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Unread post by asutrnr81 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:25 pm

asu66 wrote:There must be some activity between our athletic department, Davidson's Jim Fox and Murray State's Matt McMahon. I've never followed AppFan much, because it's always such a cat fight. But in the last two days, one guy over there seems to have some inside info on Fox and McMahon. It got me to wondering. I checked out Twitter and learned that Fox is following McMahon; and vice-versa. This is recent Twitter activity, btw.

It may be very innocent since McMahon's team is playing for the CIT title at 6 PM, but it all seems to me to be a sign of something. I guess we'll find out--when we find out! :|
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Unread post by asu66 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:17 pm

asutrnr81 wrote:
asu66 wrote:There must be some activity between our athletic department, Davidson's Jim Fox and Murray State's Matt McMahon. I've never followed AppFan much, because it's always such a cat fight. But in the last two days, one guy over there seems to have some inside info on Fox and McMahon. It got me to wondering. I checked out Twitter and learned that Fox is following McMahon; and vice-versa. This is recent Twitter activity, btw.

It may be very innocent since McMahon's team is playing for the CIT title at 6 PM, but it all seems to me to be a sign of something. I guess we'll find out--when we find out! :|
Kachmarik has been in the twitter world mix with Matt lately too!
Yeah, I've noticed that and I'm not certain it's a good thing. :?:
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Unread post by Maddog1956 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:41 pm

asu66 wrote:There must be some activity between our athletic department, Davidson's Jim Fox and Murray State's Matt McMahon. I've never followed AppFan much, because it's always such a cat fight. But in the last two days, one guy over there seems to have some inside info on Fox and McMahon. It got me to wondering. I checked out Twitter and learned that Fox is following McMahon; and vice-versa. This is recent Twitter activity, btw.

It may be very innocent since McMahon's team is playing for the CIT title at 6 PM, but it all seems to me to be a sign of something. I guess we'll find out--when we find out! :|
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Unread post by IGgreer » Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:37 pm

asu66 wrote:
asutrnr81 wrote:
asu66 wrote:There must be some activity between our athletic department, Davidson's Jim Fox and Murray State's Matt McMahon. I've never followed AppFan much, because it's always such a cat fight. But in the last two days, one guy over there seems to have some inside info on Fox and McMahon. It got me to wondering. I checked out Twitter and learned that Fox is following McMahon; and vice-versa. This is recent Twitter activity, btw.

It may be very innocent since McMahon's team is playing for the CIT title at 6 PM, but it all seems to me to be a sign of something. I guess we'll find out--when we find out! :|
Kachmarik has been in the twitter world mix with Matt lately too!
Yeah, I've noticed that and I'm not certain it's a good thing. :?:
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IGgreer wrote:
asu66 wrote:
asutrnr81 wrote:
asu66 wrote:There must be some activity between our athletic department, Davidson's Jim Fox and Murray State's Matt McMahon. I've never followed AppFan much, because it's always such a cat fight. But in the last two days, one guy over there seems to have some inside info on Fox and McMahon. It got me to wondering. I checked out Twitter and learned that Fox is following McMahon; and vice-versa. This is recent Twitter activity, btw.

It may be very innocent since McMahon's team is playing for the CIT title at 6 PM, but it all seems to me to be a sign of something. I guess we'll find out--when we find out! :|
Kachmarik has been in the twitter world mix with Matt lately too!
Yeah, I've noticed that and I'm not certain it's a good thing. :?:
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Unread post by appgrouch » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:20 pm

asu66 wrote:
asutrnr81 wrote:
asu66 wrote:There must be some activity between our athletic department, Davidson's Jim Fox and Murray State's Matt McMahon. I've never followed AppFan much, because it's always such a cat fight. But in the last two days, one guy over there seems to have some inside info on Fox and McMahon. It got me to wondering. I checked out Twitter and learned that Fox is following McMahon; and vice-versa. This is recent Twitter activity, btw.

It may be very innocent since McMahon's team is playing for the CIT title at 6 PM, but it all seems to me to be a sign of something. I guess we'll find out--when we find out! :|
Kachmarik has been in the twitter world mix with Matt lately too!
Yeah, I've noticed that and I'm not certain it's a good thing. :?:
He is on the CIT selection committee
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Unread post by JCline0429 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:32 am

asu66 wrote:
AppAttack wrote:Mike Young, Pat Kelsey, Matt McMahon or best D2 coach you can get. I'm excited about finding a new coach and moving to a different conference. We have a great university, a great football program and a great basketball facility. There's no reason we can't be competitive with the right hire.
Whoever we eventually sign has his work cut out for him. With the impending NCAA APR "penalty" hanging over the team's head, the poor shooters we have, our lack of a take-charge point guard and the lack of any imposing big men, we're in for a rude awakening. We're moving from a guard-oriented league to more of an inside power league. That, in itself, spells trouble.

LA-Lafayette has a returning center, Shawn Long, who at 6-9, 245 is a man's man. No boy about him. Last night he got his 33rd double-double as a collegian...scoring 19 points and pulling down 17 boards. Throw in a half-dozen blocks and a few steals...and he's a load. One of the best players I've seen all season--anywhere. We have no answer for guys like that; and most (not all) Sunbelt teams have some bookends about like him. We're going to be playing catch-up ball for a few seasons.

Chuck, do you know for sure that we are going to get the penalty or do you think it's possible we could find a loophole? I have my fingers crossed.
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Unread post by bcoach » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:31 am

Former All-American forward Danny Manning will be the next men's basketball coach at Wake Forest University, according to a report by ESPN.

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Unread post by appst89 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:04 am

JCline0429 wrote:
asu66 wrote:
AppAttack wrote:Mike Young, Pat Kelsey, Matt McMahon or best D2 coach you can get. I'm excited about finding a new coach and moving to a different conference. We have a great university, a great football program and a great basketball facility. There's no reason we can't be competitive with the right hire.
Whoever we eventually sign has his work cut out for him. With the impending NCAA APR "penalty" hanging over the team's head, the poor shooters we have, our lack of a take-charge point guard and the lack of any imposing big men, we're in for a rude awakening. We're moving from a guard-oriented league to more of an inside power league. That, in itself, spells trouble.

LA-Lafayette has a returning center, Shawn Long, who at 6-9, 245 is a man's man. No boy about him. Last night he got his 33rd double-double as a collegian...scoring 19 points and pulling down 17 boards. Throw in a half-dozen blocks and a few steals...and he's a load. One of the best players I've seen all season--anywhere. We have no answer for guys like that; and most (not all) Sunbelt teams have some bookends about like him. We're going to be playing catch-up ball for a few seasons.

Chuck, do you know for sure that we are going to get the penalty or do you think it's possible we could find a loophole? I have my fingers crossed.

I believe T-Dog did the math in a post a while back. If I remember correctly, it is mathematically impossible for us to get to the number we need next year. The APR is a four year rolling average and the last of Fancher's good years is rolling off.

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Unread post by asu24 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:47 am

I'm beginning to think we're no longer looking for "the right person" for the job. We're looking for someone willing to take the job. :oops:

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Unread post by asu66 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:21 am

appst89 wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
asu66 wrote:
AppAttack wrote:Mike Young, Pat Kelsey, Matt McMahon or best D2 coach you can get. I'm excited about finding a new coach and moving to a different conference. We have a great university, a great football program and a great basketball facility. There's no reason we can't be competitive with the right hire.
Whoever we eventually sign has his work cut out for him. With the impending NCAA APR "penalty" hanging over the team's head, the poor shooters we have, our lack of a take-charge point guard and the lack of any imposing big men, we're in for a rude awakening. We're moving from a guard-oriented league to more of an inside power league. That, in itself, spells trouble.

LA-Lafayette has a returning center, Shawn Long, who at 6-9, 245 is a man's man. No boy about him. Last night he got his 33rd double-double as a collegian...scoring 19 points and pulling down 17 boards. Throw in a half-dozen blocks and a few steals...and he's a load. One of the best players I've seen all season--anywhere. We have no answer for guys like that; and most (not all) Sunbelt teams have some bookends about like him. We're going to be playing catch-up ball for a few seasons.

Chuck, do you know for sure that we are going to get the penalty or do you think it's possible we could find a loophole? I have my fingers crossed.

I believe T-Dog did the math in a post a while back. If I remember correctly, it is mathematically impossible for us to get to the number we need next year. The APR is a four year rolling average and the last of Fancher's good years is rolling off.
T-Dog's numbers looked borderline; but just below the cut-off. I doubt there's any avenue of appeal that would be successful. We'll get a post-season penalty for certain. Whether we lose a scholarship; and for how long is where we're at risk.

In the Sunbelt, we aren't likely to be in the mix for the basketball tourney anyway until we recruit some better players. Not every team gets to play in the Sunbelt Tourney. We don't presently have the athletes to make it.

The problem in ASU recruiting is that we'll have to tell recruits that they'll be playing on a team with no post-season options. That'll turn a lot of kids off.

That's exactly what happened to Buzz at Wilmington. He walked into severe APR problems and couldn't recruit the quality of player needed to win in the CAA. He couldn't turn it around in four years; and the new AD and new chancellor decided to get someone else to finish the job.

That could happen to our next coach very easily!
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