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NO Bowl vs DG Bowl vs Camellia Bowl
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Curious to hear your thoughts comparing the three bowls. Thanks for your time
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Re: NO Bowl vs DG Bowl vs Camellia Bowl
Do you mean the location & experience or the games themselves?
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Now that the NO Bowl is rewarded to the Sun Belt top dog, that would be my preference. That will make planning a little bit easier for me.
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I didn't make it to Mobile so I obviously can't comment there.
Montgomery was fun for a day and a half. They have about two bars, very good tailgating setup, you see App people everywhere. Easy to drive wherever you want with no traffic. Some good civil rights history sites worth checking out. Stadium is... cozy. I went both times and would probably go again.
New Orleans is just a whole different experience of course, a destination city. You never run out of stuff to do or places to eat. Bowl obviously isn't THE big event there, but I did see plenty of App folks around the French Quarter (we got there Thursday). We got a place midway between the Superdome and the FQ and walked everywhere we went except the airport. Of course there's other stuff to do elsewhere in the city if you wanted to branch out a bit. Cool to see a game in the Superdome even though it was mostly empty. Don't know if anyone tailgated (obvs most of us flew down), but who cares when you've got Bourbon St.
Montgomery was fun for a day and a half. They have about two bars, very good tailgating setup, you see App people everywhere. Easy to drive wherever you want with no traffic. Some good civil rights history sites worth checking out. Stadium is... cozy. I went both times and would probably go again.
New Orleans is just a whole different experience of course, a destination city. You never run out of stuff to do or places to eat. Bowl obviously isn't THE big event there, but I did see plenty of App folks around the French Quarter (we got there Thursday). We got a place midway between the Superdome and the FQ and walked everywhere we went except the airport. Of course there's other stuff to do elsewhere in the city if you wanted to branch out a bit. Cool to see a game in the Superdome even though it was mostly empty. Don't know if anyone tailgated (obvs most of us flew down), but who cares when you've got Bourbon St.
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I went to both Camelia Bowls and the New Orleans Bowl. Couldn’t make the DG Bowl because of the date. NoLa wins by a country mile in my book because it’s in NoLa. It was my second trip to New Orleans and, Saints notwithstanding, it might be my favorite place in the world. It’s overflowing with art, music, history, and good food. One of the biggest parties on the planet as well. We did Bourbon/French Quarter, Frenchman Street, and the National WWII Museum in December.
I did have a great time both trips to Montgomery. Don’t get me wrong. I may have even preferred the Crampton Bowl to the New Orleans Dome based on crowd size. The town of Montgomery and the stadium were the perfect size for the amount of people.
I did have a great time both trips to Montgomery. Don’t get me wrong. I may have even preferred the Crampton Bowl to the New Orleans Dome based on crowd size. The town of Montgomery and the stadium were the perfect size for the amount of people.
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I don't think the Dollar General Bowl should be a part of the conversation.
Comparing the other two I think the advantages of the Camellia Bowl are the disadvantages of the NO Bowl and vice versa:
Camellia Bowl Pros:
Driveable from NC
Stadium size is a better fit for the number of fans attending
Everything is walkable from the team hotel, parade route, Alumni tailgate, stadium
The bowl game is THE event in the city for the weekend, and the community is excited we're there.
Easily take the entire family and small children
Camellia Bowl cons:
Limited flight options
Limited number of activities outside of the bowl events. You can do most everything in the 1st trip.
Stadium has limited amenities
New Orleans Bowl pros:
Lots of flight options
Lots of restaurants, hotels and activities away from the bowl events
Big time stadium
Alumni Tailgate and stadium entrance
Will take multiple years before you've seen and done everything there is to see in New Orleans
New Orleans Bowl cons:
Crime!
Filth!
Adult only trip
Tailgating atmosphere
Empty stadium
Not driveable from NC
For the record, I've spent a ton of time in New Orleans over the years and I think it is one of the worst cities in America; rivaling Newark, Houston and Compton.
Comparing the other two I think the advantages of the Camellia Bowl are the disadvantages of the NO Bowl and vice versa:
Camellia Bowl Pros:
Driveable from NC
Stadium size is a better fit for the number of fans attending
Everything is walkable from the team hotel, parade route, Alumni tailgate, stadium
The bowl game is THE event in the city for the weekend, and the community is excited we're there.
Easily take the entire family and small children
Camellia Bowl cons:
Limited flight options
Limited number of activities outside of the bowl events. You can do most everything in the 1st trip.
Stadium has limited amenities
New Orleans Bowl pros:
Lots of flight options
Lots of restaurants, hotels and activities away from the bowl events
Big time stadium
Alumni Tailgate and stadium entrance
Will take multiple years before you've seen and done everything there is to see in New Orleans
New Orleans Bowl cons:
Crime!
Filth!
Adult only trip
Tailgating atmosphere
Empty stadium
Not driveable from NC
For the record, I've spent a ton of time in New Orleans over the years and I think it is one of the worst cities in America; rivaling Newark, Houston and Compton.
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I've been to each bowl game. The DG Bowl was the most enjoyable for me. Much of that enjoyment was from your recommendations and simply hanging out with you.
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Due to obligations, the NO Bowl is the only one I’ve been to so far. Any of the bowls are easily driveable, the drive to New Orleans is nothing compared to the horrific annual trip I take to the Sarasota area in Florida. It’s all interstate.
Pros
- it’s New Orleans, one big party.
- plenty of places to stay and eat
- plenty of things to see, tons of history.
- locals are extremely friendly
- everything walking distance, and you can do it drinking a beer
- even though our bowl wasn’t big, a lot of the businesses in FQ knew we were there and were supportive.
- my 8 and 4 yr old came, I was never concerned about it being “Adult only”. My kids always go with us everywhere, it’s good for them to experience “culture”. I find the world gets smaller the more I experience of it.
- Cafe Du Monde coffee and beneits
Cons
- the Superdome is too much stadium for our crowd
Pros
- it’s New Orleans, one big party.
- plenty of places to stay and eat
- plenty of things to see, tons of history.
- locals are extremely friendly
- everything walking distance, and you can do it drinking a beer
- even though our bowl wasn’t big, a lot of the businesses in FQ knew we were there and were supportive.
- my 8 and 4 yr old came, I was never concerned about it being “Adult only”. My kids always go with us everywhere, it’s good for them to experience “culture”. I find the world gets smaller the more I experience of it.
- Cafe Du Monde coffee and beneits
Cons
- the Superdome is too much stadium for our crowd
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I've been all 4 bowl games. If I was to rank MY EXPERIENCE:
1a) NO Bowl
2b) Camellia Bowl
3) DG Bowl
New Orleans is just a fun place to visit, the positives are obvious. I made the trip with 5 of us splitting a condo on Airbnb which made the trip more memorable and cost low. Had a blast in Harris' casino and a lot of other things I still want to do. However ...
-If that trip was not made with friends to split cost and gas, probably would not be able to make the trip.
-We decided to drive, splitting gas made it SOOO much cheaper, but 11 hours on the road is rough when ya get back. As someone also stated, crime and clientele isn't ideal(actually had some things stolen from the car). Would like to not be harassed by locals trying to clean my shoes for money.
-Once you've seen Bourbon Street, there's nothing more to experience going back, and definitely not comfortable enough there to drink myself into a good time.
-The SuperDome is awesome but also disappointing at the same time with crowd to seat ratio.
What I loved about Camellia the ease of the whole weekend. Tickets were much cheaper then NO as well as hotel rooms. The 7 hour drive is much more manageable combined with price makes the trip less stressful. Tailgating was so much better and the stadium was perfect for the App crowd. I enjoy a larger App crowd. There's was enough to do from site seeing to shopping to keep you busy for a day. And can probably fine something new to do next time. The main negative for me with the Camellia bowl is having to play a MAC team ... that game could be a BLAST with another CUSA crowd in town. I didn't want Montgomery for a 3rd year in a row, but will go back next time for sure now that it's been a few years. Even though the positives aren't as good as NO, the lack of negatives give it a tie to me.
The main negative about my DG bowl experience is that I didn't give myself enough time to enjoy. A lot has to do with longer drive and the date(which kept anyone else but GF from going down with me) for the bowl, which are negatives in themselves. But if I had to do it over again, I would try to get something down at the coast and use it as a "beach" weekend. Only ? would be could I afford that, but I could see a much better experience by waking up along the Gulf Coast ... again, something other then the MAC for an opponent would be nice too.
1a) NO Bowl
2b) Camellia Bowl
3) DG Bowl
New Orleans is just a fun place to visit, the positives are obvious. I made the trip with 5 of us splitting a condo on Airbnb which made the trip more memorable and cost low. Had a blast in Harris' casino and a lot of other things I still want to do. However ...
-If that trip was not made with friends to split cost and gas, probably would not be able to make the trip.
-We decided to drive, splitting gas made it SOOO much cheaper, but 11 hours on the road is rough when ya get back. As someone also stated, crime and clientele isn't ideal(actually had some things stolen from the car). Would like to not be harassed by locals trying to clean my shoes for money.
-Once you've seen Bourbon Street, there's nothing more to experience going back, and definitely not comfortable enough there to drink myself into a good time.
-The SuperDome is awesome but also disappointing at the same time with crowd to seat ratio.
What I loved about Camellia the ease of the whole weekend. Tickets were much cheaper then NO as well as hotel rooms. The 7 hour drive is much more manageable combined with price makes the trip less stressful. Tailgating was so much better and the stadium was perfect for the App crowd. I enjoy a larger App crowd. There's was enough to do from site seeing to shopping to keep you busy for a day. And can probably fine something new to do next time. The main negative for me with the Camellia bowl is having to play a MAC team ... that game could be a BLAST with another CUSA crowd in town. I didn't want Montgomery for a 3rd year in a row, but will go back next time for sure now that it's been a few years. Even though the positives aren't as good as NO, the lack of negatives give it a tie to me.
The main negative about my DG bowl experience is that I didn't give myself enough time to enjoy. A lot has to do with longer drive and the date(which kept anyone else but GF from going down with me) for the bowl, which are negatives in themselves. But if I had to do it over again, I would try to get something down at the coast and use it as a "beach" weekend. Only ? would be could I afford that, but I could see a much better experience by waking up along the Gulf Coast ... again, something other then the MAC for an opponent would be nice too.
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I didn't go to DG Bowl due to date, but here are 2 key differences between the Camilla Bowl & NO Bowl:
1. I was in Montgomery for 2 days and had to visit the Aviator Bar 3 times.
2. I was in New Orleans for 3 days and never visited the same bar twice.
1. I was in Montgomery for 2 days and had to visit the Aviator Bar 3 times.
2. I was in New Orleans for 3 days and never visited the same bar twice.
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I agree with boone goon that NO is the most decadent and filthy city in the nation. Yeah, they got the dome and the war museum but it's an awful city. Been there 4 times, once extended stay, and don't wish to go back.
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That was my first visit to NO, and def won’t be my last. I’ve been to most major cities in America, here is my list of filthier cities, in no particular order).Cro-Magnon App wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:45 pmI agree with boone goon that NO is the most decadent and filthy city in the nation. Yeah, they got the dome and the war museum but it's an awful city. Been there 4 times, once extended stay, and don't wish to go back.
1. Philly
2. Boston
3. Chicago-outside of Navy Pier area
4. NYC
5. Baltimore (would def be #1)
I never felt unsafe in New Orleans.
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Mobile is the best of all worlds for us. The date is the problem.
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Re: NO Bowl vs DG Bowl vs Camellia Bowl
It always intrigues me when I see such alternate opinions to those I hold. I'm a pretty big traveler and have been fortunate to visit almost all major American cities and I'd have to say that New Orleans is, hands-down, my favorite mid-sized city in the country and one of my favorites all-around, regardless of size. Where you see filth...I see character and history and gritty-charm. IMO, those traits in say, Charlotte or San Diego or Denver, would constitute "filthy" - in New Orleans it "just works". I'm not even a huge Bourbon Street guy (though I do hit the Quarter every visit)...give me the Garden District, Frenchmen, Bywater, Faubourg, etc., but I find the people and the culture and the atmosphere intoxicating. It might be the humidity, it might be the laissez-faire attitude or the melding/melting of cultures, but to me, decadence is a good word. That all having been said, I wouldn't want to live there, as I feel it would ruin the intrigue for me, the same as people move to the beach for the beach but then rarely find themselves actually out on the beach, but I do love to visit and do my best to get down for *at least* a long weekend every year. If I had to beg the God's to spare one major American city from wrath, and with climate change and rising sea levels that might be a legitimate request, my please-do-spare would definitely be NOLA.Cro-Magnon App wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:45 pmI agree with boone goon that NO is the most decadent and filthy city in the nation. Yeah, they got the dome and the war museum but it's an awful city. Been there 4 times, once extended stay, and don't wish to go back.
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The people in New Orleans are the nicest people! From cab/Uber drivers, hotel employees, wait staff, etc. EVERYONE we encountered was overly, genuinely nice. The food is incredible and the vibe is awesome.
Too bad for those who view NO as only decadent and filthy. Your loss.
Too bad for those who view NO as only decadent and filthy. Your loss.
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This is a good point. Although to be fair, I visited Willie’s Chicken Shack more times than I can remember (literally).JGthatsme86 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:11 pmI didn't go to DG Bowl due to date, but here are 2 key differences between the Camilla Bowl & NO Bowl:
1. I was in Montgomery for 2 days and had to visit the Aviator Bar 3 times.
2. I was in New Orleans for 3 days and never visited the same bar twice.
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You nailed it.HkyMtneer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:12 pmIt always intrigues me when I see such alternate opinions to those I hold. I'm a pretty big traveler and have been fortunate to visit almost all major American cities and I'd have to say that New Orleans is, hands-down, my favorite mid-sized city in the country and one of my favorites all-around, regardless of size. Where you see filth...I see character and history and gritty-charm. IMO, those traits in say, Charlotte or San Diego or Denver, would constitute "filthy" - in New Orleans it "just works". I'm not even a huge Bourbon Street guy (though I do hit the Quarter every visit)...give me the Garden District, Frenchmen, Bywater, Faubourg, etc., but I find the people and the culture and the atmosphere intoxicating. It might be the humidity, it might be the laissez-faire attitude or the melding/melting of cultures, but to me, decadence is a good word. That all having been said, I wouldn't want to live there, as I feel it would ruin the intrigue for me, the same as people move to the beach for the beach but then rarely find themselves actually out on the beach, but I do love to visit and do my best to get down for *at least* a long weekend every year. If I had to beg the God's to spare one major American city from wrath, and with climate change and rising sea levels that might be a legitimate request, my please-do-spare would definitely be NOLA.Cro-Magnon App wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:45 pmI agree with boone goon that NO is the most decadent and filthy city in the nation. Yeah, they got the dome and the war museum but it's an awful city. Been there 4 times, once extended stay, and don't wish to go back.
Me and the Fam stayed at Hotel Villa Convento (House of the Rising Sun) in a small room with paint peeling and all. My kids and wife LOVED it. Everyone was super nice, my son even engaged with the homeless population in the FQ.
As far as climate change and rising sea levels, my only comment is why in the h*** do you build a city below sea level that is right next to the sea? Climate will always change and man ain't got a whole lot of say in the matter other than building in a better location. It was crazy seeing the water lines on the buildings down there.
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It all depends but agree about Philadelphia, NY and Baltimore. I found the areas of Chicago that we visited to be very clean for a big city. Boston had some grunge, but it's a great city to visit. The grit is part of the New Orleans dna, some people get it, some don't. I don't like going places where everything is like everything else ie. a sanitized Disney World experience.appstatealum wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:16 pmThat was my first visit to NO, and def won’t be my last. I’ve been to most major cities in America, here is my list of filthier cities, in no particular order).Cro-Magnon App wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:45 pmI agree with boone goon that NO is the most decadent and filthy city in the nation. Yeah, they got the dome and the war museum but it's an awful city. Been there 4 times, once extended stay, and don't wish to go back.
1. Philly
2. Boston
3. Chicago-outside of Navy Pier area
4. NYC
5. Baltimore (would def be #1)
I never felt unsafe in New Orleans.
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My sentiments exactly. I tried to make a similar point in a previous reply, but it seems when I clicked submit it did not post. Anyway your reply more eloquently states the point I was trying to make. It seems that NO can be very polarizing as it relates to visitor experience. You either get it, or you don't.HkyMtneer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:12 pmIt always intrigues me when I see such alternate opinions to those I hold. I'm a pretty big traveler and have been fortunate to visit almost all major American cities and I'd have to say that New Orleans is, hands-down, my favorite mid-sized city in the country and one of my favorites all-around, regardless of size. Where you see filth...I see character and history and gritty-charm. IMO, those traits in say, Charlotte or San Diego or Denver, would constitute "filthy" - in New Orleans it "just works". I'm not even a huge Bourbon Street guy (though I do hit the Quarter every visit)...give me the Garden District, Frenchmen, Bywater, Faubourg, etc., but I find the people and the culture and the atmosphere intoxicating. It might be the humidity, it might be the laissez-faire attitude or the melding/melting of cultures, but to me, decadence is a good word. That all having been said, I wouldn't want to live there, as I feel it would ruin the intrigue for me, the same as people move to the beach for the beach but then rarely find themselves actually out on the beach, but I do love to visit and do my best to get down for *at least* a long weekend every year. If I had to beg the God's to spare one major American city from wrath, and with climate change and rising sea levels that might be a legitimate request, my please-do-spare would definitely be NOLA.Cro-Magnon App wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:45 pmI agree with boone goon that NO is the most decadent and filthy city in the nation. Yeah, they got the dome and the war museum but it's an awful city. Been there 4 times, once extended stay, and don't wish to go back.