Terror at Boston Marathon Finish Line; Several Dead

[AppinVA]

Here is something from across the pond. I generally like what he has to say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -reactions

I'll just say I disagree vehemently with 90% of that.

Ninety percent...That's being generous by about 10 percent.

[goapps93]

Here is something from across the pond. I generally like what he has to say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -reactions

Are you serious? Does he generally espouse the same opinion that he shares in this piece?

Gee, I never really considered the strategic attacks of our military on known terrorists and killers to be terrorism itself. Maybe because it's ridiculous to think that. I don't remember any reports of our military using homemade pressure cooker bombs to kill and mame random citizens on a sidewalk, much less with no known strategic target on said sidewalk.

[T-Dog]

His quote was "You guys are a little nuts. Here we are running and yelling away from the fire and here come you guys running and yelling towards the fire". Here's to being a little nuts.

One of my co-workers, ex-marine, said something very similar. Basically "We were taught to run toward the gunfire and did just that so we weren't exactly the smartest people."

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Here is something from across the pond. I generally like what he has to say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -reactions

Are you serious? Does he generally espouse the same opinion that he shares in this piece?

Gee, I never really considered the strategic attacks of our military on known terrorists and killers to be terrorism itself. Maybe because it's ridiculous to think that. I don't remember any reports of our military using homemade pressure cooker bombs to kill and mame random citizens on a sidewalk, much less with no known strategic target on said sidewalk.

We do use drones. How many have died in Iraq that had nothing to do with aiming a gun or weapon or really in any way doing anything except living in Iraq that died? Same for Afghanistan. That is just two countries.

The three (and I would think it will be higher soon given pics and reports I have read) did not deserve to die in Boston. You don't think some of our actions as a country have not done the same in other countries, and I am thinking just in the last decade.

[HeffnerIV]

Here is something from across the pond. I generally like what he has to say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -reactions

Are you serious? Does he generally espouse the same opinion that he shares in this piece?

Gee, I never really considered the strategic attacks of our military on known terrorists and killers to be terrorism itself. Maybe because it's ridiculous to think that. I don't remember any reports of our military using homemade pressure cooker bombs to kill and mame random citizens on a sidewalk, much less with no known strategic target on said sidewalk.

We do use drones. How many have died in Iraq that had nothing to do with aiming a gun or weapon or really in any way doing anything except living in Iraq that died? Same for Afghanistan. That is just two countries.

The three (and I would think it will be higher soon given pics and reports I have read) did not deserve to die in Boston. You don't think some of our actions as a country have not done the same in other countries, and I am thinking just in the last decade.

I think their point is that we're not targeting the innocent. But yes, there have been civilians who've suffered from our attacks. Unfortunately, our targets tend to surround themselves with those they know we're trying to avoid striking.

[hapapp]

Here is something from across the pond. I generally like what he has to say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -reactions

Are you serious? Does he generally espouse the same opinion that he shares in this piece?

Gee, I never really considered the strategic attacks of our military on known terrorists and killers to be terrorism itself. Maybe because it's ridiculous to think that. I don't remember any reports of our military using homemade pressure cooker bombs to kill and mame random citizens on a sidewalk, much less with no known strategic target on said sidewalk.

We do use drones. How many have died in Iraq that had nothing to do with aiming a gun or weapon or really in any way doing anything except living in Iraq that died? Same for Afghanistan. That is just two countries.

The three (and I would think it will be higher soon given pics and reports I have read) did not deserve to die in Boston. You don't think some of our actions as a country have not done the same in other countries, and I am thinking just in the last decade.

I think their point is that we're not targeting the innocent. But yes, there have been civilians who've suffered from our attacks. Unfortunately, our targets tend to surround themselves with those they know we're trying to avoid striking.

Though it doesn't mean the loss of innocent life is any less tragic. Whether we wish to admit it or not, much of our activity in the world (not saying it is all unjustified) creates similar reactions to what we are all experiencing with the Boston tragedy.

[3rd]

Something we should look at is what was going on in these countries before we got in their? has it changed? Not really no.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Here is something from across the pond. I generally like what he has to say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -reactions

Are you serious? Does he generally espouse the same opinion that he shares in this piece?

Gee, I never really considered the strategic attacks of our military on known terrorists and killers to be terrorism itself. Maybe because it's ridiculous to think that. I don't remember any reports of our military using homemade pressure cooker bombs to kill and mame random citizens on a sidewalk, much less with no known strategic target on said sidewalk.

We do use drones. How many have died in Iraq that had nothing to do with aiming a gun or weapon or really in any way doing anything except living in Iraq that died? Same for Afghanistan. That is just two countries.

The three (and I would think it will be higher soon given pics and reports I have read) did not deserve to die in Boston. You don't think some of our actions as a country have not done the same in other countries, and I am thinking just in the last decade.

I think their point is that we're not targeting the innocent. But yes, there have been civilians who've suffered from our attacks. Unfortunately, our targets tend to surround themselves with those they know we're trying to avoid striking.

I am not so sure we can say that we are not targeting innocents given the numbers of innocent death is what it is. It is much more than a few here or there. And even if the ones we are going after (justified or not) are surrounding themselves with innocent people and we still decide to go after out targets KNOWING it will kill innocent people, then we have killed innocent people. Calling it "collateral damage" doesn't make it any less tragic if you are on the side of the deaths and the anger I doubt would be any less. The mere fact we have that euphemism should tell us maybe the very action is not moral and worthy.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Here is something from across the pond. I generally like what he has to say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -reactions

Are you serious? Does he generally espouse the same opinion that he shares in this piece?

Gee, I never really considered the strategic attacks of our military on known terrorists and killers to be terrorism itself. Maybe because it's ridiculous to think that. I don't remember any reports of our military using homemade pressure cooker bombs to kill and mame random citizens on a sidewalk, much less with no known strategic target on said sidewalk.

Have you bothered to follow any of the Bradley Manning news? Maybe not with pressure cookers, but with other tools that are also lethal.

[goapps93]

Here is something from across the pond. I generally like what he has to say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -reactions

Are you serious? Does he generally espouse the same opinion that he shares in this piece?

Gee, I never really considered the strategic attacks of our military on known terrorists and killers to be terrorism itself. Maybe because it's ridiculous to think that. I don't remember any reports of our military using homemade pressure cooker bombs to kill and mame random citizens on a sidewalk, much less with no known strategic target on said sidewalk.

We do use drones. How many have died in Iraq that had nothing to do with aiming a gun or weapon or really in any way doing anything except living in Iraq that died? Same for Afghanistan. That is just two countries.

The three (and I would think it will be higher soon given pics and reports I have read) did not deserve to die in Boston. You don't think some of our actions as a country have not done the same in other countries, and I am thinking just in the last decade.

I think their point is that we're not targeting the innocent. But yes, there have been civilians who've suffered from our attacks. Unfortunately, our targets tend to surround themselves with those they know we're trying to avoid striking.

I am not so sure we can say that we are not targeting innocents given the numbers of innocent death is what it is. It is much more than a few here or there. And even if the ones we are going after (justified or not) are surrounding themselves with innocent people and we still decide to go after out targets KNOWING it will kill innocent people, then we have killed innocent people. Calling it "collateral damage" doesn't make it any less tragic if you are on the side of the deaths and the anger I doubt would be any less. The mere fact we have that euphemism should tell us maybe the very action is not moral and worthy.

I will agree that the killing of innocents is never a good thing but to compare what happened in Boston when the target was nothing but innocent people to strategic strikes that involve innocent bystanders is not a valid comparison. I also agree that America has done things that make our enemies mad. That comes with them being our enemies. Point is that there is evil in this world and yes, I guess it depends on what side you are on to determine which is side is evil. This was an evil deed and was not deserved no matter which side one is on.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

>This was an evil deed and was not deserved no matter which side one is on.

I agree, and I don't know if you read the article that I posted a link on. The author says the same thing a few times in the article. I am certainly not clicking my heels over what happened in Boston. It is sad and tragic. I just wish many of us in this country would extend the anger/sadness/shock/horror into a bit more that would prevent this around the world, especially when it is done by our own gov't, and had been for many decades directly or through our surrogates in some cases.

[HeffnerIV]

>This was an evil deed and was not deserved no matter which side one is on.

I agree, and I don't know if you read the article that I posted a link on. The author says the same thing a few times in the article. I am certainly not clicking my heels over what happened in Boston. It is sad and tragic. I just wish many of us in this country would extend the anger/sadness/shock/horror into a bit more that would prevent this around the world, especially when it is done by our own gov't, and had been for many decades directly or through our surrogates in some cases.

Hey Jack, I say we pull out almost all our military resources abroad, stop the foreign aid, and focus on our own problems here at home. Not isolation, but non-intervention, as us Libertarians like to say.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

>This was an evil deed and was not deserved no matter which side one is on.

I agree, and I don't know if you read the article that I posted a link on. The author says the same thing a few times in the article. I am certainly not clicking my heels over what happened in Boston. It is sad and tragic. I just wish many of us in this country would extend the anger/sadness/shock/horror into a bit more that would prevent this around the world, especially when it is done by our own gov't, and had been for many decades directly or through our surrogates in some cases.

Hey Jack, I say we pull out almost all our military resources abroad, stop the foreign aid, and focus on our own problems here at home. Not isolation, but non-intervention, as us Libertarians like to say.

I certainly would like to see us reduce the size of our empire footprint around the world. Scale back to zero the newer installations quickly. The post WWII stuff in Germany and Japan and other places a bit slower to give those areas a chance to adapt to the changes in their local economy. I would not want to end foreign aid. We can build goodwill and friendly relations with appropriate work in this area. I would want to look into foreign aid in more detail, some of our aid is not really that.

[HeffnerIV]

>This was an evil deed and was not deserved no matter which side one is on.

I agree, and I don't know if you read the article that I posted a link on. The author says the same thing a few times in the article. I am certainly not clicking my heels over what happened in Boston. It is sad and tragic. I just wish many of us in this country would extend the anger/sadness/shock/horror into a bit more that would prevent this around the world, especially when it is done by our own gov't, and had been for many decades directly or through our surrogates in some cases.

Hey Jack, I say we pull out almost all our military resources abroad, stop the foreign aid, and focus on our own problems here at home. Not isolation, but non-intervention, as us Libertarians like to say.

I certainly would like to see us reduce the size of our empire footprint around the world. Scale back to zero the newer installations quickly. The post WWII stuff in Germany and Japan and other places a bit slower to give those areas a chance to adapt to the changes in their local economy. I would not want to end foreign aid. We can build goodwill and friendly relations with appropriate work in this area. I would want to look into foreign aid in more detail, some of our aid is not really that.

I can understand your point, but the problem with selective monetary aid is that the enemies of our 'allies' see our aid as an endorsement if their enemy's agenda. Plus, what's the point of our aid? And is this not a form of international welfare? There is also evidence that our aid manipulates or stifles legitimate economic growth there.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

>This was an evil deed and was not deserved no matter which side one is on.

I agree, and I don't know if you read the article that I posted a link on. The author says the same thing a few times in the article. I am certainly not clicking my heels over what happened in Boston. It is sad and tragic. I just wish many of us in this country would extend the anger/sadness/shock/horror into a bit more that would prevent this around the world, especially when it is done by our own gov't, and had been for many decades directly or through our surrogates in some cases.

Hey Jack, I say we pull out almost all our military resources abroad, stop the foreign aid, and focus on our own problems here at home. Not isolation, but non-intervention, as us Libertarians like to say.

I certainly would like to see us reduce the size of our empire footprint around the world. Scale back to zero the newer installations quickly. The post WWII stuff in Germany and Japan and other places a bit slower to give those areas a chance to adapt to the changes in their local economy. I would not want to end foreign aid. We can build goodwill and friendly relations with appropriate work in this area. I would want to look into foreign aid in more detail, some of our aid is not really that.

I can understand your point, but the problem with selective monetary aid is that the enemies of our 'allies' see our aid as an endorsement if their enemy's agenda. Plus, what's the point of our aid? And is this not a form of international welfare? There is also evidence that our aid manipulates or stifles legitimate economic growth there.

Which is one reason I would want to look at foreign aid in detail. I know some of the aid we give is hurtful but there are some things, microloans, immediate aid in the face of a disaster that sometimes are needed.

[HeffnerIV]

Which is one reason I would want to look at foreign aid in detail. I know some of the aid we give is hurtful but there are some things, microloans, immediate aid in the face of a disaster that sometimes are needed.[/quote]

I guess I would consider something like that (if I had any input), but I'm certainly opposed to bribery disguised as aid. Plus, all if the rouge nations know that they just have to posture for a couple weeks and we'll buy them off with money we don't have (N Korea)

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Which is one reason I would want to look at foreign aid in detail. I know some of the aid we give is hurtful but there are some things, microloans, immediate aid in the face of a disaster that sometimes are needed.

I guess I would consider something like that (if I had any input), but I'm certainly opposed to bribery disguised as aid. Plus, all if the rouge nations know that they just have to posture for a couple weeks and we'll buy them off with money we don't have (N Korea)[/quote]

This recent deal with N Korea is not finished but so far Obama is not moving much, unless I missed something.

[HeffnerIV]

Which is one reason I would want to look at foreign aid in detail. I know some of the aid we give is hurtful but there are some things, microloans, immediate aid in the face of a disaster that sometimes are needed.

I guess I would consider something like that (if I had any input), but I'm certainly opposed to bribery disguised as aid. Plus, all if the rouge nations know that they just have to posture for a couple weeks and we'll buy them off with money we don't have (N Korea)

This recent deal with N Korea is not finished but so far Obama is not moving much, unless I missed something.[/quote]

I hope he doesn't. We should just allow the Japanese and S Koreans defends themselves. Let the two of them and china deal with Kim Jong Un.

[appdaze]

The news coverage of this incident is so pathetic and horrible. I've tried all the stations and they all have no clue whats happening yet i log on to twitter and follow the boston police and they say word for word what is going on. What the hell news media. Look at your twitter. Our sensationalist, dramatic, BS, media is such an embarrassment.

[StumpyCulbreath]

Not Bill Walton>all cable news media.