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Re: California Rule Challenges NCAA

Unread post by APPdiesel » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:15 pm

I wonder what some of you are going to do 12 Saturdays a year when this law is passed.
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Re: California Rule Challenges NCAA

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APPdiesel wrote:
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I wonder what some of you are going to do 12 Saturdays a year when this law is passed.
Sit out on my deck, drink some choice beverages and listen to 93.3 The Planet.
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Re: California Rule Challenges NCAA

Unread post by APPdiesel » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:57 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:41 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:15 pm
I wonder what some of you are going to do 12 Saturdays a year when this law is passed.
Sit out on my deck, drink some choice beverages and listen to 93.3 The Planet.
:D
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Re: California Rule Challenges NCAA

Unread post by huskie3 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:06 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:41 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:15 pm
I wonder what some of you are going to do 12 Saturdays a year when this law is passed.
Sit out on my deck, drink some choice beverages and listen to 93.3 The Planet.
Is this a hint as to who you work for?
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Re: California Rule Challenges NCAA

Unread post by appstatealum » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:23 pm

huskie3 wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:06 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:41 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:15 pm
I wonder what some of you are going to do 12 Saturdays a year when this law is passed.
Sit out on my deck, drink some choice beverages and listen to 93.3 The Planet.
Is this a hint as to who you work for?
Hahaha. Gosh, no! Those guys are amateur hour. I look at them as my little brother. "choice beverages" was referencing stuff not suitable for pregnant women or kids under the age of 21.
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Re: California Rule Challenges NCAA

Unread post by appstatealum » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:25 pm

APPdiesel wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:57 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:41 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:15 pm
I wonder what some of you are going to do 12 Saturdays a year when this law is passed.
Sit out on my deck, drink some choice beverages and listen to 93.3 The Planet.
:D
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Re: California Rule Challenges NCAA

Unread post by mountaineerman » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:16 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:25 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:57 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:41 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:15 pm
I wonder what some of you are going to do 12 Saturdays a year when this law is passed.
Sit out on my deck, drink some choice beverages and listen to 93.3 The Planet.
:D
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Re: California Rule Challenges NCAA

Unread post by appstatealum » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:20 pm

mountaineerman wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:16 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:25 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:57 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:41 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:15 pm
I wonder what some of you are going to do 12 Saturdays a year when this law is passed.
Sit out on my deck, drink some choice beverages and listen to 93.3 The Planet.
:D
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Re: California Rule Challenges NCAA

Unread post by APPdiesel » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:15 am

appstatealum wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:20 pm
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Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:16 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:25 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:57 pm
appstatealum wrote:
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Re: California Rule Challenges NCAA

Unread post by NewApp » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:47 am

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Furthermore, a couple of very real scenarios...

A player like Jalin Moore breaks his leg in service of App State. Maybe all he had on his mind was the NFL and ASU knew this so they enrolled him in bare minimum courses to keep him academically eligible. But his career is over now he has nothing. No NFL and no "real" education to speak of. Monies he earned while in college prevents him from being in a lurch after graduation.

(Obviously I'm not speaking specifically of Jalin, just players and situations like his)

Another situation, we've all seen Last Chance U...For every 1 academically gifted Corey Lynch that gets a physics degree there are 20 guys who can barely tie their shoes. You love watching them catch footballs but how many take *real* interest in their academic well being? Very few. Some players can barely read. Some universities are ok with that as long as they can play ball.

Feeling "icky" about athletes earning a few dollars that they can access upon graduation isn't a valid reason to deny what's coming. If it makes some of you feel better, how about add this caveat...get yourself in real trouble (sexual misconduct, drug charges, or worse) and your earnings are forfeit into the general athletic scholarship fund. Nothing speaks louder than money. Use this as an opportunity to teach players responsibility.

How about the athletes just turn pro right out of high school? That way they can get their just rewards straight from the NFL, NBA, MLB,etc. Won't work will it? Tough titty.
If someone is talented enough to immediately go pro out of high school, then why not?

MLB and NHL already allows this. NBA just killed one-and-done, so in 2021 or 2022, HS players will be directly eligible for the NBA draft again. On the other end of the spectrum, MLS requires graduation from an American college system (NAIA, for example). MLL requires competing at the college level and an expiration of NCAA eligibility.

NFL is a pseudo-middle ground on this one, requiring 3 years removed from high school (not necessarily in college either). If you don't play college ball though, you're probably not going to be competitive.
If someone is talented enough to immediately go pro out of high school, then why not?

That's what I want them to do instead of wasting taxpayers' money going to college to play a sport INSTEAD of getting an education first and foremost. If they want both equally as much, then perfectly alright. College football is not a minor league program...or at least it shouldn't be. Just the pros wouldn't be nearly as good if all students went straight from high school. Most are just not at their peak until 20, 21, or 22. The LeBron James of the world are few and far between.

Just my 2C worth. And it is shared by millions, I can assure you.
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