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New Hoops Coach WILL NOT Be Bobby Lutz
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New Hoops Coach WILL NOT Be Bobby Lutz
Per Coach Lutz's Twitter account:
Bobby Lutz @bobby_lutz · 4m
W/drew name from App State.Charlie Cobb 1st class. All the best. So excited to be with Mark Gottfried and NC State. Future is bright. #wpn
Bobby Lutz @bobby_lutz · 4m
W/drew name from App State.Charlie Cobb 1st class. All the best. So excited to be with Mark Gottfried and NC State. Future is bright. #wpn
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Re: New Hoops Coach WILL NOT Be Bobby Lutz
Not surprised! Must not have met his salary requirements OR the APR mess turned him off. Or both.
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some of these guys are jockeying for pay raises at where they are currently. dont like this....recruits will get antsy. hope we have a plan b thru z....
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PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:some of these guys are jockeying for pay raises at where they are currently. dont like this....recruits will get antsy. hope we have a plan b thru z....
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Re: New Hoops Coach WILL NOT Be Bobby Lutz
I know I'm supposed to be disappointed about this, but I just can't convince myself to be.
However, this search is turning into a PR disaster for App.
Lutz can send all the nice words App's way he wants, but that tweet does us no favors at all and is a pretty big slap in the face to Cobb if you ask me.
However, this search is turning into a PR disaster for App.
Lutz can send all the nice words App's way he wants, but that tweet does us no favors at all and is a pretty big slap in the face to Cobb if you ask me.
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Yes another coach with 0 head coaching experience and within the same coaching tree we have been in for nearly 2 decades.asu66 wrote:PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:some of these guys are jockeying for pay raises at where they are currently. dont like this....recruits will get antsy. hope we have a plan b thru z....
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I would hire him but I do not like that he is from the same tree as the past 3 coaches (Buzz twice). I would like to get a fresh name and ideology.
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Big PR disaster....the next guy offered the job will know that everyone knows he was the "left over" choice. Not that we can't get someone good, but I never like someone to know they were my "second choice".EastHallApp wrote:I know I'm supposed to be disappointed about this, but I just can't convince myself to be.
However, this search is turning into a PR disaster for App.
Lutz can send all the nice words App's way he wants, but that tweet does us no favors at all and is a pretty big slap in the face to Cobb if you ask me.
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If that is the biggest problem we have, that it is a "left over" choice then we will be lucky.Maddog1956 wrote:Big PR disaster....the next guy offered the job will know that everyone knows he was the "left over" choice. Not that we can't get someone good, but I never like someone to know they were my "second choice".EastHallApp wrote:I know I'm supposed to be disappointed about this, but I just can't convince myself to be.
However, this search is turning into a PR disaster for App.
Lutz can send all the nice words App's way he wants, but that tweet does us no favors at all and is a pretty big slap in the face to Cobb if you ask me.
Tennessee football did the same before hiring Butch Jones, and he made light of it. He was the 4th or 5th choice there.
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He has been an assistant coach for over a decade now. You can't even begin to compare that to Capel.Goapps15 wrote:Yes another coach with 0 head coaching experience and within the same coaching tree we have been in for nearly 2 decades.asu66 wrote:PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:some of these guys are jockeying for pay raises at where they are currently. dont like this....recruits will get antsy. hope we have a plan b thru z....
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McMahon, Matthew J Asst Mens Basketball Coach
Office Phone: 809-6768
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Email: mmcmahon@murraystate.edu
I would hire him but I do not like that he is from the same tree as the past 3 coaches (Buzz twice). I would like to get a fresh name and ideology.
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Maddog1956 wrote:Big PR disaster....the next guy offered the job will know that everyone knows he was the "left over" choice. Not that we can't get someone good, but I never like someone to know they were my "second choice".EastHallApp wrote:I know I'm supposed to be disappointed about this, but I just can't convince myself to be.
However, this search is turning into a PR disaster for App.
Lutz can send all the nice words App's way he wants, but that tweet does us no favors at all and is a pretty big slap in the face to Cobb if you ask me.
On a positive note it could put a chip on said coaches shoulder to prove he is better than the first choice.
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I never compared him with Capel, except for the fact he has not been a head coach. McMahon should have been the hire last time but I am not sure he is the right hire now.ASUPATCH wrote:He has been an assistant coach for over a decade now. You can't even begin to compare that to Capel.Goapps15 wrote:Yes another coach with 0 head coaching experience and within the same coaching tree we have been in for nearly 2 decades.asu66 wrote:PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:some of these guys are jockeying for pay raises at where they are currently. dont like this....recruits will get antsy. hope we have a plan b thru z....
Murray State University Athletics
McMahon, Matthew J Asst Mens Basketball Coach
Office Phone: 809-6768
Office Location: 217 SS
Email: mmcmahon@murraystate.edu
I would hire him but I do not like that he is from the same tree as the past 3 coaches (Buzz twice). I would like to get a fresh name and ideology.
I like him a lot but I would much rather us hire a guy who is a head coach at the D2 level first.
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It's not the biggest problem we have. It's just one more added to the list. But it does not speak well for the person(s) running this search.Goapps15 wrote:If that is the biggest problem we have, that it is a "left over" choice then we will be lucky.Maddog1956 wrote:Big PR disaster....the next guy offered the job will know that everyone knows he was the "left over" choice. Not that we can't get someone good, but I never like someone to know they were my "second choice".EastHallApp wrote:I know I'm supposed to be disappointed about this, but I just can't convince myself to be.
However, this search is turning into a PR disaster for App.
Lutz can send all the nice words App's way he wants, but that tweet does us no favors at all and is a pretty big slap in the face to Cobb if you ask me.
Tennessee football did the same before hiring Butch Jones, and he made light of it. He was the 4th or 5th choice there.
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Goapps15 wrote:Yes another coach with 0 head coaching experience and within the same coaching tree we have been in for nearly 2 decades.asu66 wrote:PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:some of these guys are jockeying for pay raises at where they are currently. dont like this....recruits will get antsy. hope we have a plan b thru z....
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McMahon, Matthew J Asst Mens Basketball Coach
Office Phone: 809-6768
Office Location: 217 SS
Email: mmcmahon@murraystate.edu
I would hire him but I do not like that he is from the same tree as the past 3 coaches (Buzz twice). I would like to get a fresh name and ideology.
If he can get Buzz's results minus Buzz's... everything else, then sign me up yesterday.
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There are TWO reasons that candidates remove their names from consideration for a very visible position.EastHallApp wrote:I know I'm supposed to be disappointed about this, but I just can't convince myself to be.
However, this search is turning into a PR disaster for App.
Lutz can send all the nice words App's way he wants, but that tweet does us no favors at all and is a pretty big slap in the face to Cobb if you ask me.
One is that they become uncomfortable with contract terms [salary, benefits, perks, tough challenges] being offered by the proposed new employer/or/that their current employer has sweetened the pot to convince them to stay put]. [Some are assuming this to be the case.]
The other is that the person [in this case Lutz] wishes to save face because he's learned that the job is really being offered to another candidate who is likely to accept.
We can hope it's #2. If it is, we will begin to hear the name in speculation very, very soon.
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asu66 wrote:PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:some of these guys are jockeying for pay raises at where they are currently. dont like this....recruits will get antsy. hope we have a plan b thru z....
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McMahon, Matthew J Asst Mens Basketball Coach
Office Phone: 809-6768
Office Location: 217 SS
Email: mmcmahon@murraystate.edu
THIS x 1000!
Let's get someone who truly wants to be here, and will put everything into rebuilding this mess.
Come on Charlie... DO THE RIGHT THING!
When will "It's better than what we had" no longer be good enough for App State?
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I would send him an email. I did and to my surprise he responded.JTApps1 wrote:asu66 wrote:PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY wrote:some of these guys are jockeying for pay raises at where they are currently. dont like this....recruits will get antsy. hope we have a plan b thru z....
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McMahon, Matthew J Asst Mens Basketball Coach
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Email: mmcmahon@murraystate.edu
THIS x 1000!
Let's get someone who truly wants to be here, and will put everything into rebuilding this mess.
Come on Charlie... DO THE RIGHT THING!
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This is true, however, with both Lutz and Rhoades having been identified as the primary candidates in mainstream media reports (as opposed to just message board speculation), it guarantees that Cobb will have to answer questions at the new coach's introductory press conference about having missed on at least his first couple of targets.asu66 wrote:There are TWO reasons that candidates remove their names from consideration for a very visible position.EastHallApp wrote:I know I'm supposed to be disappointed about this, but I just can't convince myself to be.
However, this search is turning into a PR disaster for App.
Lutz can send all the nice words App's way he wants, but that tweet does us no favors at all and is a pretty big slap in the face to Cobb if you ask me.
One is that they become uncomfortable with contract terms [salary, benefits, perks, tough challenges] being offered by the proposed new employer/or/that their current employer has sweetened the pot to convince them to stay put]. [Some are assuming this to be the case.]
The other is that the person [in this case Lutz] wishes to save face because he's learned that the job is really being offered to another candidate who is likely to accept.
We can hope it's #2. If it is, we will begin to hear the name in speculation very, very soon.
If it were just Lutz, I'd say there was a decent chance that Lutz himself (or someone from his camp) was the one leaking his name to the press. But with two guys (unless they share an agent or something), it leads me to think the info may have come from App's side. Hope I'm wrong about that.
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No one's with any repute wants their name on Capel's wasteland. It's understandable.
Would the Belt kick us out if we dropped basketball?
Would the Belt kick us out if we dropped basketball?