Devonte Graham

[CVAPP]

I fully support Coach Capel in not awarding Devonte Graham his release last spring. However, I do see no point in still making this young man suffer. He has lost a year and was forced to attend a prep school in New Hampshire (rather than attend a four year college). Since he has not been released, he's unable to have any communication with other programs.

At this point, Coach Capel is the child. He denied the release (which I fully support). However, since both parties have now moved on (reported that App St has a point guard commit) he appears to be the immature party.

Give him his release so he may communicate with other schools. I would BLOCK any school, which you believe tampered with Graham (reportedly NC State). Do not release him to NC State, as well as any other Southern Conference School. By not releasing him period, you are only hurting your own future recruiting in the state of North Carolina and this region (since this has now reached a national level).

Interesting first and only post here. Let's clarify some things. This young man was not "forced" to play for a prep school in NH. He chose to do so. Capel is not acting like a child nor is he hurting our future recruiting interests. What would hurt our future recruiting interests is your proposal. Your proposal sends the message lowd and clear that you can use APP as a safety net in case you can't get a better offer. What school is it that you support?

[Maddog1956]

Let's keep this in perspective, the worst thing that's going to happen to this kid if he keeps his word is he's going to have his way paid to a great school. period!

How many would be crying if he signed up for the Army to feed his family and just before they sent him to Iraq he found another job making more money and he wanted out? This is the choice that kids have to make all the time.

Devonte, should quit is crying, honor his word and be a man. Either play or not play and let's move on.

Tend to agree. I was raised to honor my commitments, but I just don't feel right about us holding out here either. What does either party gain at this point?

The only thing we have to gain is to lessen the chance that someone else signs as a "safety school' until something else comes along. I don't think there is anything else.

But to me what's the downside? Some great player doesn't sign with us because they know we won't let him out of the contract. I just don't see it, but I may be wrong? Why is the ability to get out of a contact that important if you really want to go. That our name will stink? I did a search on "wants out of his NLI". This happens all the time and know one knows or cares. Plus while it started as a social media campaign to get him out of his contact, it looks like the sentiment is turning our way. Heck, I'd even go to a BB game to see the kid play or to applauded Capel for sticking to his guns.

[appbio91]

No way in hell I would release him. I realize he will never dribble a ball for us at this point and I really don't care honestly but this is about the integrity of the system. I am sure Capel has the support of the AD in this matter. This is bigger than a head coach. I totally agree that one kid will not save Capel's job. If he was that good he would have been snatched up way before his senior year. I know some people slip through but not saviors as some claim Capel believes this guy is.

[app123]

I wonder if Mr. Capel remembers these words


"Players should have a voice, Capel said. Players should be allowed to have a say in the things that will determine our future."

Courtesy of....
Problems in college sports put spotlight on NCAA
Investigations, scholarship limitations have some questioning worthiness of organization
by Zach Kancher Issue: April 24, 2000

[TheMoody1]

I wonder if Mr. Capel remembers these words


"Players should have a voice, Capel said. Players should be allowed to have a say in the things that will determine our future."

Are you related to this kid or something?

I wonder if Mr. Graham remembers reading and signing his NLI.

[CVAPP]

I wonder if Mr. Capel remembers these words


"Players should have a voice, Capel said. Players should be allowed to have a say in the things that will determine our future."

Courtesy of....
Problems in college sports put spotlight on NCAA
Investigations, scholarship limitations have some questioning worthiness of organization
by Zach Kancher Issue: April 24, 2000

Devonte exercised his voice by signing a binding contract (NLI). I guess there is some exemption for these kids that are not 18 years old yet, but nonetheless, a legal and binding contract. Further, he is in control and able to determine his future as a member of a prep school team.

I don't understand why anyone who supports APP does not support our leadership in this matter. These free Devonte APP fans are probably the same "APP fans" that wear their favorite ACC team apparel.

[TheMoody1]

I don't understand why anyone who supports APP does not support our leadership in this matter. These free Devonte APP fans are probably the same "APP fans" that wear their favorite ACC team apparel.

It is only one poster that continually dredges up this thread.

[app123]

I just believe in being fair and by the way I started the thread, So I will say what I want.

Just because you support something doesn't mean you agree with everything that is done. I'm sure Gainey supports NCSU, But does that mean he shouldn't be angry if the alleged rumors are true

[appgrouch]

I just believe in being fair and by the way I started the thread, So I will say what I want.

Just because you support something doesn't mean you agree with everything that is done. I'm sure Gainey supports NCSU, But does that mean he shouldn't be angry if the alleged rumors are true

I'm sure that Gainey supports App, since it is the team that he coaches.

As far as starting this thread, there was already at least 2 threads following the on going drama, so this thread is just redundant.

[appst89]

I just believe in being fair

To whom?

[asu66]

I don't understand why anyone who supports APP does not support our leadership in this matter. These free Devonte APP fans are probably the same "APP fans" that wear their favorite ACC team apparel.

It is only one poster that continually dredges up this thread.

You are correct, sir. In fact, this topic seems to have been his only interest in joining our forum in mid-September. All of his posts (still under 20 of them as of mid-afternoon today) are related to ASU Basketball/Devonte Graham. Maybe he is Devonte.

[app123]

That kid could've just withdrawn from high school back in Feb when Capel said no and this would be over. But he acknowledged that he was breaking his contract and opted to sit out a year and Prep. The FAIR thing to due would be just release him and move on. Why try to screw up a kids life?

[asu66]

That kid could've just withdrawn from high school back in Feb when Capel said no and this would be over. But he acknowledged that he was breaking his contract and opted to sit out a year and Prep. The FAIR thing to due would be just release him and move on. Why try to screw up a kids life?

"...he acknowledged that he was breaking his contract ...''

Right you are; and it's called a contract for a reason.

[TheMoody1]

Why try to screw up a kids life?

He will still end up getting a free ride somewhere. His life is hardly screwed up. Why don't you call Capel istead of drama queening it up over here?

[YesAppCan]

123 wrote...
"We are just the only school who doesn't see that our coach is using this kid as a bargaining piece for contract extension. Clearly not about forcing the kid to honor his word. "

PROVE IT!!!

[appgrouch]

That kid could've just withdrawn from high school back in Feb when Capel said no and this would be over. But he acknowledged that he was breaking his contract and opted to sit out a year and Prep. The FAIR thing to due would be just release him and move on. Why try to screw up a kids life?

It might be, but we would need to wait until Feb when he could sign in the late period but not enroll at any other school until Summer 14. If we released him right now he could enroll and be playing by Jan 1.

If he is willing to sit for a year, make him set for a year.

[app123]

that makes sense, hopefully that's what happens

[Appsolutely]

That kid could've just withdrawn from high school back in Feb when Capel said no and this would be over. But he acknowledged that he was breaking his contract and opted to sit out a year and Prep. The FAIR thing to due would be just release him and move on. Why try to screw up a kids life?

The phone just rang, and it's for you. They said they wanted to speak to Haywood Jablome.

[appgrouch]

that makes sense, hopefully that's what happens

I swear I made the same point around post 20.

I have made a 70+ post circle.

[Kgfish]

What's the logic of bringing bad pub to basketball program embroiled in negativity? Over an 18 year old kid who decided he didn't want to play for a bad basketball team. Can't say I blame him. Capel needs to look in the mirror.