Ga State on a 18-3 run...Apps trail 24-15.

22-3 run...28-15

33-8 run...39-20

49 - 30 at the half. Grim!

Very, very painful to watch. We make everybody look like conference champions.

hapapp wrote:Very, very painful to watch. We make everybody look like conference champions.

I'll probably get gored like a slow, clumsy matador for this, but I think we may see Fox encourage some transfers and take a hard look at his coaching staff in the upcoming review of this season. He has to take some significant steps to redirect the sharp down-slope of the red line on the graph on Doug Gillin's wall.

Do you think we do a WCU football and go through 4 or 5 coach and each one coming in with promise but never seeing the number of wins improve.

I have a lot of faith in Fox but how does one get out of a mess like this?

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:Do you think we do a WCU football and go through 4 or 5 coach and each one coming in with promise but never seeing the number of wins improve.

I have a lot of faith in Fox but how does one get out of a mess like this?

My fear exactly.

Looking at how he played today, Eaves doesn't care. He's just trying to pad his stats.

I wish Lawson could play post defense after swatting a shot attempt into the fifth row.

Obacha is actually a good defender and rebounder by good grief he can't play offense.

Babic has fallen off the face of the earth this season. Same with Clarke.

Burgess is still short.

But yes, this goes beyond just the players. The coaching has to shoulder this.

Maybe I'm too simple but, defense can be played without truckloads of talent... Lots of hustle, grit, effort and determination can show up in the stat column. I'm just not seeing all of the above from this bunch.

Fox has a team trip to Europe planned for the summer...to Italy and Slovenia. That's a marvelous recruitment tool and a marvelous chemistry-building tool, but he's got his work cut out for him before any travel plans are finalized. He needs to make certain he has the right group of players and the right coaches in place to form next years team. There's no room for dead weight beginning next weekend and going forward.

Fox needs meet one-on-one with each player who is eligible to return. He also needs to meet one-on-one with each assistant coach. He has more than one returning scholarship player that has failed to show Division I capability. I'm of the opinion that he may also have a coach or two whose skills are also sub-par. Cutting a few folks won't be easy; but he'd better bite the bullet now and fix it. He worked at DC with McKillop long enough to know how to give players and coaches an honest appraisal and help them move along to a place where they have a better chance to be successful.

Fox's team is dangerously near the so-called "death spiral." Significant change is required. It has to start with Coach Fox; and it has to start pronto.

How does letting a scholly player go, if that were to happen, effect APR? Is APR dependent on all of the team, scholly or not?

This team will be better losing its best scorer. We must find players that can facilitate offense and a scorer in the post. This offseason will determine Fox's fate. Pulling very hard for him!


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We need to find some folks who can play defense. We put up enough points to win far more than we did this year...we simply couldn't stop anyone.

asu66 wrote:Fox has a team trip to Europe planned for the summer...to Italy and Slovenia. That's a marvelous recruitment tool and a marvelous chemistry-building tool, but he's got his work cut out for him before any travel plans are finalized. He needs to make certain he has the right group of players and the right coaches in place to form next years team. There's no room for dead weight beginning next weekend and going forward.

Fox needs meet one-on-one with each player who is eligible to return. He also needs to meet one-on-one with each assistant coach. He has more than one returning scholarship player that has failed to show Division I capability. I'm of the opinion that he may also have a coach or two whose skills are also sub-par. Cutting a few folks won't be easy; but he'd better bite the bullet now and fix it. He worked at DC with McKillop long enough to know how to give players and coaches an honest appraisal and help them move along to a place where they have a better chance to be successful.

Fox's team is dangerously near the so-called "death spiral." Significant change is required. It has to start with Coach Fox; and it has to start pronto.

How does a trip like that get paid for?

Money games like Texas and North Carolina. I know we got a sweethart deal from Texas because Rick Barnes was still the coach when it was originally scheduled.

T-Dog wrote:Money games like Texas and North Carolina. I know we got a sweethart deal from Texas because Rick Barnes was still the coach when it was originally scheduled.

So it just comes out of the athletic budget. Guess we are doing better than I thought. Good deal.

I would image Private donations are also used.

Fox has to convince/recruit some talent with a "Why not in Boone?"attitude. Part of that is finding a point guard who gives a flip and has more assists than turnovers.

bcoach wrote:

asu66 wrote:Fox has a team trip to Europe planned for the summer...to Italy and Slovenia. That's a marvelous recruitment tool and a marvelous chemistry-building tool, but he's got his work cut out for him before any travel plans are finalized. He needs to make certain he has the right group of players and the right coaches in place to form next years team. There's no room for dead weight beginning next weekend and going forward.

Fox needs meet one-on-one with each player who is eligible to return. He also needs to meet one-on-one with each assistant coach. He has more than one returning scholarship player that has failed to show Division I capability. I'm of the opinion that he may also have a coach or two whose skills are also sub-par. Cutting a few folks won't be easy; but he'd better bite the bullet now and fix it. He worked at DC with McKillop long enough to know how to give players and coaches an honest appraisal and help them move along to a place where they have a better chance to be successful.

Fox's team is dangerously near the so-called "death spiral." Significant change is required. It has to start with Coach Fox; and it has to start pronto.

How does a trip like that get paid for?

The NCAA allows collegiate teams to go on summer trips like this once every four years. There are tour companies that specialize in making most of the travel, lodging, meal, sightseeing excursion, team practice, exhibition game schedules and other necessary arrangements. In a case like with Coach Fox, he's been on several tours like this with Davidson, so he knows where to turn to get sponsorship assistance and he's developed friendships with English-speaking families in Italy who'll take his team in and treat them just like family. They live like the locals live and eat where the locals eat.

One of the real basketball advantages is that teams going on these junkets get ten extra days of practice sanctioned by the NCAA before they depart from stateside. That provides a real opportunity to blend freshmen, transfers and new coaches into the fold; get to participate in an exceptional cultural opportunity and get to play against tough, international competition.