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CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:27 pm
by appdaze
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ions/live/


Not only does Cincy get a huge snub but they get punished with a game against Georgia in Atlanta.

8-3 ncsu who beat no one of consequence nabs the gator bowl.

UNC gets an NY6

I'm assuming Miami will get the Outback bowl. They may pick coastal but Miami is the bigger draw.

What a messed up year.

Hypothetical here. If we had gone undefeated, do we make the CFP this year?

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:35 pm
by Appstrong
Probably not. No P5 wins, and Marshall wet the bed to end the year. We would have beat UL twice and they would probably not be Top 25. Win against CCU and they might still be Top 25 with the rest of their record, but our only Top 25 win considering final hypothetical rankings.

If we had gone undefeated with our original schedule, there might have been hope considering how well our conference did this year.

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:41 pm
by booneboy92
And whatayaknow... the two P5's we were scheduled to play this season (with a combined 6 wins!) get the mayonnaise game in Charlotte...

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:47 pm
by AppDub
Sitting here watching the CoegebFootball Playoff Selection Show and I think it was Palmer who basically said the G5s need to start their own championship if they want to play a playoff scenario. What we we call that, the Football Bowl Subdivision FCS All Over Again Playoff. No way group of 5s are going to get a fair shake.

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:49 pm
by Appstrong
If ever there was a year to get 2 G5 schools in NY6, this would have been the year. CFP committee will move heaven and earth to prevent that. If the resume is there, well the P5 has a “better” team. If you don’t have the resume..., well you get the point. A team plays half their games and still gets in on the eye test over undefeated teams that play a full season. We will never see 2 G5 teams in CFP!

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:59 pm
by booneboy92
I would almost feel better if the playoff committee stated publicly... "Look you guys (the G5's) don't have the talent, the coaches, the facilities, the resources, etc... nor the money to buy these things, along with the power, the immunity from NCAA sanctions, the ability to make your own rules, etc... Therefore swallow (and choke on for all we care) the bitter pill that says we will NEVER consider any of you for anything lucrative before handing it to a P5, any P5 for that matter. Now that we're out in the open with all this, you can always consider breaking away and having your own playoffs. That's what we've always hoped you'd do anyway, but you just won't go away on your own. Now, finally having said this, we hope you realize none of this is EVER changing to your benefit." Why won't they just say it?!

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:03 pm
by WVAPPeer
They have said it - just not in those words

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:05 pm
by Yosef77
I see NCState has no opponent for the Gator bowl. We need to put in our application for that one.

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:08 pm
by Appstrong
I’m sure some P5 with a sub .500 record will fill the spot

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:18 pm
by bigdaddyg
Wake last win was on Halloween yet they get a nice bowl. I don’t knock UNC or State. Good records and good wins. What’s the point of the conference championship games? ND gets the doors blown off but it makes no difference.

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:27 pm
by Appstrong
I’m surprised some of these teams have opted out of bowls. I would imagine the coach gets a decent bonus through his contract if he makes a bowl game. I’m sure some just don’t want to extend the season past the holidays for the sake of their players, and some do not want their team to be rewarded for a mediocre season. I guess when you think about it, maybe there are more coaches out there that put the team ahead of their wallet.

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:47 pm
by BambooRdApp
In 2022, once we go undefeated by beating UNC and Texas A&M... Along with beating Marshall... will our best shot for NY6

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:33 pm
by booneboy92
Tbatchelor1977 wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:47 pm
In 2022, once we go undefeated by beating UNC and Texas A&M... Along with beating Marshall... will our best shot for NY6
And, even if that, and Carolina and A&M are #’s 1 and 2, that’s the best we’ll get, period... Sucks, but what do you do? I really hate it this year for Cindy, ULL, and (as much as I hate to say it) Coastal. I’m so fed up with politics in every aspect of life...

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:54 pm
by appbio91
bigdaddyg wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:18 pm
Wake last win was on Halloween yet they get a nice bowl. I don’t knock UNC or State. Good records and good wins. What’s the point of the conference championship games? ND gets the doors blown off but it makes no difference.
I hoped A&M would slip in on N Dame poor showing

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:24 pm
by Appstrong
Yosef77 wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:05 pm
I see NCState has no opponent for the Gator bowl. We need to put in our application for that one.
And as I predicted earlier in the thread, it looks like Kentucky at 4-6 will play NC State. I’ll bet the Wolfpack are thrilled :roll:

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:34 pm
by AppinATL
appdaze wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:27 pm
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ions/live/


Not only does Cincy get a huge snub but they get punished with a game against Georgia in Atlanta.

8-3 ncsu who beat no one of consequence nabs the gator bowl.

UNC gets an NY6

I'm assuming Miami will get the Outback bowl. They may pick coastal but Miami is the bigger draw.

What a messed up year.

Hypothetical here. If we had gone undefeated, do we make the CFP this year?
No G5 team will ever get picked for the playoff unless they expand it to 8 teams and decide they can throw us a bone by having a G5 spot. Anybody that was thinking Cincy had a chance has beed smoking the good stuff.

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:55 pm
by AppStFan1
appdaze wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:27 pm
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ions/live/


Not only does Cincy get a huge snub but they get punished with a game against Georgia in Atlanta.

8-3 ncsu who beat no one of consequence nabs the gator bowl.

UNC gets an NY6

I'm assuming Miami will get the Outback bowl. They may pick coastal but Miami is the bigger draw.

What a messed up year.

Hypothetical here. If we had gone undefeated, do we make the CFP this year?
No chance we make it. The AAC is given more credit than SBC and Cincy got snubbed. The only way we will ever have a shot at a national title in the SBC is if we have a G5 playoff where each G5 gets an auto-bid as long as CFP does not expand. If they expand to 8 teams and guarantee a slot for undefeated G5 conference champions then we would have a path.

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:44 pm
by appdaze
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... redictable

Love that ESPN is going after it. I know its only because they don't have as big a piece of the pie, but at least its getting called out on a national level.

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:52 pm
by Appstrong
I assumed the hypothetical in this thread was debating our chances of being selected by the CFP committee for a NY6 bowl. IMO there is no scenario that exists that would allow us to be considered for the championship playoff as long as we are in a G5 conference.

Re: CFB bias on full display

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:54 pm
by mountaineerman
Appstrong wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:52 pm
I assumed the hypothetical in this thread was debating our chances of being selected by the CFP committee for a NY6 bowl. IMO there is no scenario that exists that would allow us to be considered for the championship playoff as long as we are in a G5 conference.
No. The CFP was on full display this year. So obvious and blatant. It’s ridiculous.