S.Bama 68, Mountaineers 67 under 2:00 to play

Did I say this is a MUST win.

70-69 Bad Guys under 1 minute.

Apps fall 75-71 and now occupy last place.

Three people commenting on this thread about the MBB game answers the other thread asking about why attendance is down.

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:Three people commenting on this thread about the MBB game answers the other thread asking about why attendance is down.

A handful of us were actually at the game.

proasu89 wrote:

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:Three people commenting on this thread about the MBB game answers the other thread asking about why attendance is down.

A handful of us were actually at the game.

I'm not downing or questioning anyone's commitment to attend games, just simply pointing out that the majority have no interest. I envy you for being able to attend the games. I keep track on my phone when I can and try to make a game or two a year. Hard to do when you live 6 hours away, married with two kids one of whom is 3 months old...compared to when I was enjoying college and attended almost every game.

I really wish students would have more interest.

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:

proasu89 wrote:

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:Three people commenting on this thread about the MBB game answers the other thread asking about why attendance is down.

A handful of us were actually at the game.

I'm not downing or questioning anyone's commitment to attend games, just simply pointing out that the majority have no interest. I envy you for being able to attend the games. I keep track on my phone when I can and try to make a game or two a year. Hard to do when you live 6 hours away, married with two kids one of whom is 3 months old...compared to when I was enjoying college and attended almost every game.

I really wish students would have more interest.

No worries, there was actually only a handful of us at the game.
I love my Apps but truthfully I don't know how far I would drive from to see them play right now.

Another close loss. Does Fox not get any of the blame? I don't care who's fault it is, we should not be in last place. He's lost close game after close game.

Goapps15 wrote:Another close loss. Does Fox not get any of the blame? I don't care who's fault it is, we should not be in last place. He's lost close game after close game.

Not from me. I know a good coach when I see one. Reminds me of Satterfield's first season. Fox will get things turned around.

Goapps15 wrote:Another close loss. Does Fox not get any of the blame? I don't care who's fault it is, we should not be in last place. He's lost close game after close game.

Not from me.

Our two bball programs are a combined 14-36 and collectively have lost 9 straight. Neither team is wrapping up the season on a high note. The women are sitting in 8th right now. If they can hold on at least one of our two will make it to NO.

I have never understood the "love fest" that some on this board seem to have with Coach Fox. Living in Atlanta I don't get to see many games in person but I listen to almost every game and keep hearing the same mistakes being made over and over. Coach Fox seems to be a nice guy and says all the right things. I know he inherited a dumpster fire when he was hired, but I had hoped to see some improvement this year over last instead of further deterioration. Is there something that you guys see in person that convinces you that things will get better under Coach Fox? I realize this is only his second year but how long do things have to be this bad until you start looking at the coaching staff and/or lack of recruiting?

AtlantaMountaineer wrote:I have never understood the "love fest" that some on this board seem to have with Coach Fox. Living in Atlanta I don't get to see many games in person but I listen to almost every game and keep hearing the same mistakes being made over and over. Coach Fox seems to be a nice guy and says all the right things. I know he inherited a dumpster fire when he was hired, but I had hoped to see some improvement this year over last instead of further deterioration. Is there something that you guys see in person that convinces you that things will get better under Coach Fox? I realize this is only his second year but how long do things have to be this bad until you start looking at the coaching staff and/or lack of recruiting?

good question. I had hoped/thought that we would see improvement this year as well. Eaves is still doing his thing and Shabazz is starting and much more of a scorer on the wing than Babic and Clarke were last year, but our record is worse this year. Burgess sort of disappears sometimes for some reason, as far as scoring goes, but Shabazz has more than than replaced that scoring this season. Spagnolo is the missing piece from last year that has not been replaced, although collectively, our big guys probably provide the scoring/rebounding that he did sometimes. As far as recruiting goes, I feel like Fox has recruited guys in his first couple of years that would do well in the classroom and fit the system, including tons of walk-ons who never see the court. This helps our APR issue from the Capel era. But Fox and company will have to start convincing players that good things are in store who might otherwise sign with other schools. I feel like Fox's players play hard, but there is a lack of resolve to get a win for some reason. Not sure that we can make many conclusions until at least another 2 years, after the Capel fumes have been completely released

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:

proasu89 wrote:

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:Three people commenting on this thread about the MBB game answers the other thread asking about why attendance is down.

A handful of us were actually at the game.

I'm not downing or questioning anyone's commitment to attend games, just simply pointing out that the majority have no interest.

I have interest, but what is there to say when you're 6-20? At some point it's hard to find much new to add after yet another loss.

AtlantaMountaineer wrote:I have never understood the "love fest" that some on this board seem to have with Coach Fox. Living in Atlanta I don't get to see many games in person but I listen to almost every game and keep hearing the same mistakes being made over and over. Coach Fox seems to be a nice guy and says all the right things. I know he inherited a dumpster fire when he was hired, but I had hoped to see some improvement this year over last instead of further deterioration. Is there something that you guys see in person that convinces you that things will get better under Coach Fox? I realize this is only his second year but how long do things have to be this bad until you start looking at the coaching staff and/or lack of recruiting?

His first team won several more games than probably anyone realistically expected. That, combined with charisma and a solid resume, buys some good will.

Whereas last year's team won more than its share of the close ones, this year they've gone the other way.

To answer your last sentence - he certainly gets more than two years. I'm not sure "lack of recruiting" is the issue - Shabazz looks like a steal, and Logan and Johnson have some potential too. Though I can't say the current recruiting class appears to be shaping up all that well.

As long as there are no off-court issues, I think you have to give Fox at least four years, probably five.

Fox has had one full recruiting season, I'm withholding judgment until the 2017-2018 season.

He really needs a impact PG and double double type post-player in this recruiting class though. Currently we have a nice SG coming in and a couple transfers that are eligible for next year. This recruiting class will likely determine if Fox is successful at App.

AppGrad78 wrote:

Goapps15 wrote:Another close loss. Does Fox not get any of the blame? I don't care who's fault it is, we should not be in last place. He's lost close game after close game.

Not from me. I know a good coach when I see one. Reminds me of Satterfield's first season. Fox will get things turned around.

What have you seen to believe that? I think he is an outstanding guy and a solid coach. But our program is so far down it will take a miracle for things to change.

I am not bashing him or quitting on him just asking a reasonable question. 6-20 and dead last in the conference is rough. It's reasonable as well to be frustrated with the results.

I appreciate the the answers. I was reluctant to even ask the question thinking I would get lambasted for even asking. I am 100% App supporter but being in the Sunbelt cellar is hard to stomach. I wish Coach Fox well and hope a turn around is near.

EastHallApp wrote:

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:

proasu89 wrote:

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:Three people commenting on this thread about the MBB game answers the other thread asking about why attendance is down.

A handful of us were actually at the game.

I'm not downing or questioning anyone's commitment to attend games, just simply pointing out that the majority have no interest.

I have interest, but what is there to say when you're 6-20? At some point it's hard to find much new to add after yet another loss.

We won't get the great recruits needed to win if the current teams play in front of an empty house. Something should be done earlier in the season to get more people attending. Show people that it's a fun event and atmosphere. Attendance has been an issue well before this dismal season.

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:

EastHallApp wrote:

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:

proasu89 wrote:

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:Three people commenting on this thread about the MBB game answers the other thread asking about why attendance is down.

A handful of us were actually at the game.

I'm not downing or questioning anyone's commitment to attend games, just simply pointing out that the majority have no interest.

I have interest, but what is there to say when you're 6-20? At some point it's hard to find much new to add after yet another loss.

We won't get the great recruits needed to win if the current teams play in front of an empty house. Something should be done earlier in the season to get more people attending. Show people that it's a fun event and atmosphere. Attendance has been an issue well before this dismal season.

I thought your comment was about the fact that not many people were commenting on this thread.