Pearl's annual salary was over $2 million when he left UT. He may be tainted, but get the big checkbook out because he will stay on TV until the right job comes along.T-Dog wrote:Pearl's NCAA show-cause ends in August 2014. It just means that he can't recruit if he's hired by someone. Also, it can be appealed by a school hiring him to be shortened.
Of course you have to look at what he did to get the show-cause. He lied about hosting a recruit at a backyard barbecue. Not exactly an act worthy of tar and feathers.
To me, he should be #1 on the list. He lives in Knoxville and wouldn't have to move far. He is a proven winner and great promoter. Fill the contract with incentives and let him do work.
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Agreed. I would absolutely love to have Bruce Pearl, but unless he's willing to take a huge pay cut, and we pony up some serious cash, I don't see it happening. Lutz would be a great hire though.Nugget49 wrote:
Pearl's annual salary was over $2 million when he left UT. He may be tainted, but get the big checkbook out because he will stay on TV until the right job comes along.
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The guy lied to his university president and to NCAA investigators about the invitation list to a back yard BBQ; so what else would he and did he lie about. You would never be able to completely trust him. There would be doubt about every hair-splitting/word-parsing situation that came along. I have no doubt that Pearl will eventually get someone to pay him a seven-figure salary to coach again; and then it would soon be business as usual again. No way, Jose, that an ASU Board of Trustees would ever approve his employment.Nugget49 wrote:Pearl's annual salary was over $2 million when he left UT. He may be tainted, but get the big checkbook out because he will stay on TV until the right job comes along.T-Dog wrote:Pearl's NCAA show-cause ends in August 2014. It just means that he can't recruit if he's hired by someone. Also, it can be appealed by a school hiring him to be shortened.
Of course you have to look at what he did to get the show-cause. He lied about hosting a recruit at a backyard barbecue. Not exactly an act worthy of tar and feathers.
To me, he should be #1 on the list. He lives in Knoxville and wouldn't have to move far. He is a proven winner and great promoter. Fill the contract with incentives and let him do work.
And in the unlikely event our Trustees did cave; he'd be around for only one season--just long enough to rid himself of the NCAA shackles and he'd be gone to the highest bidder. Sure, Dayton Cole and the ASU legal brain-trust would have his contract laced with early departure penalties--but he'd be smart enough to take a job where someone else would be bankrolling his early departure "fees."
His best re-entry into organized basketball will be with the pros.
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McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:A few posts up someone said you would have a word or two to say when that name was mentioned. That were not kidding.![]()

Honestly, if it meant Mike would stay away, I would extend Capel's contract.



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Wish list: (no particular order)
MichSt Assoc. Head Coach Dwayne Stephens
Syracuse: Asst Coach Mike Hopkins
Marquette: Dir. of Bball Ops Jason Rabedeaux
GaTech: Asst. Coach Josh Postorino
NCSU: Assoc. Head Coach Bobby Lutz
Murray St: Asst. Coach Matt McMahon
MichSt Assoc. Head Coach Dwayne Stephens
Syracuse: Asst Coach Mike Hopkins
Marquette: Dir. of Bball Ops Jason Rabedeaux
GaTech: Asst. Coach Josh Postorino
NCSU: Assoc. Head Coach Bobby Lutz
Murray St: Asst. Coach Matt McMahon
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Steele came to town in very early March '72--still in the dead of winter in The High Country. Acting ASU AD Roy Clogston (of NC State fame...then living in semi-retirement at Hound Ears Resort) arranged for Steele to use a spartanly furnished "flat" in the old Faculty Apartments building adjacent to old North Hall (the women's dorm that was scheduled to be razed that spring). Steele stayed there for just under three weeks apparently spending most of his time pacing the floor and trying to convince his wife. Kitty, to join him. She came up to visit overnight in the middle of the third week, saw where and how he'd been living and gave him an ultimatum--pack and go with her back to Guilford County or get a divorce lawyer. They left together that same afternoon. He wasn't on campus long enough for his new contract to be completed and approved by the BOT.JCline0429 wrote:You say you go all the way back to Jerry Steele. How long did he stay before he went back to High Point...two weeks?
As we all know, Clogston's next call went to his ol' NC State buddy, Press Maravich, who had been fired by LSU. It wasn't meant to be. Clogston was gone two full years before Maravich resigned. Jim Jones took over all athletics--not just the business side that he had been managing for years.
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That was my junior year at ASU and I remember the back and forth about who would coach the Apps. I recall the initial reaction to Press being named. Many of us were intrigued with his selection. Of course, over the next several years we became a recruiting mecca for the nation's Serbian hoopsters... Vukovich...Milosovich...Nedanovich (sp?). Of course, Stan Davis was still around and he provided one of the few reasons to go App bball games in those days. Not sure how he found his way to Boone from Pittsburgh but he could put on a show.
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This is making my head hurt...with this talk of MW returning...and Capel staying. All I can envision is Working playing the role of bull in a "bull in the ring drill" in pre-game warm-ups and staggering back to Owens fieldhouse when it's time for the kickoff bleeding from a thousand scratches and cuts delivered gleefully by his players. Oh, and all those stories about the very married MW making drunken passes at ASU cheerleaders and driving on campus under the influence...and being stopped on campus and around town in such a state by the ASU police and NC Highway Patrol And visions of Capel in a half-time shouting match with Anthony Breeze and Anthony Thomas in the tunnels behind HCC's BB court. And Capel's voice in the night repeating over and over that "we're gonna get back to work and just get better." Please make this go away!asutrnr81 wrote:McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:A few posts up someone said you would have a word or two to say when that name was mentioned. That were not kidding.![]()
Mike was just plain bad in every regard possible that I can recall. There was just a lot of water under the bridge with him and how he treated people. Now he was one heck of an offensive mind....probably well beyond his years....as evidenced by his tenure in the NFL. Honestly, following the class that Jim Brakefield brought to the field would have been hard to follow by anyone...(similar to following JM), but Mike just beat people down and blamed everything on everybody else.
Honestly, if it meant Mike would stay away, I would extend Capel's contract.![]()
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This is making my head hurt...with this talk of MW returning...and Capel staying. All I can envision is Working playing the role of bull in a "bull in the ring drill" in pre-game warm-ups and staggering back to Owens fieldhouse when it's time for the kickoff bleeding from a thousand scratches and cuts delivered gleefully by his players. Oh, and all those stories about the very married MW making drunken passes at ASU cheerleaders and driving on campus under the influence...and being stopped on campus and around town in such a state by the ASU police and NC Highway Patrol. And visions of Capel in a half-time shouting match with Anthony Breeze and Anthony Thomas in the tunnels behind HCC's BB court. And Capel's voice in the night repeating over and over that "we're gonna get back to work and just get better." Please make this go away!asutrnr81 wrote:McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:A few posts up someone said you would have a word or two to say when that name was mentioned. That were not kidding.![]()
Mike was just plain bad in every regard possible that I can recall. There was just a lot of water under the bridge with him and how he treated people. Now he was one heck of an offensive mind....probably well beyond his years....as evidenced by his tenure in the NFL. Honestly, following the class that Jim Brakefield brought to the field would have been hard to follow by anyone...(similar to following JM), but Mike just beat people down and blamed everything on everybody else.
Honestly, if it meant Mike would stay away, I would extend Capel's contract.![]()
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appdaze wrote:http://texassports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=597&path=mbball
I'd like to see this guy get an offer. Bryan Lentz.
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This is probably unrealistic, but I'd really like to steal NC Central's coach. That guy has navigated a tough transition with great success. Maybe they pay low enough that we can offer a major raise?
I do feel bad speculating about replacements this early. This speculation could harm recruiting and undermine the coaches inside their own locker room. At the same time recruits and players aren't stupid, they know this is the last year of Capel's contract and they know we haven't won a lot of games recently. This might be such a foregone conclusion that there is nothing left to undermine.
I do feel bad speculating about replacements this early. This speculation could harm recruiting and undermine the coaches inside their own locker room. At the same time recruits and players aren't stupid, they know this is the last year of Capel's contract and they know we haven't won a lot of games recently. This might be such a foregone conclusion that there is nothing left to undermine.
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Now that is funny....and as far as I am concerned no more MW talk out of me!...asu66 wrote:This is making my head hurt...with this talk of MW returning...and Capel staying. All I can envision is Working playing the role of bull in a "bull in the ring drill" in pre-game warm-ups and staggering back to Owens fieldhouse when it's time for the kickoff bleeding from a thousand scratches and cuts delivered gleefully by his players. Oh, and all those stories about the very married MW making drunken passes at ASU cheerleaders and driving on campus under the influence...and being stopped on campus and around town in such a state by the ASU police and NC Highway Patrol And visions of Capel in a half-time shouting match with Anthony Breeze and Anthony Thomas in the tunnels behind HCC's BB court. And Capel's voice in the night repeating over and over that "we're gonna get back to work and just get better." Please make this go away!
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wataugan03 wrote:This is probably unrealistic, but I'd really like to steal NC Central's coach. That guy has navigated a tough transition with great success. Maybe they pay low enough that we can offer a major raise?
I do feel bad speculating about replacements this early. This speculation could harm recruiting and undermine the coaches inside their own locker room. At the same time recruits and players aren't stupid, they know this is the last year of Capel's contract and they know we haven't won a lot of games recently. This might be such a foregone conclusion that there is nothing left to undermine.

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AppHoops wrote:appdaze wrote:http://texassports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=597&path=mbball
I'd like to see this guy get an offer. Bryan Lentz.
Good find
He has all kinds of roots in NC and has already done familiar with NC recruiting. He is young and has worked for successful teams. He has been coaching since he graduated from college. I really think we could get this guy if they went for him.
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hapapp wrote:That was my junior year at ASU and I remember the back and forth about who would coach the Apps. I recall the initial reaction to Press being named. Many of us were intrigued with his selection. Of course, over the next several years we became a recruiting mecca for the nation's Serbian hoopsters... Vukovich...Milosovich...Nedanovich (sp?). Of course, Stan Davis was still around and he provided one of the few reasons to go App bball games in those days. Not sure how he found his way to Boone from Pittsburgh but he could put on a show.
I believe it was Vukosovich you were referring to.
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Not all the players hated Mile Working. Johnny Sowell at Monroe who played for Working has told me that he liked Coach Working.asu66 wrote:This is making my head hurt...with this talk of MW returning...and Capel staying. All I can envision is Working playing the role of bull in a "bull in the ring drill" in pre-game warm-ups and staggering back to Owens fieldhouse when it's time for the kickoff bleeding from a thousand scratches and cuts delivered gleefully by his players. Oh, and all those stories about the very married MW making drunken passes at ASU cheerleaders and driving on campus under the influence...and being stopped on campus and around town in such a state by the ASU police and NC Highway Patrol. And visions of Capel in a half-time shouting match with Anthony Breeze and Anthony Thomas in the tunnels behind HCC's BB court. And Capel's voice in the night repeating over and over that "we're gonna get back to work and just get better." Please make this go away!asutrnr81 wrote:McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:A few posts up someone said you would have a word or two to say when that name was mentioned. That were not kidding.![]()
Mike was just plain bad in every regard possible that I can recall. There was just a lot of water under the bridge with him and how he treated people. Now he was one heck of an offensive mind....probably well beyond his years....as evidenced by his tenure in the NFL. Honestly, following the class that Jim Brakefield brought to the field would have been hard to follow by anyone...(similar to following JM), but Mike just beat people down and blamed everything on everybody else.
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Gonzo wrote:I remember Lutz being mentioned before the Capel hire. Makes perfect sense. The guy has experience in the mid majors and recruiting in our area. I wonder if we can afford him? I would certainly hope Cobb is willing to fork over enough dough after his gamble with Capel turned into the biggest failure imaginable.
Lutz is on the staff we have accused of tampering with Devonte Graham. He is also making over $300K per year. Ain't gonna happen.
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He might be a future hall of famer for all I know, but I don't see App replacing Capel with a guy who has never even been a D-1 assistant coach or a HC at any level.appdaze wrote:AppHoops wrote:appdaze wrote:http://texassports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=597&path=mbball
I'd like to see this guy get an offer. Bryan Lentz.
Good find
He has all kinds of roots in NC and has already done familiar with NC recruiting. He is young and has worked for successful teams. He has been coaching since he graduated from college. I really think we could get this guy if they went for him.
Plus, not that it's his fault, but Texas basketball has fallen apart since he joined the staff.
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Just saw where App slayer Campbell lost to Chowan in OT.
Also Mars Hill beat Furman. At least we have defeated the two DII teams we have played thus far.
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I have been on the Bruce Pearl bandwagon before it had wheels. I may have built the thing. I don't know, it's been so long. Others can back me up. Will it cost a ton to pay him? Yeah probably. But we can't keep paying experiments 250K and expect anyone to take us serious if we don't look serious about the sport.
Someone earlier referenced ticket sales and how much we "make" off of them. I wonder if we currently have 500 paying fans. Would really like to see an actual breakdown of App Students, season ticket holders who pay well under $10 per game, and the random $10 sales at the door. A lot of tickets are comped due to sponsors in that as well. I think we would be surprised.
Lastly, short of winning every game for the rest of the season, Capel isn't our coach next year. We know it, he knows it, and the worst part, is that every team in the Sun Belt knows it too. I see nothing wrong with this conversation whatsoever.
Someone earlier referenced ticket sales and how much we "make" off of them. I wonder if we currently have 500 paying fans. Would really like to see an actual breakdown of App Students, season ticket holders who pay well under $10 per game, and the random $10 sales at the door. A lot of tickets are comped due to sponsors in that as well. I think we would be surprised.
Lastly, short of winning every game for the rest of the season, Capel isn't our coach next year. We know it, he knows it, and the worst part, is that every team in the Sun Belt knows it too. I see nothing wrong with this conversation whatsoever.