MSOC hopes to salvage a disaster of a weekend for ASU sports

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Please refresh my memory. Aren't we still going to be competing in the SoCon for soccer again next season

Latest news I hear is that Sunbelt has approved men's soccer, with a league comprised of App and GA Southern, and several affiliate members. Since nothing has been announced, I would assume we are still working out the details. SOCON initially voted us out for MSOC, then reconsidered and invited us to stay, and we said no thanks. I would think a MSOC conference will make the Sunbelt more appealing for potential new members, such as JMU or others who offer men's soccer.

That's a silly way of doing things. Heck either offer soccer as a conference sport or do not. This is just half-azz.

Were it not for half of the wrestling teams as one-sport affiliations, the SoCon would not have wrestling. I thought we were in the SoCon for soccer as they needed us for Wrestling, and the reason GaSo was not extended men's soccer is that they had no bargaining chips around wrestling. Now that I am hearing we told the SoCon no for men's soccer what does that mean for wrestling?

Is ETSU bringing wrestling? VMI is already a wrestling member of the SoCon and never left I don't think for wrestling.

My point is that VMI is an affiliate for wrestling. I don't know if ETSU has wrestling or not. As to us and the SoCon soccer program, I thought someone on this forum said that the SoCon turned US down for soccer, not vice versa.

According to DoubleA above there seems so back and forth re: SoCon soccer/wrestling and ASU.

"SOCON initially voted us out for MSOC, then reconsidered and invited us to stay, and we said no thanks."

It sounds like (and this is me guessing based on DoubleA's statement) is that the SoCon was mad we left for the SB and told us to leave for every sport. Which is their choice. Then they reconsidered considering they need us for wrrestling very likely. Then we said no to SoCon soccer since we worked out something with the SunBelt. GaSo really needs this SB soccer as they never had the wrestling to use as a bargaining chip. I would prefer to have everything in the SB if we are there, and I would love for us to pick up Swimming and Diving for the women to have a complete slate of SB sports, with only FH left out, and wrestling on the men's side.

Now my question is what happens with wrestling? Does the SoCon still need us enough for wrestling that we stay for the one sport, keep FH in the NorPac and leave women's swimming and diving as an empty spot in the SB.

[JCline0429]

Swimming: Someone on here said that our pool is not designed to accommodate diving and I bet it is used too much to enable the team to practice enough to be competitive. Too, it would have to be up to standards to host meets. Something has to give as many feel we can't support as many sports as we do. We had swimming and diving when we were in NAIA and we had enough pool access that every student had to pass swimming in order to graduate (unless they had a doctor's written exemption).

[DoubleA]

I thought someone on this forum said that the SoCon turned US down for soccer, not vice versa.

SOCON voted us out in the Spring and recently reconsidered and voted us in. I guess they had a change of heart after decisions by Elon and Davidson to jump ship and the remaining members realized SOCON is losing four of seven soccer programs.

[T-Dog]

The pool App has in the SRC isn't designed for diving. It's barely good enough for meets as the competition end is only 50 meters long (usually they are 100 m). The other end is shallow enough for aerobics and beginners.

Swimming is the only 8 am class I never fell asleep in.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

The pool App has in the SRC isn't designed for diving. It's barely good enough for meets as the competition end is only 50 meters long (usually they are 100 m). The other end is shallow enough for aerobics and beginners.

Swimming is the only 8 am class I never fell asleep in.

Actually I was looking into swimming and NCAA rules back a few months ago when we announced the move. The NCAA does not require, in fact prefers the shorter pool length and not the Olympic size pool. I guess this stems from the fact so few schools would have Olympic size pools that they don't even try to force the issue. Diving is a whole other issue of course with our facilities.

(Also I think you mean the pool is only 25 meters and not the competition 50 meters long. A 100 meter pool is longer than a football field.)

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

I thought someone on this forum said that the SoCon turned US down for soccer, not vice versa.

SOCON voted us out in the Spring and recently reconsidered and voted us in. I guess they had a change of heart after decisions by Elon and Davidson to jump ship and the remaining members realized SOCON is losing four of seven soccer programs.

The SoCon could drop soccer and the SB could pick it up and offer a few SoCon schools a one-sport membership maybe.

[asu66]

Concerning soccer in the Deep South...Title IX and emphasis on football are the issues...U of Texas would fall right in line with this...

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011 ... ave_d.html


Concerning Apps' needs for next season, speed and footwork are definitely issues. Elon's team-wide footwork was superior to that displayed by ASU players. Elon's wing forwards were bullet fast. We couldn't mark 'em.

Nonetheless, if S.Chapman had scored on his breakaway, it would have been "curtains" for the burning birds. IMHO, Chapman nails that goal 99 of every 100 attempts. It was that kind of season for our guys. I hate it for them; and especially for our Brit keeper Danny Free. He deserved better. He didn't have scoring support worth a dime most of the season as illustrated by a hard-to-believe seven (7) draws.

Back to the Elon match. IIRC, Stan Broaden didn't get off a shot on goal the entire night. That was bizarre. Elon clearly had him targeted by their defense and by the crowd. It was almost as if we were playing a man down.

[DoubleA]

Back to the Elon match. IIRC, Stan Broaden didn't get off a shot on goal the entire night. That was bizarre. Elon clearly had him targeted by their defense and by the crowd. It was almost as if we were playing a man down.

True, Stanley wasn't able to get off a shot, but he competed extremely hard throughout the game, won a number of contested headers and fought his way through defenders to get off a pair of really nice crosses. unfortunately, no one was on the other end to receive them.

I really thought scoring was our problem throughout the season, until I looked at the stats and realized this was our highest scoring team in several years. However, we conceded way too many shots and goals, which points back to a disadvantage against our opponents in controlling the run of play and possession. We only posted two "clean sheets" the entire season, and the two we did post went back to the first part of the schedule.

[3rd]

Mid-field

[DoubleA]

Mid-field

My spelling is not what it once was, and increasingly poor eyesight leads to plenty of typos, especially when not wearing glasses. However, I don't believe a hyphon is used for the soccer term "midfield", at least not according to Webster and other online sources. At any rate, no big deal.

[3rd]

Mid-field

My spelling is not what it once was, and increasingly poor eyesight leads to plenty of typos, especially when not wearing glasses. However, I don't believe a hyphon is used for the soccer term "midfield", at least not according to Webster and other online sources. At any rate, no big deal.

I used it as a pause in the word, sorry for the confusion. It was to used to draw attention to the major problem on the team. Also I believe hyphon is spelled hyphen, this is a message board who cares?