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Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:53 pm
by asu66
City Centre being evacuated! Munich Olympic Mall also. Multiple shooters with long guns still at large.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:46 pm
by asu66
Now nine dead--including one shooter. Other shooters remain at large. All of metro Munich is on lockdown. Transit systems have been shut down. Highways leading out of Bavaria have been closed until further notice. All public and private travel is verboten.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:26 pm
by NewApp
asu66 wrote:Now nine dead--including one shooter. Other shooters remain at large. All of metro Munich is on lockdown. Transit systems have been shut down. Highways leading out of Bavaria have been closed until further notice. All public and private travel is verboten.

This has been going on in Europe for the past 8 days. Two of the shootings were claimed by ISIS affiliated groups.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:09 am
by Rekdiver
Sole gunman not affiliated with any terrorist group, treated before for mental problems, no long gun just a glock, born in Germany. Targeted teens.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:32 am
by TheMoody1
Rekdiver wrote:Sole gunman not affiliated with any terrorist group, treated before for mental problems, no long gun just a glock, born in Germany. Targeted teens.
He held dual German and Iranian citizenship.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:46 am
by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09
TheMoody1 wrote:
Rekdiver wrote:Sole gunman not affiliated with any terrorist group, treated before for mental problems, no long gun just a glock, born in Germany. Targeted teens.
He held dual German and Iranian citizenship.
Correct. Was there more to this or were you just pointing out his citizenship?

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:53 am
by Gonzo
I believe he was a practicing member of a certain Death Cult, which should come as no surprise.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:09 pm
by TheMoody1
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
TheMoody1 wrote:
Rekdiver wrote:Sole gunman not affiliated with any terrorist group, treated before for mental problems, no long gun just a glock, born in Germany. Targeted teens.
He held dual German and Iranian citizenship.
Correct. Was there more to this or were you just pointing out his citizenship?

Just clarifying his status. I assume the completed investigation will determine if there is more to this.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:36 pm
by asu66
The question in my mind this afternoon is how a teenage, mentally-ill, German citizen gained access to a Glock and 300-400 rounds of ammo and created and posted a fake McDonald's Facebook account to the 'net luring German teens to a Munich Mickey'Ds location with offers of free food--without any help???????????? Firearms don't just float loose around Germany these days.

It's scary that a copy of the book Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds of School Shooters, by Peter Langman, Ph.D. was found among the shooter's possessions.

Enough here to keep the German BND Intelligence Service busy for a while.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07 ... 60723-1830

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:51 pm
by Gonzo
asu66 wrote:The question in my mind this afternoon is how a teenage, mentally-ill, German citizen gained access to a Glock and 300-400 rounds of ammo and created and posted a fake McDonald's Facebook account to the 'net luring German teens to a Munich Mickey'Ds location with offers of free food--without any help???????????? Firearms don't just float loose around Germany these days.

It's scary that a copy of the book Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds of School Shooters, by Peter Langman, Ph.D. was found among the shooter's possessions.

Enough here to keep the German BND Intelligence Service busy for a while.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07 ... 60723-1830
If you're looking for weapon stashes and accomplices, I'd start with the Mosques.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:16 pm
by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09
Gonzo wrote:
asu66 wrote:The question in my mind this afternoon is how a teenage, mentally-ill, German citizen gained access to a Glock and 300-400 rounds of ammo and created and posted a fake McDonald's Facebook account to the 'net luring German teens to a Munich Mickey'Ds location with offers of free food--without any help???????????? Firearms don't just float loose around Germany these days.

It's scary that a copy of the book Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds of School Shooters, by Peter Langman, Ph.D. was found among the shooter's possessions.

Enough here to keep the German BND Intelligence Service busy for a while.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07 ... 60723-1830
If you're looking for weapon stashes and accomplices, I'd start with the Mosques.
Doubt the Mosques that house radical Islam principles haa many or any hand guns in their inventory.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:21 pm
by bcoach
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
asu66 wrote:The question in my mind this afternoon is how a teenage, mentally-ill, German citizen gained access to a Glock and 300-400 rounds of ammo and created and posted a fake McDonald's Facebook account to the 'net luring German teens to a Munich Mickey'Ds location with offers of free food--without any help???????????? Firearms don't just float loose around Germany these days.

It's scary that a copy of the book Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds of School Shooters, by Peter Langman, Ph.D. was found among the shooter's possessions.

Enough here to keep the German BND Intelligence Service busy for a while.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07 ... 60723-1830
If you're looking for weapon stashes and accomplices, I'd start with the Mosques.
Doubt the Mosques that house radical Islam principles haa many or any hand guns in their inventory.
Well maybe not on site but I have to go with Gonzo on this one.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:05 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
And it seems the guy was another in a long line of right-wing mentally ill people. Nothing religious about this, but just some right-leaning views.

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/23/munich_ ... rs_breivik.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:12 pm
by TheMoody1
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:And it seems the guy was another in a long line of right-wing mentally ill people. Nothing religious about this, but just some right-leaning views.

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/23/munich_ ... rs_breivik.
He may not have been religious, but he was raised in a Shia Muslim family. Also, I read at least one witness acccount that he yelled, "allah akbar" during the attack. IMO, as Barney Fife would say, "he's a nut".

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:28 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
TheMoody1 wrote:
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:And it seems the guy was another in a long line of right-wing mentally ill people. Nothing religious about this, but just some right-leaning views.

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/23/munich_ ... rs_breivik.
He may not have been religious, but he was raised in a Shia Muslim family. Also, I read at least one witness acccount that he yelled, "allah akbar" during the attack. IMO, as Barney Fife would say, "he's a nut".
He certainly had mental issues, but what does being raised in a Shia family have to do with his mental issues, at least in the context that he was some sort of religious fanatic? That sort of statement is reeking of anti-muslim sentiment, that in this case seems unwarranted.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:11 pm
by hapapp
He apparently targeted foreigners, planned this for a year, and did so on the anniversary of the deadly Norwegian mass murder. It seems his Iranian background had little to do with this episode. He apparently had felt bullied in his earlier years.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:35 pm
by asu66
hapapp wrote:He apparently targeted foreigners, planned this for a year, and did so on the anniversary of the deadly Norwegian mass murder. It seems his Iranian background had little to do with this episode. He apparently had felt bullied in his earlier years.
Investigators release a little more info each day. It's a certainty that they aren't telling everything they know. Early this afternoon,I heard a news report on a SiriusXM station that it is now believed that the teen shooter acquired the weapon by way of an online black market purchase. One has to wonder how he pulled all of this off w/o his brother and/or his parents sensing that something was amiss. Still more questions than answers.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:36 pm
by TheMoody1
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
TheMoody1 wrote:
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:And it seems the guy was another in a long line of right-wing mentally ill people. Nothing religious about this, but just some right-leaning views.

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/23/munich_ ... rs_breivik.
He may not have been religious, but he was raised in a Shia Muslim family. Also, I read at least one witness acccount that he yelled, "allah akbar" during the attack. IMO, as Barney Fife would say, "he's a nut".
He certainly had mental issues, but what does being raised in a Shia family have to do with his mental issues, at least in the context that he was some sort of religious fanatic? That sort of statement is reeking of anti-muslim sentiment, that in this case seems unwarranted.
Just pointing out his background from several articles I read about him. You must be oober sensitive or a wanna be mind reader.

Re: Active Shooters in Munich; multiple fatalities--six or more--reported

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:02 pm
by McLeansvilleAppFan
TheMoody1 wrote:
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
TheMoody1 wrote:
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:And it seems the guy was another in a long line of right-wing mentally ill people. Nothing religious about this, but just some right-leaning views.

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/23/munich_ ... rs_breivik.
He may not have been religious, but he was raised in a Shia Muslim family. Also, I read at least one witness acccount that he yelled, "allah akbar" during the attack. IMO, as Barney Fife would say, "he's a nut".
He certainly had mental issues, but what does being raised in a Shia family have to do with his mental issues, at least in the context that he was some sort of religious fanatic? That sort of statement is reeking of anti-muslim sentiment, that in this case seems unwarranted.
Just pointing out his background from several articles I read about him. You must be oober sensitive or a wanna be mind reader.
Not sensitive, but the juxtaposition of "not-religious" followed by the ",but...Shia", could have been worded a bit better, unless your intention was to make a statement that the very fact he was from a Shia family was proof enough of religious intentions. I'll take your word that this was not your intention and leave it at that.