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Re: The Carolina Way!

Unread post by ASUPATCH » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:24 am

The Raleigh (N.C.) News & Observer reported Saturday evening that McCants was not the only member of the 2005 team who relied on the bogus classes. The newspaper said that data it had obtained shows that "five members of that team, including at least four key players, accounted for a combined 39 enrollments in classes that have been identified as confirmed or suspected lecture classes that never met." No player earned less than a B in any of the enrollments, according to the report.

This is probably the most damning part. If I had nothing to hide I would gladly show people my transcripts.
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Unread post by Appsolutley » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:26 am

Tired of talking about the UNCheat basketball program. Let's switch topics:
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Unread post by NewApp » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:21 pm

ASUPATCH wrote:The Raleigh (N.C.) News & Observer reported Saturday evening that McCants was not the only member of the 2005 team who relied on the bogus classes. The newspaper said that data it had obtained shows that "five members of that team, including at least four key players, accounted for a combined 39 enrollments in classes that have been identified as confirmed or suspected lecture classes that never met." No player earned less than a B in any of the enrollments, according to the report.

This is probably the most damning part. If I had nothing to hide I would gladly show people my transcripts.
And Roy "Pristine" Williams said he knew nothing about any of this. He has only, what, 20 or so players to look after and also has a couple of assistants to aid. . Is he kidding, uninformed, or lying? :?:
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Unread post by NewApp » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:24 pm

Appsolutley wrote:Tired of talking about the UNCheat basketball program. Let's switch topics:

That is bogus, because those UNC cheating jocks couldn't read that high of a vocabulary in a Dr Suess book. It's about 5 grades above their level.
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Unread post by 8993 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:56 pm

McCants has responded to what Roy Williams said last week.

One thing stood out to me during his interview: "Show the transcripts." If the 16 players who signed that letter have nothing to hide, let's see those transcripts!

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Unread post by 24AppState » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:04 pm

Well, it appears this has died down as expected. I'm sure in a few weeks the last few bits of it will be completely swept under the rug. It's unbelievable and disgusting what these guys get away with.

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Unread post by asu66 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:26 pm

NewApp wrote:
ASUPATCH wrote:The Raleigh (N.C.) News & Observer reported Saturday evening that McCants was not the only member of the 2005 team who relied on the bogus classes. The newspaper said that data it had obtained shows that "five members of that team, including at least four key players, accounted for a combined 39 enrollments in classes that have been identified as confirmed or suspected lecture classes that never met." No player earned less than a B in any of the enrollments, according to the report.

This is probably the most damning part. If I had nothing to hide I would gladly show people my transcripts.
And Roy "Pristine" Williams said he knew nothing about any of this. He has only, what, 20 or so players to look after and also has a couple of assistants to aid. . Is he kidding, uninformed, or lying? :?:
None of the alleged cheating could have occurred without the direct knowledge and probably the direct participation of this guy. And he has the title to make it a priority to keep his superiors in the loop...superiors like RoyBoy and the AD.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:32 pm

Here they come again ---


NCAA will re-open academic fraud investigation at North Carolina

By Matt Norlander | College Basketball Writer

June 30, 2014 3:34 pm ET

The University of North Carolina has announced the NCAA is coming back to campus and effectively re-opening a 2011 investigation into academic impropriety involving former student-athletes at the school. The investigation, which vaguely wrapped up more than two years ago, vaguely without any penalty from the NCAA toward UNC, stems from possible nefarious activity between former professors and student-athletes that is alleged to have occurred over the past 15 years.

Reports have shown no-show courses, phony grades and classes requiring only one end-of-term paper to be consistent over a period of time in previous years at the university. The former at the center of the controversy -- head of the Afro and African-American studies department, Dr. Julius Nyang'oro -- resigned in September of 2011.

A former tutor, Mary Willingham, has gone on record against former academic practices with UNC athletes. Emails suggesting benefits of tickets and invites to watch football games from the sidelines have also stained the academic reputation of the school in recent years.

Why is this happening now? Because the NCAA believes it can gather more evidence in the case thanks to those who are now supposedly willing to speak. That wasn't the case in 2011 or 2012.

The statement in full via UNC athletic director Bubba Cunningham:

"The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill has received a verbal notice of inquiry from the NCAA that it will repoen its 2011 examination of academic irregularities. The NCAA has determined that additional people with information and others who were previously uncooperative might now be willing to speak with the enforcement staff.

Since 2011, the university has conducted and commissioned numerous reviews of this matter and provided the NCAA with updates. In February, the university retained former federal prosecutor Kenneth Wainstein to conduct an independent investigation and instructed him to share relevant information directly and confidentially with the NCAA.

The university has instituted numerous academic reforms based on findings from earlier reports that an be found at http://carolinacommitment.unc.edu/. We remain committed to learning from our past so that we can move forward to building a stronger university.

Consistent with NCAA protocols, we will have no further comment on this matter until the process is complete."
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Unread post by bcoach » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:40 pm

Maybe tis will not go away after all.

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Unread post by moehler » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:54 pm

I think 2 things have happen since the last investigation, 1st, as the NCAA stated, new evidence might be forth coming from people finally willing to talk. 2nd, I think its possible, or even likely, that the NCAA, stood in the shadows, watching how the State investigation went, and when they realized that it was a sham investigation, where the lead investigator in charge, had direct ties to Carolina, they decided to reopen the case. I commend the NCAA, I don't know if anything will become of this, are they really serious about finding out the truth and if Carolina is found guilty, administrating more punishment, or is this just a shame investigation, being done because of pressure being put on them to do something, anything. I guess we will find out.

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I've got no problems in reopening this thing.
If new stuff is found out put the hammer down.
I've always said this...

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Unread post by 8993 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:11 pm

AppGrad1 wrote:I've got no problems in reopening this thing.
If new stuff is found out put the hammer down.
I've always said this...
I'm so glad the NCAA has your stamp of approval.

They should've gotten reprimanded the first go around, but when you hire a UNC grad to investigate a UNC scandal, the amount of corruption that will be allowed through is UNControllable.

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Unread post by AppGrad1 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:22 pm

8993 wrote:
AppGrad1 wrote:I've got no problems in reopening this thing.
If new stuff is found out put the hammer down.
I've always said this...
I'm so glad the NCAA has your stamp of approval.

They should've gotten reprimanded the first go around, but when you hire a UNC grad to investigate a UNC scandal, the amount of corruption that will be allowed through is UNControllable.

I'm sure you are ALL KNOWING of all the facts that the ncaa has on the case up to date don't you?
Maybe you had more info than them. You should have set up a meeting to discuss it with them or was you info derived from message board hate?

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Unread post by moehler » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:29 pm

so.. your okay with player, after player after player coming forth with their stories, a proven fact that there were bogus classes over many years to keep athletes eligible, and the lead investigator for the state, a tarheel grad, but yet were the bad guys for discussing it on this board, and giving our opinions? Hey, I admit it, Im taking some pleasure from this turn of events, especially after the good people in Chapel Hill successfully interfered and imposed their will thru the years on our University. Hell, I will even admit it I have alittle jealously for everything that is given to them, while we have to scratch and beg just to get our fair share, on this matter I have absolutely no sympathy for the Heels, Karma is a bitch sometimes.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:14 am

And now they have even more problems on the horizon - serious concerns ---

Sixty-four colleges and universities are under federal investigation over concerns about how they handled sexual assault cases on campus.

The U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights began disclosing all colleges under review for their handling of sexual assault cases following a White House task force on campus rape. The Department of Education faced pressure from activists and members of Congress for greater transparency, as colleges typically refrained from discussing or disclosing their federal investigations unless asked about them.

Among those listed ---
- University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill -- 3/1/2013
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Unread post by AppGrad1 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:13 am

moehler wrote:so.. your okay with player, after player after player coming forth with their stories, a proven fact that there were bogus classes over many years to keep athletes eligible, and the lead investigator for the state, a tarheel grad, but yet were the bad guys for discussing it on this board, and giving our opinions? Hey, I admit it, Im taking some pleasure from this turn of events, especially after the good people in Chapel Hill successfully interfered and imposed their will thru the years on our University. Hell, I will even admit it I have alittle jealously for everything that is given to them, while we have to scratch and beg just to get our fair share, on this matter I have absolutely no sympathy for the Heels, Karma is a bitch sometimes.

Not sure what you are saying.
Never said you can't discuss the situation.
I replied to a sarcastic remark. Noticed you didn't respond to the sarcastic remark just mine. My first comment was totally in line supporting anything the ncaa does and yet I still get hammered.

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Unread post by moehler » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:23 am

little confused here, the way I read your statement, and the tone suggested that you were against this board discussing in a negative way, the turn of events in Chapel Hill, maybe I'm off base here, but you complain about getting hammered on this board for your statement, but yet that exactly what you did in your original post, I mean if your going to make negative statements to members of the board, you cant expect it to be ignored and not have someone respond if they disagree with you.

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Unread post by AppGrad1 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:04 am

moehler wrote:little confused here, the way I read your statement, and the tone suggested that you were against this board discussing in a negative way, the turn of events in Chapel Hill, maybe I'm off base here, but you complain about getting hammered on this board for your statement, but yet that exactly what you did in your original post, I mean if your going to make negative statements to members of the board, you cant expect it to be ignored and not have someone respond if they disagree with you.

Did you comment to those who made super negative comments to me and name called for my comments on a message board?

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Unread post by bcoach » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:09 am

In the eyes of the rest of the country this reflects badly on the state of NC. I am glad that the NCAA seems to be taking this seriously but sad that it puts NC in a bad light.

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