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next basketball coach

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:18 pm
by appdaze
The other threads were long dead and I didn't feel like bumping them.
Seattle asked in the Presby thread who we should have as the next coach.

http://www.texassports.com/sports/m-bas ... yan00.html

This is who gets my vote for the next coach. He is young, has a lot of NC roots. He is also a hardcore fundamentals kind of coach which is why Barnes brought him in to the Texas staff as well as the LR connection. I saw the LR teams that his dad "coached" in the mid 2000's and what was really happening was that Bryan was actually doing most of the coaching. Those were some well run teams. I think he could do a good job at App and bring our program back out of the depths. He has 12 years of experience around these programs.

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:57 pm
by TheMoody1
I don't see any reason to speculate on this until the current guy is gone. :roll:

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:05 pm
by mountaineerman
Sounds great

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:21 pm
by appdaze
TheMoody1 wrote:I don't see any reason to speculate on this until the current guy is gone. :roll:

Capel is 32-41 overall and 3-8 this year. He is gone. This is his contract year if I am not mistaken so hopefully he won't be renewed and we can get a quality guy like Lentz in here.

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:45 pm
by AppGrad78
Capel is in the third year of a four-year contract. As we've seen with one of our football coaches with a multi-year contract, we don't often buy out contracts early. I suspect those hoping we do it in this case will be disappointed.

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:53 pm
by ASU-FTW
Ok then. Who is going to be our coach in 2014? #Don'trenewCapel

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:59 pm
by appdaze
AppGrad78 wrote:Capel is in the third year of a four-year contract. As we've seen with one of our football coaches with a multi-year contract, we don't often buy out contracts early. I suspect those hoping we do it in this case will be disappointed.
Ahh ok I was thinking it was a three year contract, I forgot it was four.

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:15 am
by cbarrier90
It is going to be a very long season, and threads like these aren't going to make life any better. I mean, we won today, for crying out loud. Let's let it all play out first.

Oh, and to answer the question: Matt McMahon.

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:25 am
by Seattleapp
We are not good. We are hoping we can beat Mulligan to get to 4-8 for conference play. That is what our outlook is reduced to?

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:16 am
by cbarrier90
Seattleapp wrote:We are not good. We are hoping we can beat Mulligan to get to 4-8 for conference
play. That is what our outlook is reduced to?
No one is trying to say we're any good, and yes, that's what our outlook is reduced to at the moment. This is Appalachian State basketball we're talking about. I've been here since 2009. I've been watching this downfall from game to game since the final buzzer sounded against Wofford in Charlotte and I left thinking "Wow! This is only Buzz's first year? This could really be something special!" It really is that bad. I hear Mark Few has a heckuva team this year up there in Spokane...

You've been on this crusade for months, and it's gonna take an act of God for Capel to keep his job at this point, but at least let it all play out first. It sucks, but I don't think there's any way Capel gets fired mid-season unless they feel there's someone on staff capable of being an interim (which, IMO, might be even worse.)

As awful as this team is, they could still reasonably finish in the middle-of-the-pack in the SoCon. The talent is there (and the conference is so awful) to at least have a chance to do that.

Back to back triple-digit-attended home games (878 tonight.) :lol: Folks, just think: You are witnesses to the low point in program history. It will get better, because it can't get worse.

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:19 am
by AppStateNation
You gotta feel a little bad for Capel. Making anyone a head coach after 1 year as an assistant is just setting them up for failure.

I think he either gets fired right after this season ends or his contract just doesn't get renewed next season.

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:29 am
by hapapp
This team has shown marked improvement since the disastrous start of the season. The team played much better in losses to Va Tech and East Carolina. Lost a close home game to Duquesne after a poor start. They played well enough to win on the road at Western and South Carolina. They have won two of their last 3 games. This team is probably not as bad as its record indicates.

That said, this team is a long way from being mistaken for a winning program. Unless things turn around, this will mark a third year in a row with the team's record on the decline. I do believe that we need a new person at the helm. However, speculating about the next coach does an injustice to both the team and Coach Capel. One gets the sense that some folks would like to see the misery continue so that Capel gets fired.

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:24 am
by asumike83
Jason Capel will be here at least through the end of the 2014 season when his contract ends. We can either waste our energy calling for his head in the meantime or support the team we've got.

I do get the feeling that many of our fans would just as soon see ASU basketball fail so that they can watch Capel get fired and feel vindicated. He had no head coaching experience and just one season on the bench as an assistant. Hiring someone with such limited experience is setting them up for failure. He is learning on the fly.

As for this season, assuming that we do beat Milligan, that will make us 1-7 without Neal and 3-1 with him. Are we a very good team? No, but we are a better team than we were a few weeks ago.

Regardless of our struggles on the court, there is no damn excuse for a school with 17,000 students and over 100,000 living alumni to put 800 people in the stands for a home basketball game. We want a good, experienced men's head basketball coach at Appalachian and expect to attract one with that kind of 'support'? We've got to do our part as well.

I am as frustrated with the state of our program as anyone and at this point, Coach Capel has certainly not earned the opportunity to have his contract extended. I hope he succeeds but if not, the fans and alumni have to lend some support and showcase the potential of ASU basketball.

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:26 pm
by Seattleapp
It is no crusade and no offense, but being a fan since 2009 doesn't really give much of a point of reference. And saying that our team is bad and our coach is competely over his head is not "hoping for vindication." Capel should never have been hired. If he was a diamond in the rough, no one on this board, myself included would say anything. But we are goin in the opposite direction. And I'll say it again. The So Con is awful this year. we have 3 teams with a winning record and we are root root rooting for a middle of the pack finish. I will continue this "Crusade" as long as we continue to be happy about only seven point losses and maybe we can get up to four games under .500. We absolutely should demand to have a real coach for our basketball program. Yes I wish Buzz would have worked out. He didn't, but why do we have to settle for a novice so far in the other direction?

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:30 pm
by cbarrier90
Seattleapp wrote:It is no crusade and no offense, but being a fan since 2009 doesn't really give much of a point of reference. And saying that our team is bad and our coach is competely over his head is not "hoping for vindication." Capel should never have been hired. If he was a diamond in the rough, no one on this board, myself included would say anything. But we are goin in the opposite direction. And I'll say it again. The So Con is awful this year. we have 3 teams with a winning record and we are root root rooting for a middle of the pack finish. I will continue this "Crusade" as long as we continue to be happy about only seven point losses and maybe we can get up to four games under .500. We absolutely should demand to have a real coach for our basketball program. Yes I wish Buzz would have worked out. He didn't, but why do we have to settle for a novice so far in the other direction?
Because it's what we've got and no amount of kvetching will change it.

Gonzaga is good this year...

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:42 pm
by hapapp
Seattleapp wrote:It is no crusade and no offense, but being a fan since 2009 doesn't really give much of a point of reference. And saying that our team is bad and our coach is competely over his head is not "hoping for vindication." Capel should never have been hired. If he was a diamond in the rough, no one on this board, myself included would say anything. But we are goin in the opposite direction. And I'll say it again. The So Con is awful this year. we have 3 teams with a winning record and we are root root rooting for a middle of the pack finish. I will continue this "Crusade" as long as we continue to be happy about only seven point losses and maybe we can get up to four games under .500. We absolutely should demand to have a real coach for our basketball program. Yes I wish Buzz would have worked out. He didn't, but why do we have to settle for a novice so far in the other direction?
I noticed UVA fell to 0-3 v. the CAA this season. Guess it's time to call for Tony's head! ;)

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:57 pm
by Seattleapp
What is their record this year? Did they make the NCAA tournament last year with 6 healthy players? Apples and oranges my man. But I sure wanted rid of Dave Leiteo when he was there.

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:19 pm
by hapapp
But they're 0-3 against teams from a lesser conference. Before yesterday ODU had won one game and even lost by double digits to Charleston of the SoCon. They are also 0-2 v. teams from the Commonwealth. The difference between UVA and ASU is that once we get into conference play, we are likely to fare better than we have to date. UVA on the other hand will likely see their fortunes go in the opposite direction.

In all seriousness, if we did have Tony at the helm we would likely see a more disciplined team than we put on the floor now. Tony's challenge will be his ability to recruit to compete in the ACC. And yes he is an upgrade from Leiteo.

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:32 pm
by SpeedkingATL
Gotta let this year play out first. How knows....the SoCon isn't exactly the Big 10 and this App team could come together and win a lot of games. At least I hope they can compete in the SoCon. :?: :?: :?:

Re: next basketball coach

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:53 am
by yosefederation
6-12 Socon regular season record is my optimistic prediction this season. Dead serious!