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Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:26 pm
by Boonegoon
Looking at our remaining schedule, we’ve only lost to GSU. Really great chance to finish strong!

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:53 pm
by JMappfan5
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:20 pm
ggasu wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:03 pm
A 2-4 seed is needed in the Obscure Sun Belt Tourney Format.

Win the next 2 at home and that becomes a real possibility. Georgia State currently in 2nd has a crazy tough final 4 game stretch.

This is the first time in a long time that we have a good shot at the NCAA tourney. Hopefully we can get the students behind the team and have good crowds down the stretch.
If he can get a top 4 seed then no doubt Kerns is the SBC COY. I don't see us making the NCAA tourney and I'll be happy to make any tournament after the last few years but I do expect 17 or 18 wins this year. If we can reach that then 20-23 wins should be a legit goal next year.
Losing 3 key starters off this year's team will be tough to replace. Your expectation for 20-23 wins may be a little lofty...LOL!!!!

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:32 pm
by app97
Saint3333 wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:30 pm
Unless we find some post players we aren’t going to be better next year.
CJ Huntley, our recruit from Davidson Day is 6’10” and has a huge upside from what I’ve seen. He might be more of a stretch 4 player though. My guess is that if we don’t land a freshmen post player, we will bring in a juco who can contribute right away. We still have 3 scholarship spots to fill.

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:04 pm
by AppStFan1
hapapp wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:38 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:20 pm
ggasu wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:03 pm
A 2-4 seed is needed in the Obscure Sun Belt Tourney Format.

Win the next 2 at home and that becomes a real possibility. Georgia State currently in 2nd has a crazy tough final 4 game stretch.

This is the first time in a long time that we have a good shot at the NCAA tourney. Hopefully we can get the students behind the team and have good crowds down the stretch.
If he can get a top 4 seed then no doubt Kerns is the SBC COY. I don't see us making the NCAA tourney and I'll be happy to make any tournament after the last few years but I do expect 17 or 18 wins this year. If we can reach that then 20-23 wins should be a legit goal next year.
We do lose three starters off this team. Frankly, Kerns benefitted from a inheriting a veteran squad. The real challenge could be next year. That should not be taken in any way as an intended slight. He has done a remarkable job getting this team to play a solid game of D. I would certainly think he will get some consideration for COY but if LR continues on their pace, their coach will likely take the honors.
I thought we would win 13-14 games this year so if Kerns can reach 19 wins, which is possible, I would give it to him. I do agree the LR coach has them rolling and he would be a good one. I just felt they had a much better team so if we could rise up to 2nd or 3rd in standings I would say that is very deserving of consideration for COY.

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:37 pm
by Saint3333
If he gets a top 4 seed he should by COY.

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:14 am
by Yosef84
Saint3333 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:37 pm
If he gets a top 4 seed he should by COY.
The "homer" in me agrees but Arkansas Little Rock won only 10 games last season and was picked near the bottom of the conference. I would say their coach has a pretty valid claim to the COY also.

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:44 am
by hapapp
Yosef84 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:14 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:37 pm
If he gets a top 4 seed he should by COY.
The "homer" in me agrees but Arkansas Little Rock won only 10 games last season and was picked near the bottom of the conference. I would say their coach has a pretty valid claim to the COY also.
They also finished below us in the standings last season.

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:52 am
by agentpaul001
We were missing Isaac during the Georgia St game as well. Him being back in the rotation will lead to an entirely different game. Although we'll need to shoot better then 50% from the FT line & hopefully our FG % will be a bit better. We've only lost twice since Isaac has been back and both losses were to UALR, that unfortunately has been fantastic this season. I thought our second game against them was probably one of our best games all season, but they were just hitting everything.

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:57 am
by VNova
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:49 pm
I feel like Kerns has the ability to adapt to different teams with different strengths and weaknesses and not just have the same team every year.

Hustle, going after loose balls and defense are almost universal, so you can have those as building blocks and create different identities.

Hence why I'm not as concerned about the future, as long as Kerns isn't lured away.
How common is this for basketball coaches?

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:21 pm
by GregPercussion
VNova wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:57 am
T-Dog wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:49 pm
I feel like Kerns has the ability to adapt to different teams with different strengths and weaknesses and not just have the same team every year.

Hustle, going after loose balls and defense are almost universal, so you can have those as building blocks and create different identities.

Hence why I'm not as concerned about the future, as long as Kerns isn't lured away.
How common is this for basketball coaches?
Just as likely as in Football. I mean, that's how we got Kerns from PC. These guys wanna support their family and coach at the best schools.

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:38 pm
by bigdaddyg
Based on who everyone above us plays in their final 2 games it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that several teams (including us) end up 10-8. Even Texas State has two toughies to go. Just for kicks and giggles if there is a tie between several teams at 10-8 and the schools split head to head how is seeding decided?

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:36 pm
by GregPercussion
bigdaddyg wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:38 pm
Based on who everyone above us plays in their final 2 games it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that several teams (including us) end up 10-8. Even Texas State has two toughies to go. Just for kicks and giggles if there is a tie between several teams at 10-8 and the schools split head to head how is seeding decided?
I tried to search for the exact source for this, but basically it comes down to whatever teams are tied, they look at "who beat who" in the series, (1&1, sweep) and that should be the first main tie breaker.

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:52 pm
by agentpaul001
South Alabama unfortunately has some very solid tiebreakers, so I don't think there is any scenario where a #2 is in play. The #3/#4 are very possible though with a couple wins and some luck.

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:05 pm
by firemoose
GregPercussion wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:36 pm
bigdaddyg wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:38 pm
Based on who everyone above us plays in their final 2 games it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that several teams (including us) end up 10-8. Even Texas State has two toughies to go. Just for kicks and giggles if there is a tie between several teams at 10-8 and the schools split head to head how is seeding decided?
I tried to search for the exact source for this, but basically it comes down to whatever teams are tied, they look at "who beat who" in the series, (1&1, sweep) and that should be the first main tie breaker.
Halfway through article...

https://247sports.com/college/appalachi ... 144225592/

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:25 pm
by asu66
firemoose wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:05 pm
GregPercussion wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:36 pm
bigdaddyg wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:38 pm
Based on who everyone above us plays in their final 2 games it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that several teams (including us) end up 10-8. Even Texas State has two toughies to go. Just for kicks and giggles if there is a tie between several teams at 10-8 and the schools split head to head how is seeding decided?
I tried to search for the exact source for this, but basically it comes down to whatever teams are tied, they look at "who beat who" in the series, (1&1, sweep) and that should be the first main tie breaker.
Halfway through article...

https://247sports.com/college/appalachi ... 144225592/
Great summary of the Apps' opportunities over the next two or three weeks. This team deserves to have some fun and make some post-season noise after what they (especially the juniors and seniors) have endured in their time as Mountaineers. Give 'em Hell, Apps!

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:49 am
by Saint3333
Win the next two and one game in the tournament and I like our chances at a CIT bid.

Re: Finish Strong 2 seed possible

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:07 pm
by agentpaul001
Nice little article, but I believe the author is incorrect about the tournament site:

For App State, finishing no worse than sixth prevents the Mountaineers from hosting an on-campus play-in game on Saturday before tournament week. Then, fifth and sixth-place teams face the winners of those play-in games the following Monday in New Orleans. A third or fourth-place finish would give App State a bye all the way into the Wednesday round.

The following is from Sunbelt BBalls tournament site:

First-round games on Saturday, March 7, second-round games on Monday, March 9 and quarterfinal games on Wednesday, March 11 will be held on campus sites and hosted by the higher seeds. The semifinals on Saturday, March 14 and championship game on Sunday, March 15 will be held at the Smoothie King Center in New Orleans.

They still have the old bracket on the site, but if you pull the new bracket they specifically say Host/Campus sites until Semis. So long story short, App will very likely be hosting one or more Campus games.

They're also only selling tickets for Semis/Finals at Smoothie King.