Fox

[APPARJ]

Think Fox will be gone by the end of the season?

Does the athletic department have $250,000 to pay a coach to sit at home?

Be careful what you wish for.

[hapapp]

My guess is his contract will be honored and he will have the chance to coach his most talented team. There will be no room for blaming everything on Jason Capel at that point.

My question is, what result next season is needed to extend his time in Boone?

[Yosef84]

Everyone is frustrated with the lack of wins on the basketball court. I really don't care to comment on whether Fox should return. I'm far from an expert in basketball (or any other sport for that matter) but I do have one question: Does Fox have the right supporting staff? Coaching a team isn't a one man job. I understand that building the staff is part of his job, but is the lack of funding preventing him from building a strong staff? Maybe that's not the issue at all. I'm just wondering if a strong #2 would be a big part of the answer.

[AppDawg]

Think Fox will be gone by the end of the season?

Does the athletic department have $250,000 to pay a coach to sit at home?

Be careful what you wish for.

THIS. The last time a donor stepped up, it didn’t turn out so well for our B-ball program.

[appgrouch]

Coach Fox is a very good coach, and his teams have improved each year of his tenure. All good coaches have one basic thing in common...they have good players. Good players are recruited by the coach and his staff as well as the fans and community. How many good football players would be recruited by ASU if they attended a recruiting visit with 10,000 fans in the stands who basically sat on their hands during the game and then went home. I don't live very close to Boone, but I attend most home games and some road games in state. When I am at a game in Boone, I can't help but wonder where several thousand students are spending their time on game days while a few hundred come to the Holmes Center to support the Mountaineers. How many good basketball players or good basketball coaches want to play in a quiet gym with a few hundred fans in the stands? I would love to see the Mountaineers play competitive, championship basketball. As in football, it takes good coaches, good players, and support from the administration, students, and the community to establish a winning program. ASU basketball is not there yet. They are closer than in previous years. But we are falling short in many areas that are within our control. To blame it all on Coach Fox is simplistic, and wrong.

THIS!!!!!!!

Enough with the schizophrenic responses to our basketball team. Get on board and support OUR COACH & OUR TEAM!!

2000–01 Appalachian State 11–20 7–9 T–3rd (North)
2001–02 Appalachian State 10–18 5-11 T–3rd (North)
2002–03 Appalachian State 19–10 11–5 T–1st (North)
2003–04 Appalachian State 9–21 4–12 6th (North)
2004–05 Appalachian State 18–12 9–7 T–2nd (North)
2005–06 Appalachian State 14–16 6–8 4th (North)
2006–07 Appalachian State 25–8 15–3 1st (North) NIT 1st Round
2007–08 Appalachian State 18–13 13–7 T–1st (North)
2008–09 Appalachian State 13–18 9–11 T–2nd (North)

Fancher's Records
Graduated/lost the starting lineup in 2000 - winning record top of division in 02-03
Graduated/lost alot in 2003 - winning record 2nd in division in 04-05
Graduated/lost alot in 2005 - still within 2 games of .500 - winning record top of division NIT birth in 06-07
Graduated/lost alot in 2008 - Bought out by people that wanted Buzz

The crowds were not much better and the support from admin was a lot less than it is now. We have good players, we just can't put it together.

Not to say that Fox is a bad man or a bad coach, but better men have rebuilt and won with less than Fox has now.

[appgrouch]

My guess is his contract will be honored and he will have the chance to coach his most talented team. There will be no room for blaming everything on Jason Capel at that point.

My question is, what result next season is needed to extend his time in Boone?

Winning record
Top half of Sunbelt finish
At least 1 Sunbelt Tourney Round win

[Goapps15]

The only thing he can do the rest of the year is make getting extended next year that much harder.

Yosef84, that may be the best move this off-season. Shake up his assistants. Since we can't fire him force his hand there.

[SpeedkingATL]

Just remember the dumpster fire that Fox inherited. The team is competitive this year; they just can't seem to finish. Let Fox finish his contract next year with what should be his best personnel on court and see what happens.

[Yosef84]

There is no doubt that the team is more competitive this year. I think that is part of the frustration for some, but I'll speak for myself. It was easy to accept losing initially when we simply didn't have the horses. Now, it appears that we have some pretty good horses but they are actually "under performing" for lack of a better term. Most phrase it as "haven't learned how to win." It's really hard to watch the team lose leads in the final minutes and come up short.

When Fox took over, there were an incredible number of issues that had to be improved. Let's not forget that he has done a GREAT job with those off the court issues. It's easy to forget about that part of the progress because it operates in the background and since it's going well, it's not burning our feet! So, often when progress seems slow it is because someone is simply spread too thin. That's what leads to my question about staff. I'm not trying to throw the assistants under the bus either, but providing Fox with a strong #2 who can help with the on-court performance would seem to be a very reasonable step.

[Stonewall]

If we finish above .500 he likely gets an extension. Less than that and he's gone.

[APPARJ]

If we finish above .500 he likely gets an extension. Less than that and he's gone.

If Fox doesn't get above .500 the athletic department will pay him $250,000 to sit at home next year?

[Goapps15]

If we finish above .500 he likely gets an extension. Less than that and he's gone.

If Fox doesn't get above .500 the athletic department will pay him $250,000 to sit at home next year?

ARJ I believe he is talking about next year. That's what I was referring to above. Next year is a given barring scandal.

[MAD Doctor]

Just remember the dumpster fire that Fox inherited. The team is competitive this year; they just can't seem to finish. Let Fox finish his contract next year with what should be his best personnel on court and see what happens.

This is the most sensible scenario.

Looking ahead, next season's bar should be above .500 , and for the love of God, beat Western if we play them.

[EastHallApp]

Personally I've been saying since he went 12-17 his first year that my goal for the next year was to go .500 or better. If we come up short three years in a row and finally do that - but not more - in Fox's fifth year, does that warrant a new contract? If so, for how many years?

I don't know the answer. It's hard for me to make it as simple as picking a number and saying "If we win this many he comes back; if not, he's gone." There are so many other variables. Especially when you're talking about not just letting him return for another year, but potentially signing him for multiple years.

Hopefully we get hot the rest of this year then win 20+ next year and all this is moot.

[appgrouch]

Just remember the dumpster fire that Fox inherited. The team is competitive this year; they just can't seem to finish. Let Fox finish his contract next year with what should be his best personnel on court and see what happens.

This is the most sensible scenario.

Looking ahead, next season's bar should be above .500 , and for the love of God, beat Western if we play them.

Goal @ Length
.500 @ 1yr
.500 & Top Half Sunbelt @ 1-2yrs
Above & Adv in SB Tourney @ 2-3yrs
Above & NCAA Bid @ 3+yrs

[asu66]

Everyo[tweet]ne is frustrated with the lack of wins on the basketball court. I really don't care to comment on whether Fox should return. I'm far from an expert in basketball (or any other sport for that matter) but I do h[/tweet]ave one question: Does Fox have the right supporting staff? Coaching a team isn't a one man job. I understand that building the staff is part of his job, but is the lack of funding preventing him from building a strong staff? Maybe that's not the issue at all. I'm just wondering if a strong #2 would be a big part of the answer.

I've been advocating for a staff shake-up for the last two seasons. I thought it would occur after last season as Fox had to be aware that his future was in jeopardy. With the team's recent slide, he's officially in extreme jeopardy and he will shortly enter final jeopardy. This period of final jeopardy will begin immediately following this season's #Fun Belt Tourney.

Because Fox didn't upgrade his staff after last season when he still had two full seasons remaining on his contract, he's probably got the staff he's going to sink or swim with. It's highly unlikely that a high quality *Number Two* guy would move for what could very well be a one-year gig.

Fox waited too late to hire some *blue-chip* assistance. Whether he was too proud or too loyal or too weak to make a change is moot. He has what he has!

May the good saints protect Coach Fox and bless him today, and may troubles ignore him and his Mountaineers each step of the way through March 2019 and beyond...

[Stonewall]

If we finish above .500 he likely gets an extension. Less than that and he's gone.

If Fox doesn't get above .500 the athletic department will pay him $250,000 to sit at home next year?

No."Extension". At the end of his contract.He is here until the end of the next season barring some unforeseen event.

[Stonewall]

If we finish above .500 he likely gets an extension. Less than that and he's gone.

If Fox doesn't get above .500 the athletic department will pay him $250,000 to sit at home next year?

ARJ I believe he is talking about next year. That's what I was referring to above. Next year is a given barring scandal.

Correct Sir.

[Yosef84]

Everyo[tweet]ne is frustrated with the lack of wins on the basketball court. I really don't care to comment on whether Fox should return. I'm far from an expert in basketball (or any other sport for that matter) but I do h[/tweet]ave one question: Does Fox have the right supporting staff? Coaching a team isn't a one man job. I understand that building the staff is part of his job, but is the lack of funding preventing him from building a strong staff? Maybe that's not the issue at all. I'm just wondering if a strong #2 would be a big part of the answer.

I've been advocating for a staff shake-up for the last two seasons. I thought it would occur after last season as Fox had to be aware that his future was in jeopardy. With the team's recent slide, he's officially in extreme jeopardy and he will shortly enter final jeopardy. This period of final jeopardy will begin immediately following this season's #Fun Belt Tourney.

Because Fox didn't upgrade his staff after last season when he still had two full seasons remaining on his contract, he's probably got the staff he's going to sink or swim with. It's highly unlikely that a high quality *Number Two* guy would move for what could very well be a one-year gig.

Fox waited too late to hire some *blue-chip* assistance. Whether he was too proud or too loyal or too weak to make a change is moot. He has what he has!

May the good saints protect Coach Fox and bless him today, and may troubles ignore him and his Mountaineers each step of the way through March 2019 and beyond...

That makes sense and I had thought about the fact that it would be hard to get someone to come in for a one year contract. The only options I could think of would be someone coming our of retirement for a year or someone who had been displaced. It's a long shot regardless. Maybe he can put the staff through bootcamp and energize them in the off season. When football was implementing the spread, the coaching staff went to WVU and learned the ropes. I wonder if there is a comparable move available. I know I'm grasping at straws. I'd just really like to see the team catch fire for Fox and start winning. He seems like a class act and I'd love to see this program enjoy some success.

[MDaniels84]

I am thankful that we have Coach Fox right now. He has, as others have stated, brought some very positive pieces to our program in the way of recruiting and recruiting student athletes in general. I am cautiously optimistic that this will play to our favor sooner rather than later (meaning a strong finish to this year and a much better overall product on the floor next year). If not, .....