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CBS Sports G5 playoff

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:02 am

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The same could almost be said of the SEC, without 'Bama and UGA they're just an average conference. They're lucky to have had 'Bama's run.
Eight SEC teams are ranked in the final CFP poll (four in the top 11). The ACC has #2 Clemson and
Syracuse at 20. My point wasn't to compare the ACC to the SEC because... My point is that the concept of a power conference is ridiculous given a lot of teams in those "power" conferences are not contenders for anything.

I wish there was some kind of EPL relegation and promotion system to get in the "power" conferences.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:08 am

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:02 am
goapps93 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:43 pm
The same could almost be said of the SEC, without 'Bama and UGA they're just an average conference. They're lucky to have had 'Bama's run.
Eight SEC teams are ranked in the final CFP poll (four in the top 11). The ACC has #2 Clemson and
Syracuse at 20. My point wasn't to compare the ACC to the SEC because... My point is that the concept of a power conference is ridiculous given a lot of teams in those "power" conferences are not contenders for anything.

I wish there was some kind of EPL relegation and promotion system to get in the "power" conferences.
Good point. Why can’t there be “football only” conferences?

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by AppScott89 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:50 am

I would love to see 8 16 team regional conferences. Then have a 10 team playoff. 8 conferences winners and 2 at-large bids. This makes the regular season relevant. Cut the season to 11 games and play a conference championship. Then the playoffs would like this:

Round 1
7vs10
8vs9

Round 2
1vs8/9 winner
2vs7/10 winner
3vs6
4vs5

and so on.
The two teams in the finals would play a total of 15/16 games.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by fjblair » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:00 am

goapps93 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:43 pm
The same could almost be said of the SEC, without 'Bama and UGA they're just an average conference. They're lucky to have had 'Bama's run.
:lol:

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by Black Saturday » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:45 am

goapps93 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:43 pm
The same could almost be said of the SEC, without 'Bama and UGA they're just an average conference. They're lucky to have had 'Bama's run.
BAMA is lucky that UGA's coach made the worst coaching decision in a game of that magnitude in a long time. You make the Death Star go 90 yards to beat you, not 50. Kirby Smart, maybe it should be Kirby Dumbass, will not live that call down until UGA beats BAMA in huge games consistently. Going for it on 4th and 11 against the best coached team in football, that rivals Bobby's "Go For 2".

UGA has lead of the Death Star for all game of their last 2 meetings but for 90 seconds.
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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by EMCasu04 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:54 am

ericsaid wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:49 am
APPdiesel wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:31 am
Rekdiver wrote:
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Time to file suit under federal racketeering laws against the NCAA and the FBS P5 conferences.
Pretty sure we can't filt suit when we (the Sunbelt Conference and the G5 as a whole) agreed to the terms and conditions in contractual form. Our best bet is to hitch our wagon to the eventual Pac12 gripe that they keep getting left out and that conference champions get in. (Highest rated G5 conference champion of course, not all 5 of is).
Are you familiar with contract law? A contract made with questionably legality could be subject to being null and void. Of course it would take a lawsuit to address the question of the legality of the current system and the contract.
Are you familiar with contract law? A determination on the legality of a contract is at the time the contract is entered into. Brush up on the contracts clause.
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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by ericsaid » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:08 am

EMCasu04 wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:54 am
ericsaid wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:49 am
APPdiesel wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:31 am
Rekdiver wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:58 pm
Time to file suit under federal racketeering laws against the NCAA and the FBS P5 conferences.
Pretty sure we can't filt suit when we (the Sunbelt Conference and the G5 as a whole) agreed to the terms and conditions in contractual form. Our best bet is to hitch our wagon to the eventual Pac12 gripe that they keep getting left out and that conference champions get in. (Highest rated G5 conference champion of course, not all 5 of is).
Are you familiar with contract law? A contract made with questionably legality could be subject to being null and void. Of course it would take a lawsuit to address the question of the legality of the current system and the contract.
Are you familiar with contract law? A determination on the legality of a contract is at the time the contract is entered into. Brush up on the contracts clause.
Not unless the Contract is entered into in bad faith, knowing questionable legality of the actions that the contract is signed for. Read up on the Illegal Agreement.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by stafford » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:20 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
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stafford wrote:
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Back in around 1999, I was in a graduate class at UNC Greensboro. Their AD was asked to present as a guest speaker in one of my classes. He began describing the realignment that had not yet occurred. He told us how the bigger conferences would start stealing schools to add and it would become every man (school) for himself. These bigger conferences would be at the top level of college athletics.

He said the remaining schools in D1 would form their own conferences in a second tier. And he said that the schools at the IAA level would essentially become the third tier in DI college athletics. Basically, everything he said happened in almost the exact way that he described starting 10 years later.
The thing that really holds the ultimate goal of four 16 team power conferences from being a reality is geography (as funny as that seems at this point)
At that time, only Florida State had joined the other 8 members of the ACC. I remember that most of the sports fan didn't believe what the guy was saying. They were too focused on ACC basketball to have any concept of what they guy was talking about. The schools he mentioned as possibilities for the ACC were established Northern Big East basketball schools. It just didn't make any sense to a lot of people. Heck, I'm not sure it makes a lot of sense now other than dollars.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:08 pm

Just remember, a playoff expansion to eight will not be about inclusion, it'll be about making ESPN money. G5s might get one auto bid.

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Unread post by JMappfan5 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:23 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:45 am
goapps93 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:43 pm
The same could almost be said of the SEC, without 'Bama and UGA they're just an average conference. They're lucky to have had 'Bama's run.
BAMA is lucky that UGA's coach made the worst coaching decision in a game of that magnitude in a long time. You make the Death Star go 90 yards to beat you, not 50. Kirby Smart, maybe it should be Kirby Dumbass, will not live that call down until UGA beats BAMA in huge games consistently. Going for it on 4th and 11 against the best coached team in football, that rivals Bobby's "Go For 2".

UGA has lead of the Death Star for all game of their last 2 meetings but for 90 seconds.
Bobby's "go for 2" made sense, but Kirby's decision was a bonehead call.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by Black Saturday » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:29 pm

JMappfan5 wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:23 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:45 am
goapps93 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:43 pm
The same could almost be said of the SEC, without 'Bama and UGA they're just an average conference. They're lucky to have had 'Bama's run.
BAMA is lucky that UGA's coach made the worst coaching decision in a game of that magnitude in a long time. You make the Death Star go 90 yards to beat you, not 50. Kirby Smart, maybe it should be Kirby Dumbass, will not live that call down until UGA beats BAMA in huge games consistently. Going for it on 4th and 11 against the best coached team in football, that rivals Bobby's "Go For 2".

UGA has lead of the Death Star for all game of their last 2 meetings but for 90 seconds.
Bobby's "go for 2" made sense, but Kirby's decision was a bonehead call.
Running the ball makes lots of sense, not much sense throwing the ball into the flat in that situation, maybe we can lay it on the QB Napier, if you want to apologize for, Lamb, you never throw wide in that situation, what happened just might happen.
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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by MountainMan » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:04 pm

Playoff expansion to 8 teams is very likely to happen, and that opens the door for a G5 team. Will be 30 more years before a team not in today's P5 would stand a real chance of winning the natty, but it's something.

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Unread post by Rekdiver » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:35 am

In these days of collusion I’d say the P5 is a cartel formed to deny G5 programs access to revenue. Some of you fine legal minds ought to be able to make a legal argument. Taft-Hartley?

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:40 pm

Rekdiver wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:35 am
In these days of collusion I’d say the P5 is a cartel formed to deny G5 programs access to revenue. Some of you fine legal minds ought to be able to make a legal argument. Taft-Hartley?
I keep saying this, but you can't overlook ESPN's role in all of this.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by Rekdiver » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:57 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:40 pm
Rekdiver wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:35 am
In these days of collusion I’d say the P5 is a cartel formed to deny G5 programs access to revenue. Some of you fine legal minds ought to be able to make a legal argument. Taft-Hartley?
I keep saying this, but you can't overlook ESPN's role in all of this.
Sue ‘em all!!!

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:57 pm

I am one who has brought up a G5 playoff before but now that I have read arguments (mostly against) I am on the no side. Other than absolutely being relegated to a second class citizenship of big boy football you would also have to consider the fact that even if the P5’s go to 4 16 team conferences only a precious few of those 64 teams will ever really sniff a playoff, even 8 teams. Can’t see Kansas, Illinois, Indiana, Wake, etc really contending.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by Black Saturday » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:19 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:57 pm
I am one who has brought up a G5 playoff before but now that I have read arguments (mostly against) I am on the no side. Other than absolutely being relegated to a second class citizenship of big boy football you would also have to consider the fact that even if the P5’s go to 4 16 team conferences only a precious few of those 64 teams will ever really sniff a playoff, even 8 teams. Can’t see Kansas, Illinois, Indiana, Wake, etc really contending.
Grobe had Wake rolling at one time.

Agree 110%, we are what we are, Little Brothers, and will always be. I'm on the side of just give us a chance to fight it out amongst ourselves. It's a total crack pipe dream that G5 gets in the playoff.
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