Prayers for people under the Russian thumb.

[Appstate88]

Will the USA find the courage to lead the world again? Will our leadership do everything possible to protect these vulnerable people and innocent lives from being lost? When we are not all in, sit on the fence, wring one’s hands or just play geo-politics, we will watch real evil happen before our eyes on TV. I pray for our country. I hope we will find the courage to lead again.

https://fb.watch/bHO5U7ZozO/

Give some examples where the US led AND was doing it to protect innocent lives. I am not going to suggest it has never has happened. I can think of some times we were intervening to put down popular governments in Central America that were not friendly to American agribusiness interest. I can think of a few times we have supported terrible countries ourselves that were not democracies and had terrible human rights but they had things we wanted such as energy and raw materials.

There have been a few times we came in after things had developed and were on the right side of history, but I don’t think we were leading.

Agree I don’t think we have taken action solely to protect innocent lives. We do lead and have led many humanitarian missions. We also provide the most funding and support of UN peacekeeping missions deployed to encourage lasting peace and prevent further genocide in war torn/conflict areas around the world.

WWII comes to mind where we responded, then led and were on the right side of history.

[Appst86]

What really grinds my gears is the US only imported about 8% of our crude oil from Russian sources. The pre Russian oil ban price of gas in Indy was about 3.25. I may be nieve and I know that getting others sources up and running to the refineries takes time but....
A ten percent rise at the pump would equal

+10% =3.57
+20% =3.90 Hmm well okay?
+30% =4.22 Are you kidding me?
+40% =4.54 WTF is going on here? This is about where the price is here overnight, Its gouging my friends pure and simple.

Yeah, it seems like some of our anger is pointed toward the wrong people/entities.

I’m sure some companies will take advantage of the situation but it’s not just about how much oil we buy from Russia. We buy oil from the global market. There isn’t a price for Russian oil and a different price for Canadian oil. Oil is priced for the global market. But you guys keep blaming anybody but the folks at the root of the cause.

Wonder who they are?

Yes, please - I still haven't figured out how I can get gas one day at my local station at 2.50 a gallon and the very next day at the same local station it is 2.90 - It's the same gas that was in the tanks yesterday???

Because oil is traded on a global market. If the price goes up on the worldwide markets, the price of gas in the tanks at your local station goes up. If you bought shares of IBM for $55/share last week and they are trading at $75 this week, would you sell them for $55? They are the same shares, just worth more today. Oil prices are based on supply/demand and market sentiment. Conceptually, supply and demand is straight forward. Things world leaders do and say can affect sentiment, i.e., ceasing production or shutting down a pipeline.

[bigdaddyg]

Yeah, it seems like some of our anger is pointed toward the wrong people/entities.

I’m sure some companies will take advantage of the situation but it’s not just about how much oil we buy from Russia. We buy oil from the global market. There isn’t a price for Russian oil and a different price for Canadian oil. Oil is priced for the global market. But you guys keep blaming anybody but the folks at the root of the cause.

Wonder who they are?

Yes, please - I still haven't figured out how I can get gas one day at my local station at 2.50 a gallon and the very next day at the same local station it is 2.90 - It's the same gas that was in the tanks yesterday???

Because oil is traded on a global market. If the price goes up on the worldwide markets, the price of gas in the tanks at your local station goes up. If you bought shares of IBM for $55/share last week and they are trading at $75 this week, would you sell them for $55? They are the same shares, just worth more today. Oil prices are based on supply/demand and market sentiment. Conceptually, supply and demand is straight forward. Things world leaders do and say can affect sentiment, i.e., ceasing production or shutting down a pipeline.

Good point. My wife and I were driving home last night and while at a light I noticed gas prices at 3 stations at the intersection. On the right it was $4.19, on the left at one station $4.29 and at another $3.99. I’ve seen situations in my city where prices on one side could average as much as .30 different than on another. I’m pretty sure that the pipeline doesn’t go through here. I’ve honestly complained about that “already in the tank” deal but you are right. If a station has their price at $4 and all of a sudden the cost jumps to $5 and they leave their price at $4 there will be a run on their station and it will be gone in hours. While they will make good money for those few hours they will pay more to restock and the profits will disappear.

[Mjohn1988]

If any of you guys want a better understanding of who the Ukrainian people are and what they have done to gain independence from Russia take a look at Winter on Fire on Netflix. In 2014 these people fought a proxy Russian government. I don’t see them letting that fight be for nothing.

[NewApp]

If any of you guys want a better understanding of who the Ukrainian people are and what they have done to gain independence from Russia take a look at Winter on Fire on Netflix. In 2014 these people fought a proxy Russian government. I don’t see them letting that fight be for nothing.

It's almost inevitable that the Ukrainians will lose, sadly and tragically, but the Ruskies will know they've been in a helluva fight. Too bad that that phases Putin not a zilch. The end justifies the means in their way of thinking.

[huskie3]

If you want more background, goggle Holodomor.

[Yosef84]

Will the USA find the courage to lead the world again? Will our leadership do everything possible to protect these vulnerable people and innocent lives from being lost? When we are not all in, sit on the fence, wring one’s hands or just play geo-politics, we will watch real evil happen before our eyes on TV. I pray for our country. I hope we will find the courage to lead again.

https://fb.watch/bHO5U7ZozO/

Give some examples where the US led AND was doing it to protect innocent lives. I am not going to suggest it has never has happened. I can think of some times we were intervening to put down popular governments in Central America that were not friendly to American agribusiness interest. I can think of a few times we have supported terrible countries ourselves that were not democracies and had terrible human rights but they had things we wanted such as energy and raw materials.

There have been a few times we came in after things had developed and were on the right side of history, but I don’t think we were leading.

Agree I don’t think we have taken action solely to protect innocent lives. We do lead and have led many humanitarian missions. We also provide the most funding and support of UN peacekeeping missions deployed to encourage lasting peace and prevent further genocide in war torn/conflict areas around the world.

WWII comes to mind where we responded, then led and were on the right side of history.

Let me clarify that I am proud of our involvement in WWII and we were definitely on the right side of history. That said, we didn't "lead" during WWI, at least not until the latter stages. We were a late comer and only joined once we were attacked at Pearl Harbor.

[Appstate88]

Some comments from General Lord Richards to think about.
https://fb.watch/bL7Nr-uk33/

[bcoach]

Some comments from General Lord Richards to think about.
https://fb.watch/bL7Nr-uk33/

1. It will be long over in 3 months and the country will be devastated
2. NATO will do nothing

[HighlandsApp]

If any of you guys want a better understanding of who the Ukrainian people are and what they have done to gain independence from Russia take a look at Winter on Fire on Netflix. In 2014 these people fought a proxy Russian government. I don’t see them letting that fight be for nothing.

It's almost inevitable that the Ukrainians will lose, sadly and tragically, but the Ruskies will know they've been in a helluva fight. Too bad that that phases Putin not a zilch. The end justifies the means in their way of thinking.

More than likely, but the fact that Putin is having to recruit Syria and now is asking China for both military tech help and economic assistance is shocking.

[Appstate88]

Just my opinion…. I believe we (the US) will soon have to make a choice on what we want most. China will let us choose. Save Ukraine and lose Taiwan or save Taiwan and lose Ukraine. Either way China’s strength grows in global power.

[mountaineerman]

If any of you guys want a better understanding of who the Ukrainian people are and what they have done to gain independence from Russia take a look at Winter on Fire on Netflix. In 2014 these people fought a proxy Russian government. I don’t see them letting that fight be for nothing.

It's almost inevitable that the Ukrainians will lose, sadly and tragically, but the Ruskies will know they've been in a helluva fight. Too bad that that phases Putin not a zilch. The end justifies the means in their way of thinking.

More than likely, but the fact that Putin is having to recruit Syria and now is asking China for both military tech help and economic assistance is shocking.

He’s gone all in on this invasion. Russia today defaults on their debt. It’s all or nothing for him at this point. What will we do? It’s incredibly hard to watch a nation being blasted to smithereens …like nothing anyone has seen before. Almost 3 million refugees is a staggering number.

[Mjohn1988]

If any of you guys want a better understanding of who the Ukrainian people are and what they have done to gain independence from Russia take a look at Winter on Fire on Netflix. In 2014 these people fought a proxy Russian government. I don’t see them letting that fight be for nothing.

It's almost inevitable that the Ukrainians will lose, sadly and tragically, but the Ruskies will know they've been in a helluva fight. Too bad that that phases Putin not a zilch. The end justifies the means in their way of thinking.

More than likely, but the fact that Putin is having to recruit Syria and now is asking China for both military tech help and economic assistance is shocking.

He’s gone all in on this invasion. Russia today defaults on their debt. It’s all or nothing for him at this point. What will we do? It’s incredibly hard to watch a nation being blasted to smithereens …like nothing anyone has seen before. Almost 3 million refugees is a staggering number.

Really ugly stuff but Russia will never win this war. This will be another Afghanistan for them.

[Stonewall]

Win or lose , Russia loses. Ukraine loses .We lose. Agree that China is looming .Japan has made it clear that they will defend Taiwan , without Japan we are basically alone in the Pacific as flaky as Australia can be.India , the worlds largest democracy ,has a lot at stake trying to play the middle.

[Mjohn1988]

Win or lose , Russia loses. Ukraine loses .We lose. Agree that China is looming .Japan has made it clear that they will defend Taiwan , without Japan we are basically alone in the Pacific as flaky as Australia can be.India , the worlds largest democracy ,has a lot at stake trying to play the middle.

Your right, “win” isn’t a word that will apply to this whole situation.

[app87]

Just my opinion…. I believe we (the US) will soon have to make a choice on what we want most. China will let us choose. Save Ukraine and lose Taiwan or save Taiwan and lose Ukraine. Either way China’s strength grows in global power.

We will not give up Taiwan. Not only do they produce the most chips, they also produce the world's most advanced chips which can be found in the most highest-tech machinery from cell phones to fighter jets.

[Mjohn1988]

Just my opinion…. I believe we (the US) will soon have to make a choice on what we want most. China will let us choose. Save Ukraine and lose Taiwan or save Taiwan and lose Ukraine. Either way China’s strength grows in global power.

We will not give up Taiwan. Not only do they produce the most chips, they also produce the world's most advanced chips which can be found in the most highest-tech machinery from cell phones to fighter jets.

Same question as in regard to energy. From a national security standpoint, why would we allow that to happen. We don’t have to produce all of these chips but we should have the ability to ramp up production at the drop of a hat.

[app87]

Just my opinion…. I believe we (the US) will soon have to make a choice on what we want most. China will let us choose. Save Ukraine and lose Taiwan or save Taiwan and lose Ukraine. Either way China’s strength grows in global power.

We will not give up Taiwan. Not only do they produce the most chips, they also produce the world's most advanced chips which can be found in the most highest-tech machinery from cell phones to fighter jets.

Same question as in regard to energy. From a national security standpoint, why would we allow that to happen. We don’t have to produce all of these chips but we should have the ability to ramp up production at the drop of a hat.

I agree, we shouldn't. If anything, COVID taught us we have to rely on what we can produce or stockpile and we can't be dependent on other countries that will be trying to do the very same with their own populace.

[bcoach]

Just my opinion…. I believe we (the US) will soon have to make a choice on what we want most. China will let us choose. Save Ukraine and lose Taiwan or save Taiwan and lose Ukraine. Either way China’s strength grows in global power.

We will not give up Taiwan. Not only do they produce the most chips, they also produce the world's most advanced chips which can be found in the most highest-tech machinery from cell phones to fighter jets.

If China decides to take Taiwan just what does anyone think we are going to do about it?

[Saint3333]

Just my opinion…. I believe we (the US) will soon have to make a choice on what we want most. China will let us choose. Save Ukraine and lose Taiwan or save Taiwan and lose Ukraine. Either way China’s strength grows in global power.

We will not give up Taiwan. Not only do they produce the most chips, they also produce the world's most advanced chips which can be found in the most highest-tech machinery from cell phones to fighter jets.

If China decides to take Taiwan just what does anyone think we are going to do about it?

We bend the knee to them like we have for the past 20.