National Football signing day is 12-19, UNC wants to figure in that as much as possible on the 4-5 stars. Hopefully it is too late for those Holes to pluck Satt.
Here is the link to the fall sports streaming schedule.
https://appstatesports.com/news/2023/8/ ... edule.aspx
https://appstatesports.com/news/2023/8/ ... edule.aspx
Coaching change at UNCCheat
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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat
Charlotte will be paying $900,000--$1,000,000, I am not sure what App would do.beav910 wrote: ↑
Charlotte and App have similar salary ranges but I suspect ECU is in the low millions at least.
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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat
Here's my concern for Scott.
Programs like UNC are like great white sharks in bloody water. They destroy young coaching flesh and spit the bones to the side. I hope Scott speaks with Sparky Woods before he jumps from App into P5 waters. So far, Scott has neither displayed the ego nor made the mistakes that Sparky did but there are still some striking similarities in the two "cases." I don't mean that Sparky's success at App is on an equal plane with Scott's success. They aren't really (different times, expectations and pressures)--but there are still 60 or 70 big ol' smelly shark tanks out there--each just waiting for the next meal.
Scott was wise to sign a good agent.
If it happens to the Apps, it happens to me!
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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat
Dang Billy, I could have gone the rest of my life without that thought.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:24 pmI was hoping we'd have a go at getting Appalachian Football Working again.
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You had a Working experience for longer than I did, just one year for me and will never forget the bumper stickers "Appalachian Football, Aint Working"Apptiger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:00 pmDang Billy, I could have gone the rest of my life without that thought.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:24 pmI was hoping we'd have a go at getting Appalachian Football Working again.
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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat
Not THE key, but a factor. And, not just during Satt’s tenure. There was a long history of us turning under recruited players (several all Americans) into great players in the fcs days under Jerry Moore. Our recruiting has definitely taken a step up after the fbs transition, but I don’t think we’ve ever been at the top of the belt in recruiting. We win championships regardless. Satt is a great coach, and one of he and his staff’s best qualities is the ability to find the right pieces to fit our system as student athletes, regardless of how many stars are beside their names in the recruiting process. Our current 2nd leading tackler and beast of a LB was offered by Harvard, Furman, Fordham, and Gardner Webb. Just to name a few of our best players from the past who zero or very few D1 offers....Armanti Edwards, Kevin Richardson, Scott suttles, Jalin Moore. Point being that recruiting often has more to do with coaching and player development after those kids are on campus.Nugget49 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:43 pmI can't speak for ECU, but Lambert is hunting for a new job largely because he did not recruit well. You know App football better than I, so if you think Satterfield's ability to turn leftovers into a winning team is the key, then losing him is going to have an even bigger impact that I had imagined.app97 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:43 pmecu and uncc already compete well for recruits. We just happen to be a program that gets it done on the field with who we have, including a history of walk ons and under recruited players becoming extremely valuable.Nugget49 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:37 pmThis is a rhetorical question, right?
Satt has done a great job at App, and no doubt it holds a special place in his heart.
However, he does not get where he is today without being really competitive in his soul, and App cannot be where he thinks he will end his career. I see no incremental advantage in staying at App. Does going 13-0 next year get him better offers than where he is today? I doubt it.
Even if Satt does not get an offer, or the right offer, and chooses to stay, App is going to face pressure from other schools looking to hire his staff. This could put Satt's ability to continue winning in jeopardy, which might mean offers like UNC CHeat will not be there for him later. Additionally, ECU and Charlotte are presumably going to hire better coaches, and in theory, will better compete with App for recruits, again making it more difficult for Satt to maintain his level of success there.
All of this is speculation, and Satt will not have all the answers either, so he is going to have to roll the dice and decide if he can get the next step he wants now.
I honestly hope Satt stays for another year. I suspect Charlotte, ECU and APP will all be in the same general range pay wise, all will value coaches with recruiting ties in the Southeast, and all will be contacting some of the same people, so I want to go first. Plus, Satt seems like a good guy, but I would have to root for him to get caught with hookers and goats if he goes to Chapel Hill.
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Too long, I remember walking back to the car after the last game. We lost to Western. Yes Western, think there were 5-6,000 people there. My how times have changed.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:02 pmYou had a Working experience for longer than I did, just one year for me and will never forget the bumper stickers "Appalachian Football, Aint Working"Apptiger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:00 pmDang Billy, I could have gone the rest of my life without that thought.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:24 pmI was hoping we'd have a go at getting Appalachian Football Working again.
We were still using Owens as our locker room. Reporters were asking him questions about his job security. He said he hadn't spoken to anyone yet but he was not the least bit worried about his job.
Not the answer I wanted to hear. I went home to pray the new AD (Jim Garner) would end this cluster. Got up the next morning and prayers were answered.
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Heard he liked the coeds too.Apptiger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:58 pmToo long, I remember walking back to the car after the last game. We lost to Western. Yes Western, think there were 5-6,000 people there. My how times have changed.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:02 pmYou had a Working experience for longer than I did, just one year for me and will never forget the bumper stickers "Appalachian Football, Aint Working"Apptiger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:00 pmDang Billy, I could have gone the rest of my life without that thought.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:24 pmI was hoping we'd have a go at getting Appalachian Football Working again.
We were still using Owens as our locker room. Reporters were asking him questions about his job security. He said he hadn't spoken to anyone yet but he was not the least bit worried about his job.
Not the answer I wanted to hear. I went home to pray the new AD (Jim Garner) would end this cluster. Got up the next morning and prayers were answered.
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Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat
Heard the same, didn't witness it first hand. Did witness some other stuff but I digress....It's still painful to discuss.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:03 pmHeard he liked the coeds too.Apptiger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:58 pmToo long, I remember walking back to the car after the last game. We lost to Western. Yes Western, think there were 5-6,000 people there. My how times have changed.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:02 pmYou had a Working experience for longer than I did, just one year for me and will never forget the bumper stickers "Appalachian Football, Aint Working"Apptiger wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:00 pmDang Billy, I could have gone the rest of my life without that thought.Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:24 pm
I was hoping we'd have a go at getting Appalachian Football Working again.
We were still using Owens as our locker room. Reporters were asking him questions about his job security. He said he hadn't spoken to anyone yet but he was not the least bit worried about his job.
Not the answer I wanted to hear. I went home to pray the new AD (Jim Garner) would end this cluster. Got up the next morning and prayers were answered.
Re: Coaching change at UNCCheat
I had one of those bumper stickers too!Black Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:02 pmYou had a Working experience for longer than I did, just one year for me and will never forget the bumper stickers "Appalachian Football, Aint Working"
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I'd hope with the emotional bond Satterfield has with the school and the surrounding area, that would trump any opportunity to take over a dumpster fire of a program which is caked in scandal year in and year out.
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In the event he does go, the program is still a very strong and successful G5 program with a supportive, loyal fan base, good attendance and a rich history of success. I would think an opportunity to take the reigns of a program like ours would attract the likes of some pretty good applicants.
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In the event he does go, the program is still a very strong and successful G5 program with a supportive, loyal fan base, good attendance and a rich history of success. I would think an opportunity to take the reigns of a program like ours would attract the likes of some pretty good applicants.
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Nugget, what part of the chicken do you come from? Let me guess?
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I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling or saying this- Appalachian State is just a unique and special place. We just bring in kids who are coached up and play to a higher level year in and year out. We have proven that recruiting stars are absolutely meaningless. How freaking hard is it to coach at Alabama? Does Saban REALLY coach his tail off? My god if you get 15 4 and 5 star recruits every year its not that hard. We have had a few knuckleheads over the years but for the most part we have more Jalin Moore’s who bleed black and gold. I believe that Satt is really good at what he does but I just am not sure he can duplicate mountain magic in blue heaven.
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Scott was a walk-on. Everybody said he couldn’t do it. That chip has fueled his hunger to prove everyone wrong. He is young, smart and ambitious. He is blue collar, no big ego and an excellent coach. For him not to take a Job like UNC would be folly. The have the money, the facilities and the potential.
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UNC folks seem to think there will be a press conference on Tuesday. Sounds like rumors of,
“I also hear Mack Brown is very, very interested in North Carolina job,” Bohls tweeted. “Could bring former Texas DC Gene Chizik with him and try to bring Kliff Kingsbury as his OC.”
“I also hear Mack Brown is very, very interested in North Carolina job,” Bohls tweeted. “Could bring former Texas DC Gene Chizik with him and try to bring Kliff Kingsbury as his OC.”
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http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
Just FYSA in case you want to see coach’s salaries published by USA Today.
Just FYSA in case you want to see coach’s salaries published by USA Today.
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