MBB vs Central Penn, Tues 12/5 8pm

[asumba95]

If you want more people to come support the team:

1) Have a good team that plays hard and is competitive (looks like that is covered)
2) Don't play teams like Central Penn. If we can get Auburn to come to Boone, then getting some good mid-major opponents for a home/home series shouldn't be an issue. Playing teams like Davidson, College of Charleston, Richmond, etc should be an option.

thoughts??

I completely agree, but you have to get those teams to agree to come play you. Also, while basketball schedules aren't scheduled as far ahead as football, they are scheduled well ahead of time. So even if App scheduled Davidson, UNC-A, Charleston, etc. those games wouldn't be played for 2-3 years.

Auburn and other top level teams have the resources such as chartered flights, etc. I assume to make a trip like this workable..Most, if not all, mid majors are flying commercial. If they fly into Gboro or Charlotte, they then have a 2 hour drive to Boone. I would think this is an impediment to teams outside of NC unless close like etsu...as well as the EasyUs and UNCWs of the world on the East Coast of NC
I am not sure we are able to schedule the same teams every year from say Raleigh West to come to Boone. There would have to be home and homes... and 4 of those teams are not traveling to Boone...I would think we would have to fork out some decent amount of money to get teams like Butler, VCU, etc. to travel to Boone. Not sure we have funds in the budget to do that.

All valid points. I guess that's one drawback of Boone's "remote" location (relative to other schools). As usual, it comes down to $$$.

[APPdiesel]

Show up and show out! Got to get the sports marketing department to find some serious great freebie opps. for students......pizza, canned beer with ID, etc. 20k student body, should at least be able to get 5k to each game!!!!

Not trying to start an argument with you, but I just don't think giving away stuff really affects attendance. I remember some great giveaways (tshirts, pizza, etc.) when I was in school, and I still didn't go because App wasn't very good in basketball at the time.
A good product and quality opponents will bring attendance. I really think this Auburn win could be a huge bump. From what I've been able to see on TV, it looks like the students are already showing up at a decent rate. I think it's getting other folks who aren't in school to come watch basketball that is the trick.
If I lived within 30-45 minutes, I'd make a lot more effort to go for sure.

There’s also some dodgy legalities with giving away beer. You can do it but you have to give away a gift card or something that can be used at a concession stand that sells beer.

[APPdiesel]

If you want more people to come support the team:

1) Have a good team that plays hard and is competitive (looks like that is covered)
2) Don't play teams like Central Penn. If we can get Auburn to come to Boone, then getting some good mid-major opponents for a home/home series shouldn't be an issue. Playing teams like Davidson, College of Charleston, Richmond, etc should be an option.

thoughts??

I completely agree, but you have to get those teams to agree to come play you. Also, while basketball schedules aren't scheduled as far ahead as football, they are scheduled well ahead of time. So even if App scheduled Davidson, UNC-A, Charleston, etc. those games wouldn't be played for 2-3 years.

Auburn and other top level teams have the resources such as chartered flights, etc. I assume to make a trip like this workable..Most, if not all, mid majors are flying commercial. If they fly into Gboro or Charlotte, they then have a 2 hour drive to Boone. I would think this is an impediment to teams outside of NC unless close like etsu...as well as the EasyUs and UNCWs of the world on the East Coast of NC
I am not sure we are able to schedule the same teams every year from say Raleigh West to come to Boone. There would have to be home and homes... and 4 of those teams are not traveling to Boone...I would think we would have to fork out some decent amount of money to get teams like Butler, VCU, etc. to travel to Boone. Not sure we have funds in the budget to do that.

I’ll have to ask my pilot buddy how long a runway has to be to land the size of planes needed to charter basketball teams. I screen shot and counted the App bench yesterday and there were roughly 22 total people: players, coaches, and support staff. A quick google says the max traveling party is 34 per ncaa rules, so that’d be the size plane a team would have to charter. Doug’s flown into the Boone air strip in his single engine Sesna and told me the the airport’s runway is tiny and scary .

[asumba95]

If you want more people to come support the team:

1) Have a good team that plays hard and is competitive (looks like that is covered)
2) Don't play teams like Central Penn. If we can get Auburn to come to Boone, then getting some good mid-major opponents for a home/home series shouldn't be an issue. Playing teams like Davidson, College of Charleston, Richmond, etc should be an option.

thoughts??

I completely agree, but you have to get those teams to agree to come play you. Also, while basketball schedules aren't scheduled as far ahead as football, they are scheduled well ahead of time. So even if App scheduled Davidson, UNC-A, Charleston, etc. those games wouldn't be played for 2-3 years.

Auburn and other top level teams have the resources such as chartered flights, etc. I assume to make a trip like this workable..Most, if not all, mid majors are flying commercial. If they fly into Gboro or Charlotte, they then have a 2 hour drive to Boone. I would think this is an impediment to teams outside of NC unless close like etsu...as well as the EasyUs and UNCWs of the world on the East Coast of NC
I am not sure we are able to schedule the same teams every year from say Raleigh West to come to Boone. There would have to be home and homes... and 4 of those teams are not traveling to Boone...I would think we would have to fork out some decent amount of money to get teams like Butler, VCU, etc. to travel to Boone. Not sure we have funds in the budget to do that.

I’ll have to ask my pilot buddy how long a runway has to be to land the size of planes needed to charter basketball teams. I screen shot and counted the App bench yesterday and there were roughly 22 total people: players, coaches, and support staff. A quick google says the max traveling party is 34 per ncaa rules, so that’d be the size plane a team would have to charter. Doug’s flown into the Boone air strip in his single engine Sesna and told me the the airport’s runway is tiny and scary .

I've never been in a private plane, but have seen Boone's airport. Elk Rivers' looks safer.

[APPdiesel]

If you want more people to come support the team:

1) Have a good team that plays hard and is competitive (looks like that is covered)
2) Don't play teams like Central Penn. If we can get Auburn to come to Boone, then getting some good mid-major opponents for a home/home series shouldn't be an issue. Playing teams like Davidson, College of Charleston, Richmond, etc should be an option.

thoughts??

I completely agree, but you have to get those teams to agree to come play you. Also, while basketball schedules aren't scheduled as far ahead as football, they are scheduled well ahead of time. So even if App scheduled Davidson, UNC-A, Charleston, etc. those games wouldn't be played for 2-3 years.

Auburn and other top level teams have the resources such as chartered flights, etc. I assume to make a trip like this workable..Most, if not all, mid majors are flying commercial. If they fly into Gboro or Charlotte, they then have a 2 hour drive to Boone. I would think this is an impediment to teams outside of NC unless close like etsu...as well as the EasyUs and UNCWs of the world on the East Coast of NC
I am not sure we are able to schedule the same teams every year from say Raleigh West to come to Boone. There would have to be home and homes... and 4 of those teams are not traveling to Boone...I would think we would have to fork out some decent amount of money to get teams like Butler, VCU, etc. to travel to Boone. Not sure we have funds in the budget to do that.

I’ll have to ask my pilot buddy how long a runway has to be to land the size of planes needed to charter basketball teams. I screen shot and counted the App bench yesterday and there were roughly 22 total people: players, coaches, and support staff. A quick google says the max traveling party is 34 per ncaa rules, so that’d be the size plane a team would have to charter. Doug’s flown into the Boone air strip in his single engine Sesna and told me the the airport’s runway is tiny and scary .

I've never been in a private plane, but have seen Boone's airport. Elk Rivers' looks safer.

Yeah it would take some investment for sure to get Boone airport up to snuff. As tight as financials are in college athletics I doubt the university would front some of that investment, I’d have to think it would have to come from the Boone airport owners and/or private donors.

[Saint3333]

If you want more people to come support the team:

1) Have a good team that plays hard and is competitive (looks like that is covered)
2) Don't play teams like Central Penn. If we can get Auburn to come to Boone, then getting some good mid-major opponents for a home/home series shouldn't be an issue. Playing teams like Davidson, College of Charleston, Richmond, etc should be an option.

thoughts??

#1 is covered which is great.

For #2 we play ETSU and UNCA which are solid mid-major teams then we play our conference games. I don't see our basketball schedule as inherently weaker than our football schedule (sans Central Penn).

#1 is what matters, win the games.

[Stonewall]

We talk to every D1 in the Carolinas offering home and home.

so no teams want to come to Boone?

Not “no teams” , but very few.

[PoplarHillApp]

I completely agree, but you have to get those teams to agree to come play you. Also, while basketball schedules aren't scheduled as far ahead as football, they are scheduled well ahead of time. So even if App scheduled Davidson, UNC-A, Charleston, etc. those games wouldn't be played for 2-3 years.

Auburn and other top level teams have the resources such as chartered flights, etc. I assume to make a trip like this workable..Most, if not all, mid majors are flying commercial. If they fly into Gboro or Charlotte, they then have a 2 hour drive to Boone. I would think this is an impediment to teams outside of NC unless close like etsu...as well as the EasyUs and UNCWs of the world on the East Coast of NC
I am not sure we are able to schedule the same teams every year from say Raleigh West to come to Boone. There would have to be home and homes... and 4 of those teams are not traveling to Boone...I would think we would have to fork out some decent amount of money to get teams like Butler, VCU, etc. to travel to Boone. Not sure we have funds in the budget to do that.

I’ll have to ask my pilot buddy how long a runway has to be to land the size of planes needed to charter basketball teams. I screen shot and counted the App bench yesterday and there were roughly 22 total people: players, coaches, and support staff. A quick google says the max traveling party is 34 per ncaa rules, so that’d be the size plane a team would have to charter. Doug’s flown into the Boone air strip in his single engine Sesna and told me the the airport’s runway is tiny and scary .

I've never been in a private plane, but have seen Boone's airport. Elk Rivers' looks safer.

Yeah it would take some investment for sure to get Boone airport up to snuff. As tight as financials are in college athletics I doubt the university would front some of that investment, I’d have to think it would have to come from the Boone airport owners and/or private donors.

Mountain City, TN airport could handle it, and it's only 1/2 hour drive from the airport to Boone.

[311neers]

Auburn and other top level teams have the resources such as chartered flights, etc. I assume to make a trip like this workable..Most, if not all, mid majors are flying commercial. If they fly into Gboro or Charlotte, they then have a 2 hour drive to Boone. I would think this is an impediment to teams outside of NC unless close like etsu...as well as the EasyUs and UNCWs of the world on the East Coast of NC
I am not sure we are able to schedule the same teams every year from say Raleigh West to come to Boone. There would have to be home and homes... and 4 of those teams are not traveling to Boone...I would think we would have to fork out some decent amount of money to get teams like Butler, VCU, etc. to travel to Boone. Not sure we have funds in the budget to do that.

I’ll have to ask my pilot buddy how long a runway has to be to land the size of planes needed to charter basketball teams. I screen shot and counted the App bench yesterday and there were roughly 22 total people: players, coaches, and support staff. A quick google says the max traveling party is 34 per ncaa rules, so that’d be the size plane a team would have to charter. Doug’s flown into the Boone air strip in his single engine Sesna and told me the the airport’s runway is tiny and scary .

I've never been in a private plane, but have seen Boone's airport. Elk Rivers' looks safer.

Yeah it would take some investment for sure to get Boone airport up to snuff. As tight as financials are in college athletics I doubt the university would front some of that investment, I’d have to think it would have to come from the Boone airport owners and/or private donors.

Mountain City, TN airport could handle it, and it's only 1/2 hour drive from the airport to Boone.

Elk River plenty long enough for charter but it’s private and they would need clearance. Boone is way too short, not much room for expansion with the creek and also pretty sketchy. Lenoir/Morganton or Hickory is probably the best bet. I think you’d need about +-5000 ft runway minimum.

[APPdiesel]

Auburn and other top level teams have the resources such as chartered flights, etc. I assume to make a trip like this workable..Most, if not all, mid majors are flying commercial. If they fly into Gboro or Charlotte, they then have a 2 hour drive to Boone. I would think this is an impediment to teams outside of NC unless close like etsu...as well as the EasyUs and UNCWs of the world on the East Coast of NC
I am not sure we are able to schedule the same teams every year from say Raleigh West to come to Boone. There would have to be home and homes... and 4 of those teams are not traveling to Boone...I would think we would have to fork out some decent amount of money to get teams like Butler, VCU, etc. to travel to Boone. Not sure we have funds in the budget to do that.

I’ll have to ask my pilot buddy how long a runway has to be to land the size of planes needed to charter basketball teams. I screen shot and counted the App bench yesterday and there were roughly 22 total people: players, coaches, and support staff. A quick google says the max traveling party is 34 per ncaa rules, so that’d be the size plane a team would have to charter. Doug’s flown into the Boone air strip in his single engine Sesna and told me the the airport’s runway is tiny and scary .

I've never been in a private plane, but have seen Boone's airport. Elk Rivers' looks safer.

Yeah it would take some investment for sure to get Boone airport up to snuff. As tight as financials are in college athletics I doubt the university would front some of that investment, I’d have to think it would have to come from the Boone airport owners and/or private donors.

Mountain City, TN airport could handle it, and it's only 1/2 hour drive from the airport to Boone.

Not saying you’re wrong but my point is the types of programs we want to attract want the easy in easy out charter experience. They want to fly into the town they’re visiting, not take a winding 30 minute drive through the mountains that they will perceive as difficult and dangerous (especially during basketball season with potentially snowy conditions).

I’m sure there would be other positive economic impacts as well of having a “larger than we have now” airport in Boone that charter planes can use.

[Cro-Magnon App]

A pleasant 30 drive through the mountains is an experience everyone should have!

[Bootsy]

A pleasant 30 drive through the mountains is an experience everyone should have!

Especially visiting teams…gives them a chance to get motion sickness coming up the mountain. I suppose App might consider that a competitive advantage.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Once discussions reach the point of runway lengths and drives to and from airports it's officially off the usual rails.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

It’s simply an in-season exhibition game that actually counts on our record. We’ve done it the last several years. Carlow, Boyce, etc. Mostly right before of during exams.

We count it in our records. Sometimes the other teams do and sometimes they do not based on a few previous years, and the NCAA and some of the variety of polls certainly do not from what I can tell (maybe if we lose it goes into the NET ratings but I don't see anything to suggest a win would be used in the NET ratings. How do you put a DII, or DIII, or NAIA team on a quadrant? I don't think the NCAA does.

[Rekdiver]

Wilksboro could handle it.

[proasu89]

Once discussions reach the point of runway lengths and drives to and from airports it's officially off the usual rails.

You don’t always beat a team by 70……but when you do………

[ASU843]

Wilksboro could handle it.

I heard somewhere that Wilkesboro is expanding its airport to better handle Samaritans Purse planes.

[Bigdaddyg1]

For what it's worth how many major colleges are within a 30 minute drive from the closest major airport? How far is the drive from RDU to the Dean Dome for instance? When teams fly in to play JMU what is the closest airport? Just curious as I have zero idea and zero interest.

[Stonewall]

We have some tough games coming up.

[hapapp]

For what it's worth how many major colleges are within a 30 minute drive from the closest major airport? How far is the drive from RDU to the Dean Dome for instance? When teams fly in to play JMU what is the closest airport? Just curious as I have zero idea and zero interest.

https://flyshd.com/

https://flyshd.com/airline-information/jmu-travel/