The Carolina Way!

[AppGrad1]

I'm still waiting on links from different posters saying I defended unc from their actions and where I supposedly said a professor had an ax to grind.

Waiting,
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[Black Saturday]

I think I may have attended APP during the same time as AppGrad1? He was the student that always wore the UNC gear everywhere.

[ASUMountaineer]

These guys say Hello...
Tyler Zeller = Academic All American of the Year for 2 Years.
Marcus Paige = 2nd Team Academic All American.

Your turn now...

No way....two kids on a basketball team that appear to actually be there for education as well as sports. Pinch me....im dreaming. I am truly proud that the flagship has two kids over the past 6 years of the program that care about their education. SMH

Your hatred shines if you believe that...

UNC is and always will be a great institution of higher learning. But it is painfully clear that many of the tar heel athletes are not having to subscribe to standard academic practices many UNC alums had to work so hard to attain. Are there more than two kids doing it the right way? Of course, it is just hysterical that you will find any reason to defend them at all costs. When the news about my childhood team Miami(the U) came I out I was able to easily separate myself from being a fan and realize just how egregious the program had become. You have not been able to do any such thing. Making excuses for McCants, saying the professor had an ax to grind. Just man up and admit they F'ed up and move on with your baby blue glasses on. If State or Duke had the identical situation I feel you would be on board with the rest of us in condemning the actions of what appears to be many.

Did I state "A Professor had an ax to grind?"
If I did I have no idea why I would say such a thing?
Please link where I said that and I will stand corrected....

PS. If you go back and look at past post you will easily see that I've said if UNC did what is being said I have no problems with what the NCAA does. How many times do I have to repeat this?
I've NOT defended them.
Maybe what Mccants said was true but there is NO one on this universe that won't say he is a nut job. He is not a reliable source to base things that Roy knew all this. All the previous players stated the opposite of what he said.
This is not "defending" UNC. It is saying give me a more reliable source before I'll believe it really happened. Not the fake classes but about Roy knowing all this happened...

<cough> <cough> Jose Canseco <cough>

[ASUMountaineer]

This guy

Tell me what you want done?
Burning the school and shutting down the program still will not satisfy you or others.

I've stated that I don't mind what the NCAA does. I'm good with it.
If they ban the program I'm good with it because I figure they found things that warranted it.
If they do nothing I'm good with it because they know more than us fans and I figure it warranted it.

What is so "This guy" wrong with this?
You haters are the "This guy" in this. Burning the school down is all that would make you happy and you roll your eyes at me???? lol That is pure hatred there.

How about at least a one-year postseason ban like we have to serve for a lower-than-acceptable APR. Unlike UNC, we have to pay for our players not going to/performing well in class.

[ASUMountaineer]

I'll tell you what kind of stumps me. In other posts I keep reading over and over how we so desperately want to play them. Why? That is absolutely the second from last campus I ever want to enter and I sure don't want them to dirty up Boone.

Great post, coach!

[bcoach]

I'll tell you what kind of stumps me. In other posts I keep reading over and over how we so desperately want to play them. Why? That is absolutely the second from last campus I ever want to enter and I sure don't want them to dirty up Boone.

Great post, coach!

Thank yooo Thank yoooo very much

[JTApps1]

I'm still waiting on links from different posters saying I defended unc from their actions and where I supposedly said a professor had an ax to grind.

Waiting,
Waiting,
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You say McCants isn't a reliable source, but what about his official transcript from UNC-CH? He was failing most of his real classes then suddenly he takes the A-A classes and makes Dean's List. There are reports showing a number of other basketball players took the same classes, and not a single one of them made less than a B. Some of them dropped other majors because they actually had to go to class. The basketball staff and tutors knew these players couldn't last in real classes so they put them in this program. You may be ok with whatever punishment the NCAA gives, but that's only because there is no way to defend the program. Being ok with them not getting punished shows your true baby blue colors. If App was caught doing this I'd want everyone involved removed from the school and all of their records thrown out. Everyone with ties to UNC-CH should demand answers from Roy and Co.

[ASUPATCH]

I think I may have attended APP during the same time as AppGrad1? He was the student that always wore the UNC gear everywhere.

Sorry guys.....cant make it to varsity gym tonight, UNC is playing Campbell on ESPN.

[AppGrad1]

I'm still waiting on links from different posters saying I defended unc from their actions and where I supposedly said a professor had an ax to grind.

Waiting,
Waiting,
Waiting,
...

You say McCants isn't a reliable source, but what about his official transcript from UNC-CH? He was failing most of his real classes then suddenly he takes the A-A classes and makes Dean's List. There are reports showing a number of other basketball players took the same classes, and not a single one of them made less than a B. Some of them dropped other majors because they actually had to go to class. The basketball staff and tutors knew these players couldn't last in real classes so they put them in this program. You may be ok with whatever punishment the NCAA gives, but that's only because there is no way to defend the program. Being ok with them not getting punished shows your true baby blue colors. If App was caught doing this I'd want everyone involved removed from the school and all of their records thrown out. Everyone with ties to UNC-CH should demand answers from Roy and Co.

It is my understanding the A classes you are talking about came in the semester that he announced he was going pro and it was not going to matter what he made anyway. That's what I've heard.

I agree that I'd they find evidence they should be punished but there is literally no one that says he's reliable at all.

[AppGrad1]

No way....two kids on a basketball team that appear to actually be there for education as well as sports. Pinch me....im dreaming. I am truly proud that the flagship has two kids over the past 6 years of the program that care about their education. SMH[/quote]

UNC is and always will be a great institution of higher learning. But it is painfully clear that many of the tar heel athletes are not having to subscribe to standard academic practices many UNC alums had to work so hard to attain. Are there more than two kids doing it the right way? Of course, it is just hysterical that you will find any reason to defend them at all costs. When the news about my childhood team Miami(the U) came I out I was able to easily separate myself from being a fan and realize just how egregious the program had become. You have not been able to do any such thing. Making excuses for McCants, saying the professor had an ax to grind. Just man up and admit they F'ed up and move on with your baby blue glasses on. If State or Duke had the identical situation I feel you would be on board with the rest of us in condemning the actions of what appears to be many.[/quote]


Did I state "A Professor had an ax to grind?"
If I did I have no idea why I would say such a thing?
Please link where I said that and I will stand corrected....

PS. If you go back and look at past post you will easily see that I've said if UNC did what is being said I have no problems with what the NCAA does. How many times do I have to repeat this?
I've NOT defended them.
Maybe what Mccants said was true but there is NO one on this universe that won't say he is a nut job. He is not a reliable source to base things that Roy knew all this. All the previous players stated the opposite of what he said.
This is not "defending" UNC. It is saying give me a more reliable source before I'll believe it really happened. Not the fake classes but about Roy knowing all this happened...[/quote]

<cough> <cough> Jose Canseco <cough>[/quote]


Huh?

[ASUPATCH]

I'm still waiting on links from different posters saying I defended unc from their actions and where I supposedly said a professor had an ax to grind.

Waiting,
Waiting,
Waiting,
...

You say McCants isn't a reliable source, but what about his official transcript from UNC-CH? He was failing most of his real classes then suddenly he takes the A-A classes and makes Dean's List. There are reports showing a number of other basketball players took the same classes, and not a single one of them made less than a B. Some of them dropped other majors because they actually had to go to class. The basketball staff and tutors knew these players couldn't last in real classes so they put them in this program. You may be ok with whatever punishment the NCAA gives, but that's only because there is no way to defend the program. Being ok with them not getting punished shows your true baby blue colors. If App was caught doing this I'd want everyone involved removed from the school and all of their records thrown out. Everyone with ties to UNC-CH should demand answers from Roy and Co.

It is my understanding the A classes you are talking about came in the semester that he announced he was going pro and it was not going to matter what he made anyway. That's what I've heard.

I agree that I'd they find evidence they should be punished but there is literally no one that says he's reliable at all.

How about the line of former tar heels saying this. We are now at 1porfessor and at least 4 athletes. Are they all not reliable. I bet you would find them pretty damn reliable sources in Raleigh or Durham, but why not Chapel Hill? Oh yeah the Carolina blue glass wont let the light in.

[Gonzo]

I think I may have attended APP during the same time as AppGrad1? He was the student that always wore the UNC gear everywhere.

Sorry guys.....cant make it to varsity gym tonight, UNC is playing Campbell on ESPN.

Yeah.

Sorry. Can't go to the App game. We're playing State tonight at the Dean Dome.

[appbud]

My daughter just graduated from UNC - Major in Chemistry - Biochem track and minor in Biology. I asked her why she never found any of those classes that you don't have to attend. Don't hate on us for her going to UNC, my son is in Grad School at App and my wife and I both graduated from App.

[ASUMountaineer]

I'm still waiting on links from different posters saying I defended unc from their actions and where I supposedly said a professor had an ax to grind.

Waiting,
Waiting,
Waiting,
...

You say McCants isn't a reliable source, but what about his official transcript from UNC-CH? He was failing most of his real classes then suddenly he takes the A-A classes and makes Dean's List. There are reports showing a number of other basketball players took the same classes, and not a single one of them made less than a B. Some of them dropped other majors because they actually had to go to class. The basketball staff and tutors knew these players couldn't last in real classes so they put them in this program. You may be ok with whatever punishment the NCAA gives, but that's only because there is no way to defend the program. Being ok with them not getting punished shows your true baby blue colors. If App was caught doing this I'd want everyone involved removed from the school and all of their records thrown out. Everyone with ties to UNC-CH should demand answers from Roy and Co.

It is my understanding the A classes you are talking about came in the semester that he announced he was going pro and it was not going to matter what he made anyway. That's what I've heard.

I agree that I'd they find evidence they should be punished but there is literally no one that says he's reliable at all.

How does that matter?

[Appsolutley]

"He is not a reliable source to base things that Roy knew all this."

If he knew it, he's dirty.
If he didn't know it, he's incompetent.

[ASUMountaineer]

Did I state "A Professor had an ax to grind?"
If I did I have no idea why I would say such a thing?
Please link where I said that and I will stand corrected....

PS. If you go back and look at past post you will easily see that I've said if UNC did what is being said I have no problems with what the NCAA does. How many times do I have to repeat this?
I've NOT defended them.
Maybe what Mccants said was true but there is NO one on this universe that won't say he is a nut job. He is not a reliable source to base things that Roy knew all this. All the previous players stated the opposite of what he said.
This is not "defending" UNC. It is saying give me a more reliable source before I'll believe it really happened. Not the fake classes but about Roy knowing all this happened...

<cough> <cough> Jose Canseco <cough>

Huh?

Seemed quite obvious, but here goes...

You refuse to believe McCants because he is not "reliable." Jose Canseco had MAJOR credibility issues, and at the time he made his allegations (and wrote a book), was considered "not reliable." However, his allegations not only proved to be true, but the tip of the iceberg.

A-Roid denied he used PED's.
Palmero denied he used PED's.
McGuire denied he used PED's.

All three were proven liars, and Canseco was vindicated. The point of my post is to quit looking to discredit McCants and focus on the allegations. Personally, I think his allegations are more reliable than the sham "investigation" UNC likes to trumpet.

[firemoose]

I'm still waiting on links from different posters saying I defended unc from their actions and where I supposedly said a professor had an ax to grind.

Waiting,
Waiting,
Waiting,
...

You say McCants isn't a reliable source, but what about his official transcript from UNC-CH? He was failing most of his real classes then suddenly he takes the A-A classes and makes Dean's List. There are reports showing a number of other basketball players took the same classes, and not a single one of them made less than a B. Some of them dropped other majors because they actually had to go to class. The basketball staff and tutors knew these players couldn't last in real classes so they put them in this program. You may be ok with whatever punishment the NCAA gives, but that's only because there is no way to defend the program. Being ok with them not getting punished shows your true baby blue colors. If App was caught doing this I'd want everyone involved removed from the school and all of their records thrown out. Everyone with ties to UNC-CH should demand answers from Roy and Co.

It is my understanding the A classes you are talking about came in the semester that he announced he was going pro and it was not going to matter what he made anyway. That's what I've heard.

I agree that I'd they find evidence they should be punished but there is literally no one that says he's reliable at all.

I've stayed out of this discussion but this last statement is beyond the pale. I'm sorry AppGrad1 but the bolded statement is one of the dumbest things I've seen yet. The fact that he made the Dean's List is not in question. All you have to do is go to:

http://registrar.unc.edu/reports/deans- ... ient-list/

You can click on the link for Dean's List-Fall 2001-Spring 2010 and there it is. But you say that because he was going pro it was not going to matter what he made anyway? How does that matter? Are you saying that because he was leaving it was ok for bogus grades to be given? I'll bet the students that legitimately made the list would beg to differ.

So I have a simple yes or no question for you. It doesn't require the first draft of the Magna Carta to answer. Again, simple yes or no. Do you believe that the grades that McCants received that allowed him to make the Dean's List were legitimate?

[Longrifle28]

I'm still waiting on links from different posters saying I defended unc from their actions and where I supposedly said a professor had an ax to grind.

Waiting,
Waiting,
Waiting,
...

You say McCants isn't a reliable source, but what about his official transcript from UNC-CH? He was failing most of his real classes then suddenly he takes the A-A classes and makes Dean's List. There are reports showing a number of other basketball players took the same classes, and not a single one of them made less than a B. Some of them dropped other majors because they actually had to go to class. The basketball staff and tutors knew these players couldn't last in real classes so they put them in this program. You may be ok with whatever punishment the NCAA gives, but that's only because there is no way to defend the program. Being ok with them not getting punished shows your true baby blue colors. If App was caught doing this I'd want everyone involved removed from the school and all of their records thrown out. Everyone with ties to UNC-CH should demand answers from Roy and Co.

It is my understanding the A classes you are talking about came in the semester that he announced he was going pro and it was not going to matter what he made anyway. That's what I've heard.

I agree that I'd they find evidence they should be punished but there is literally no one that says he's reliable at all.

Actually at the time he was scheduled for the classes he had not announced. And it would matter even later on because it would affect the schools APR-you know the very thing that App got penalized for.

[TheMoody1]

Me thinks Appgrad1 is having a good time.

[ASUPATCH]

Me thinks Appgrad1 is having a good time.

This depicts him fishing much more accurately.